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tech3910
post Apr 5 2010, 12:13 PM

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there r stuff dat worth ague about, & there r stuff dat just not worth ague about.....
& 'ping kam' is jut not worth arguing about.

pls....dis is 2 people getting 2gether, not buying selling daughter....
as if dat the guy marry a girl to be his slave 4ever......

i personnel think dis 'ping kam' tradition shud b skip, hell, it shud b abolish....

if u ask me, i would rather skip 'ping kam' use the $$$ to hav a better, more grand marriage den to giv.

to the girl's parents, pls...u're not selling ur daughter, it's not like u're not gonna see ur daughter ever again.
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post Aug 16 2010, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(leongal @ Aug 16 2010, 10:18 AM)
if you have read my earlier posts which suggested that the tradition was "crap" blink.gif but now i am undergoing it myself blush.gif but, fortunately, i dun have to go thru wat TS has to go thru, my mum was reasonable enough and she asked for RM 3,888 (when my bf asked indirectly); further discussion will be next month....my mum agreed that she doesn't want to put us into debt....

btw, i am not really close to my family...just really wish a very simple thing
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getting married har.....
congratz........
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post Mar 18 2011, 01:19 PM

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IMO, dis whole ping kam tradition shud b abolish.
it's stupid & always brings out problem.....

if less, people say "so stingy? daughter so cheap?"
if more it will burden the guy & will giv the impression, "so ur daughter can value by $ & can be sold....."

IMO, it shud b done as a practice only, not seriously take the money.
eg, guy family giv 'ping kam' 10k, den girl's family 'wui lai' 9999.

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post Apr 26 2011, 07:30 PM

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wen i get married, i wont b following chinese custom, tradition & rules....

if my parents in law ask for ping kam, i'll say no.
i just bare all the wedding fees, & dats dat.

if dey insist wan ping kam, i'll say...."ok, since u put it dis way, meaning u selling ur daughter.....how much u wan? i just hav 1 rule, u'll nvr see her again bcoz u sold her...."
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post Apr 27 2011, 01:49 AM

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QUOTE(xecton @ Apr 27 2011, 01:05 AM)
That is some big mighty talk. Let's hope your future wife will be supportive if it ever come to it.

One thing though, since you plan to bear all the wedding cost, do you intend to keep the angpows from the bride's side?
If not, then that is also the ping kam already.
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i dun intend to get any presents or ang pau from my guest.
but if dey wan giv, dats optional.
who dey wanna giv, dats up to dem.
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post Apr 28 2011, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(xecton @ Apr 28 2011, 09:15 AM)
So you do plan to give pingkam to your in-laws, in the form of tables.
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nah....
i'm not gonna do all this chinese wedding dinner thing....
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post Apr 28 2011, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(xecton @ Apr 28 2011, 02:24 PM)
Even if my friend says its a non-traditional wedding, I would still give angpow.

You know what, I totally understand where you are coming from.
But when the time comes, remember to look at the big picture (which is not giving in to all the in-laws' demands).
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Giving present or ang pau (i prefer giv present) when attenting wedding, it's kinda like good manner.
Not a must, but it looks good.

If ever gog married, it will be "our wedding", as in me & my future wife.
Sorry parents, srg future in laws, it's not ur wedding..
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post Apr 30 2011, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(vandoren @ Apr 30 2011, 11:54 AM)
when i'm reading this, i'm really wondering how old are you?
if you really tell the same words to them, you are like threatening them.
if your future partner's parents insists wish to have it, maybe not a big amount of money,
maybe just as a token of appreciation to thank the parents for taking care of their daughter.
nothing can be perfect, that's why before marry, need to sit down to discuss with both side parents,
have a mutual agreement how to make the wedding.


Added on April 30, 2011, 12:05 pm

maybe you are really rich or earning a lot
i calculated, a standard wedding cost about 25K++ (include wedding photo, wedding ring, buffet at house.. etc)
which haven't include wedding dinner which easily cost another 20K++
so, for normal couple like us, need the guest's angpow to help to cover some of the cost of wedding dinner
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parents sometimes can really b a burden.
if parents hav enough money left for rest of their lives, dey shouldn't burden their children by asking money sommore.
so call taking care of money for children is bullshit, we're not kid any more.
the more money the children hav, the more likely he/she is to success @ career.

if future parents in law insist wan ping kam as token of appreciation, den fine, i'll giv.
but little do they know, i'm gonna minus the ping kam bck out from supposedly monthly allowance they r getting from me.
eg, supposedly, i play to giv in laws 500/m. dey insist ping kam, ok, i'll then quietly drop the allowance to 300 - 400 a month.

i calculated dat my future wedding (if there is any), would cost triple digits......
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post May 2 2011, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(vandoren @ Apr 30 2011, 10:17 PM)
sorry to offense
you are selfish to me
when we were small, will our parents ever think that we are their burden?
when they are old now, they become burden to us?
i understand some folks nagging a lot and sometimes very stubborn, but still, they are our parents.
so do our couple's parents, we should respect them, same as we respect our couple.
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no offence, just a little miss understanding......
wat i mention earlier is dat "it is selfish for parents to request money from children even if dey already hav well enough money". <------ dis is burden
but if parents do need your money to live on, dats different story, dat is part of the responsibility of kids to feed & giv money to parents (including in laws). <-------dis is responsibility, not burden


Added on May 2, 2011, 5:11 pm
QUOTE(uest91 @ May 1 2011, 12:45 AM)
Seriously, rm500 per month ? Buying food, go pasar and pay all the bills enough ka ?
My bro already giving my mom rm500 per month now.

We don't need to pay for the cars and 2 houses but it's still not enough.
My mom go pasar buy pork meat already spent at least Rm50+, what about the fish ? the vegetables ? Rice ?
Go Carefour buy daily use stuff already Rm200+

House got dogs ? Like mine, I got 4, dog food ? Shampoo ?
When we sick go clinic see doctor ?

Rm500 ?? Seriously, damn little la, somemore want to cut it until Rm300-400.
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500 is just a quick example that slip out, there r many factors take into count, such as:

1) do parents has som sorts of income after retired? (such as rent, bond)
2) how many sibling u hav. (of coz, more siblings mean average will b less per person)
3) whether u live wit parents o not. (or ur if dey take care of ur kids)

so conclusion not every family is like urs.


Added on May 2, 2011, 5:14 pm
QUOTE(Yong_5290 @ May 2 2011, 07:08 AM)
Me 7 years back also give 8888 lo...and tot it was 'standard'....dint know got lower 1...zzz
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dis whole "standard" thing is still stupid.....
in the end, it's all about 'air muka' again......"see every1, my daughter is expensive, coz she's pretty, good, & got class"
bragging tools to frens & relatives again....


Added on May 2, 2011, 5:15 pm
QUOTE(uest91 @ May 2 2011, 05:02 PM)
No need smile.gif
My parents not so chinese traditional 1 because last time they were forced to do a lot of things that they don't like so they do not want us to be like that too.
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good for u....
i like the way ur parents think.

This post has been edited by tech3910: May 2 2011, 05:15 PM
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post May 4 2011, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(Gary1981 @ May 4 2011, 08:43 AM)
@tech3910

No offense. IMHO, what is a value for selling a child to a parents would you think?It may be 1k, or 10k or even 100k or even 1million? When a parents let a guy married their daughter, what is their feelings especially for their mum? Will my daughter will be good after married?Do you know the ping kam they got may return back to their daughter or perhaps saved it for their daughter case need it in future?

However, it depends on your capability in term of $$ to give to your parents.
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non taken, i'm very open to advice, idea or criticism.

the bolded part, dis is the excuse most widely use.....
but most of the time, in the end....."$ cannot bring in coffin, y dont i just gamble it b4 i die".

Gary......marriage is not selling or buying daughter.......it is the bonding of 2 individuals.
if it is selling, den meaning after he married the girl & giv ping kam, den he has total control on her & even can restrict her from seeing her families ever again?

this is not the old days any more.
wen the guy married the girl, he al bear the responsibility of taking care of the in laws as well, including financial.
asking for ping kam, is like the story of killing the chicken who lays golden eggs.

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