I currently studying Business Management cum ICSA course ...
before i enter this course i heard rumours that company secretary are highly demanded job

until now when i do my industrial training in an audit firm
I found out that this job is actually not much use, even my boss tell me that is better for me to get ACCA/CIMA for they provide brighter future ...

The problem now is ... do you think that company secretary is really that important ?? or i have made a wrong choice choosing this ?

ur mistake is to listen to rumors

heres another rumor:

i heard secretary pay damn well.

first, do you know what are the job scopes of "company secretary"? have you mistaken it with the normal kind of secretary to the bosses?

company secretary holds one of the most senior role in a company, and considered as one of the most important person for the company...do check out more about it

in fact i did try to find out ...
most of the definition i got will be this job is important, the duty is hardly can be able to express by words..THE END

however i know that they do works like updating minutes books, updating register of member book, attending meetings , prepare thing needed for the meeting, typing resolution , minutes.
So far i still cant see how can a company secretary be one of the most important person in the company

what you describe is the normal type of secretary to bosses la....

Company Secretary is different

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Company_secretary

Hie monked,

Are you from Tarc college ? Are u currently pursuing diploma ?

Btw, if you've started on company law, you should know that it is stated in the law that every public listed company is required to have 1 or more company secretary. This means that com sec holds a significant position in the company.

Company secretary sometimes is also known as Chief Administration Officer .. Do find out more in the internet. IT IS one of the important officer in an organisation.

Cheers ~~

Ya i m studying in TARC , and in advance diploma
i somehow got kindda blur with the way my industrial training is going on ...
i act more like a normal secretary =)
so when i work i should aim for a job on a public listed company to have more "significant position" ?

Hie Monked,

It is different when you work in an audit firm .
You'll be exposed more if you work in a secretarial firm.

To be honest with you, most of the public listed company out there prefer to hire com sec with experience. Therefore, before you can aim for a job in a public listed company .. you'll have to get experience in secretarial service firms.

Cheers ~

thank for all the answer given
guess i should continue to aim for becoming a c. sec b4 i start judging it =)

secretarial services firms .. wanna try and look for it ^^

Hi if you really want to know the career prospect join Young Maicsa and meet your peers.

http://www.maicsa.org.my/

The question you need to ask yourself if what do you want to do. If you expect a few years after you graduate you will be able to be attending board meetings and giving advices, i think you need to be more realistic.

Most comsec's ( company secretary ) will start off in the secretarial services companies. Basically every company in Malaysia requires a comsec and the person who qualifies to be comsec are mainly Accountants, Lawyers and of course MAICSA members. Smaller companies that dont have one will outsource to these secretarial services companies.

Some of the key skills you may learn will be the requirements for documents submission/filling with regulators, listing requirements, conducting AGM's...etc

Most of the time big companies will have 1 comsec with a few assistant. They will be there to advise on regulatory matters but rarely get involves in business. Its not to easy to go from Secretarial Firms to be one of these comsec as the number of positions are limited.

Conversely if you are an ACCA / CIMA graduate you can be in Auditing, Finance depts where there are more vacancies and positions...( Exec, Asst Manager, Manager and Senior Manager).

http://jobindex.recruit.net/malaysia_ICSA__trends (0.009%)
http://jobindex.recruit.net/malaysia_ACCA__trends ( 0.161%)

Is the qualification highly recognized in other areas.. not really.

I am not saying this is a bad course to go for but be mindfull of what you are getting into.

This post has been edited by VCBlogger: Feb 24 2010, 11:40 PM

industrial training wun let you learn so much actually.....because they treat you like a "visitor"; and therefore, it is really different if you are in the field as a permanent staff

Am wondering in order to become a recognized Company Secretary, what is the path? Do we have to have a degree on Company Secretary or just a short course with examination & registration to Chartered Secretaries Malaysia (MAICSA) will do, also is there any training perior before you can become a Company Secretary for an organization if they want to?

Roughly how long it takes from start till you get reconized?

Is there any good local college/universities that offer quality teaching on this?

Any prerequisites? Part time courses?

I don't think we have those short course....anyway, if anyone knows, just post it here! I wanted to know too

Path, there are a lot

1. Take the ICSA course and get the professional cert and license
2. Complete ACCA course and finish 3 years working experience and get the license
3. Work in Co. Sec firm for 3 years, and interview by SSM then get the license

Correct me if I am wrong

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1534390

From what I know about comsec's job scopes, it's actually quite a routine-work kinda of job, mainly dealing with document work, not much with people and communications, quite boring I would say.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

Any comsec here to share?

people that take diploma in secretaryship can take ICSA or not???

Company Sec had two employment options
1) Work for people
2) Open own firm

For option 1
There are limited offers but many candidates. That is why your boss say no use.

For Option 2
You need to have good contacts to build a clientele base. As such, it takes a long time to establish a decent income out of it. Again that is why your boss say no use.

What most people do with an ICSA is use it as a back door into ACCA. The ACCA offer a lot of exemptions for ICSA holders.

My advise is complete your ICSA then go for ACCA. After a getting enough experience you have the option to open your one stop management service center.

Never look down on ICSA.

By the way, I know a few accountants in public listed companies who had taken this path.

This post has been edited by faceless: Nov 2 2011, 11:39 AM

i'm thinking of embarking a career as company secretary by taking MBA in collaboration MAICSA at UPM..any opinion guys

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secretary is very important, because you are assisting the important decision-maker in the company, in any means....

Company Secretary is an important position in a company. Do not listen to rumors. The pay is good provided that you choose the right company. The Board members and Head of Departments listen to the Company Secretary.