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TSNaiveLady
post Feb 17 2010, 07:40 PM, updated 16y ago

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I will buy a property soon so I try to compare bank loans as well.
I gave few banks the same information and request them to do a pre-valuation on the price of the property.
However, I am confused by the worth of the property.

Bank A informed it worth RM255K
Bank B: RM250K
Bank C: RM220K
Bank D: RM200K

Can anyone tell me why the big difference?

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post Feb 17 2010, 08:48 PM

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it depends on the valuer that the bank use.
i also think that it depends to how high the risk that the bank can take too on the property.
like alliance bank, always gives lower valuation.. rclxub.gif
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post Feb 18 2010, 02:50 AM

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cimb confirm giv highest value.. different valuation panel got differnent resources and diff way the evaluate..
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post Feb 18 2010, 12:46 PM

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This is only pre-value.

Later on, most banks would also require proper evaluation by a certified valuer. (cost borne by you)

And these valuer, what they'd do is visit the property, check around, then try to find 3 previous transactions of the same area, then get the average value. Prepare a report to the bank. Easy money btw.

If they can't find previous transactions, they'd just adjust the value to your actual loan value. And they're PROFESSIONAL, what an irony.........
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post Feb 18 2010, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(scorgio @ Feb 18 2010, 12:46 PM)
This is only pre-value.

Later on, most banks would also require proper evaluation by a certified valuer. (cost borne by you)

And these valuer, what they'd do is visit the property, check around, then try to find 3 previous transactions of the same area, then get the average value. Prepare a report to the bank. Easy money btw.

If they can't find previous transactions, they'd just adjust the value to your actual loan value. And they're PROFESSIONAL, what an irony.........
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agree. that what they'd been doing thus far. comparing the transactions around the area. I suggest; you do that first he3 biggrin.gif so you can appreciate what they are looking for. tongue.gif


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post Feb 18 2010, 06:34 PM

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Hmm...let's say the pre-valuer informed it worth RM255K, so i proceed to buy the property at RM250K.
Thus, I will loan RM225K.

During proper evaluation, let's say the valuer informed it only worth RM220K. So how ar?
Can I still be able to loan up to RM225K?
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post Feb 18 2010, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(NaiveLady @ Feb 18 2010, 06:34 PM)
Hmm...let's say the pre-valuer informed it worth RM255K, so i proceed to buy the property at RM250K.
Thus, I will loan RM225K.

During proper evaluation, let's say the valuer informed it only worth RM220K. So how ar?
Can I still be able to loan up to RM225K?
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If the bank say it worth less than what your seller quoted price then the differences you will have to cover by your own cash, they will only loan your 90% from the lesser value and not the one quoted by your seller.
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post Feb 19 2010, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(Tohsan @ Feb 18 2010, 08:22 PM)
If the bank say it worth less than what your seller quoted price then the differences you will have to cover by your own cash, they will only loan your 90% from the lesser value and not the one quoted by your seller.
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Most bank are axxhole these days. During my purchasing the most they give is only 80-85%. Only CIMB offer me 90%.
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post Feb 19 2010, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(edyek @ Feb 19 2010, 09:31 AM)
Most bank are axxhole these days. During my purchasing the most they give is only 80-85%. Only CIMB offer me 90%.
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cool down boss i know they are laugh.gif , tats why u hv the right to choose,tats the beauty of it! smile.gif
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post Feb 19 2010, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(Tohsan @ Feb 18 2010, 08:22 PM)
If the bank say it worth less than what your seller quoted price then the differences you will have to cover by your own cash, they will only loan your 90% from the lesser value and not the one quoted by your seller.
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Went to another bank, Bank M (not CIMB, CIMB gives me so-so, like other banks), and after informing Bank M, the pre-valuation prices from other banks, I told him, "if you can come up with higher pre-valuation price than those banks, I'll consider taking up loan with you."

After some days, Bank M did come up with higher pre-valuation price than the rest. Yet of course, the trick is that, Bank M's interest is a little bit higher than other banks. But then, the choices are yours to make.

Remember, the differentials that you have to pay is not just "the one quoted by your seller" - "pre-valuations price". It's "the one quoted by your seller" - "90% of pre-valuations price", like Tohsan said.

This post has been edited by abu_adi: Feb 19 2010, 12:02 PM
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post Feb 19 2010, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(abu_adi @ Feb 19 2010, 11:56 AM)
Went to another bank, Bank M (not CIMB, CIMB gives me so-so, like other banks), and after informing Bank M, the pre-valuation prices from other banks, I told him, "if you can come up with higher pre-valuation price than those banks, I'll consider taking up loan with you."

After some days, Bank M did come up with higher pre-valuation price than the rest. Yet of course, the trick is that, Bank M's interest is a little bit higher than other banks. But then, the choices are yours to make.

Remember, the differentials that you have to pay is not just "the one quoted by your seller" - "pre-valuations price". It's "the one quoted by your seller" - "90% of pre-valuations price", like Tohsan said. Plus, the deposit 10% too.
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sometime its up to the individual officer discretion to approve the amount, it get a bit vague sometime what trigger them to approve the loan. rclxub.gif
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post Feb 19 2010, 02:29 PM

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post Feb 21 2010, 01:27 AM

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QUOTE(NaiveLady @ Feb 18 2010, 06:34 PM)
Hmm...let's say the pre-valuer informed it worth RM255K, so i proceed to buy the property at RM250K.
Thus, I will loan RM225K.

During proper evaluation, let's say the valuer informed it only worth RM220K. So how ar?
Can I still be able to loan up to RM225K?
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which is why you should during pre-valuation, record down the valuer name and the given price. When shits like this happens..you can point back to who gave the valuation. Usually during pre-valuation is always lower than the actual valuation (from those experienced ones lah) in order to save their @$$

plus if valuation report comes out at 220K, means it's 90% of the valuation price, not 90% of the purchased price. wink.gif
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post Feb 21 2010, 02:14 AM

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QUOTE(Tohsan @ Feb 19 2010, 12:03 PM)
sometime its up to the individual officer discretion to approve the amount, it get a bit vague sometime what trigger them to approve the loan.  rclxub.gif
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Nowadays, all loan application must be refer to the HQ or regional hub for approval.
Not like the old days, when the branch manager had a great say.
However, the manager or the officer in-charge's remark/recommendation sometime does affect the end result.
Having family members or relatives as Priority Banking member can also have a certain influence.
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post Feb 21 2010, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(scorgio @ Feb 21 2010, 02:14 AM)
Nowadays, all loan application must be refer to the HQ or regional hub for approval.
Not like the old days, when the branch manager had a great say.
However, the manager or the officer in-charge's remark/recommendation sometime does affect the end result.
Having family members or relatives as Priority Banking member can also have a certain influence.
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agree scorgio biggrin.gif

 

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