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brotan
post Feb 15 2010, 11:10 PM


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Hi all,

I know plaster ceiling looks nice but beside nice, are there any practical usage of it ??

Is it used to conceal some wirings ?

Also is the top of the plaster ceiling hollow ? Normally is it the whole ceiling is covered or only a portion of it ?
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post Feb 16 2010, 02:29 PM


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usually depends on how much ur budget la, if budget big then may cover the whole ceiling. but make sure your house have a tall ceiling or else your house will look small with plaster ceiling.

nice is main reason but also with plaster ceiling, you can put those light which can be fitted into the ceiling. also can conceal some piping in some house.
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post Feb 16 2010, 03:01 PM


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QUOTE(AiRseaL @ Feb 16 2010, 02:29 PM)
usually depends on how much ur budget la, if budget big then may cover the whole ceiling. but make sure your house have a tall ceiling or else your house will look small with plaster ceiling.

nice is main reason but also with plaster ceiling, you can put those light which can be fitted into the ceiling. also can conceal some piping in some house.
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bro,

what is minimum height to have a nice plaster ceiling ?
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post Feb 16 2010, 06:55 PM


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QUOTE(brotan @ Feb 16 2010, 03:01 PM)
bro,

what is minimum height to have a nice plaster ceiling ?
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Most double storey house ceiling height will be around 10 feets. Nice or not nice plaster ceiling depend on workmanship. smile.gif
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QUOTE(brotan @ Feb 16 2010, 03:01 PM)
bro,

what is minimum height to have a nice plaster ceiling ?
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depends on what kinda plaster ceilling u r doing, average u need to spare about 1 ft for plaster ceilling, if ur ceilling height is 9ft like some of the condo, u only get 8ft ceilling after doing plaster ceilling. Make cornies is better in this case. anyhow, L box will help to save some heights.
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post Feb 17 2010, 09:41 AM


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we are talking about a house arent we? then you should replace the old asbestos ceiling since asbestos fibres can cause cancer. get them professionally removed without the guys braking them and releasing fibres into your house. then redo the ceiling (same hight and all as before or even raise it if you want to) with plaster ceiling. seal is better (less dust) and you can insulate you house either with thicker ceiling or fibre mats or cellulose.
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QUOTE(brotan @ Feb 16 2010, 03:01 PM)
bro,

what is minimum height to have a nice plaster ceiling ?
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<8ft = Too low.
8-10ft = Acceptable for condo/apartment. Not for landed residential units.
11-14ft = Comfortable, aircon ventilation can easily ventilates. 1.0-1.5hp A/C is sufficient.
>14ft = Comfortabe, more space but needs more ventilation. A/C need to be more than 1.5hp.
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post Feb 17 2010, 02:51 PM


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QUOTE(PJusa @ Feb 17 2010, 09:41 AM)
we are talking about a house arent we? then you should replace the old asbestos ceiling since asbestos fibres can cause cancer. get them professionally removed without the guys braking them and releasing fibres into your house. then redo the ceiling (same hight and all as before or even raise it if you want to) with plaster ceiling. seal is better (less dust) and you can insulate you house either with thicker ceiling or fibre mats or cellulose.
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bro,

how to know if the ceiling is using old asbestos or not ?
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post Feb 17 2010, 03:11 PM


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if it doesnt have plaster ceiling but the square plates with wooden lining it's most likely asbestos. is this the house in SS3? if so the it's most likely asbestos unless previous owner removed it already. i am not too far from SS3 and my house (build in the 50s) sure had it.

i think the aircon advise is too general. a/c needs will require on your insulation level, wether or not got fans (and where) and the room area. it's not just derived by ceiling height. i would want the ceiling heigh enough to but a ceiling fan in it and be able to walk under it without fearing that i might loose my head wink.gif
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post Feb 17 2010, 03:55 PM


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QUOTE(PJusa @ Feb 17 2010, 03:11 PM)
if it doesnt have plaster ceiling but the square plates with wooden lining it's most likely asbestos. is this the house in SS3? if so the it's most likely asbestos unless previous owner removed it already. i am not too far from SS3 and my house (build in the 50s) sure had it.

i think the aircon advise is too general. a/c needs will require on your insulation level, wether or not got fans (and where) and the room area. it's not just derived by ceiling height. i would want the ceiling heigh enough to but a ceiling fan in it and be able to walk under it without fearing that i might loose my head wink.gif
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yup, this is SS3 area

so what is the price /unit for removal and replacing the ceiling ?
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post Feb 17 2010, 05:35 PM


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Hi All,

I bought a 2nd hand house with the asbestos ceiling boards. I am planning to change them to plaster ceilings.

Just wondering if anyone can give me some suggestions:
1) maintain the asbestos boards but add plaster ceiling boards beneath it. This is for extra insulation by the existing asbestos board (maybe more cooling?) and also as 2nd layer protection from leaking roof.
2) or just remove existing asbestos and replace entirely with new plaster ceiling.

Which one is better?

Regards,
Lim

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post Feb 18 2010, 10:32 AM


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asbestos is a health hazard IF fibres get loose. I'd get it professionally removed if you do renovation. then install the plaster ceiling (thicker type) + insulate it. i have had better experience with cellulose than with stone fibre mats.
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post Feb 18 2010, 11:29 AM


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QUOTE(PJusa @ Feb 18 2010, 10:32 AM)
asbestos is a health hazard IF fibres get loose. I'd get it professionally removed if you do renovation. then install the plaster ceiling (thicker type) + insulate it. i have had better experience with cellulose than with stone fibre mats.
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bro,

i have checked my target unit height is only 9.5 feet.

you think can adjust roof height to be higher when changing to ceiling to the one you mention ?
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post Feb 19 2010, 10:17 AM


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prefer not to install plaster ceiling, unless to cover pipings, etc. nicer to have houses with higher roofs. think its older ppl's taste to install plaster ceilings like my father n father in law. lol


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QUOTE(zoomckng @ Feb 19 2010, 10:17 AM)
prefer not to install plaster ceiling, unless to cover pipings, etc. nicer to have houses with higher roofs. think its older ppl's taste to install plaster ceilings like my father n father in law. lol
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plaster ceiling look nicer wor laugh.gif
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QUOTE(zoomckng @ Feb 19 2010, 11:17 AM)
prefer not to install plaster ceiling, unless to cover pipings, etc. nicer to have houses with higher roofs. think its older ppl's taste to install plaster ceilings like my father n father in law. lol
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Other then plaster ceiling and the asbestos ceiling given by developer , what other type of ceiling suitable?
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QUOTE(PJusa @ Feb 17 2010, 09:41 AM)
we are talking about a house arent we? then you should replace the old asbestos ceiling since asbestos fibres can cause cancer. get them professionally removed without the guys braking them and releasing fibres into your house. then redo the ceiling (same hight and all as before or even raise it if you want to) with plaster ceiling. seal is better (less dust) and you can insulate you house either with thicker ceiling or fibre mats or cellulose.
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even raise it shocking.gif thats great..........but would they cost more sweat.gif i planning to do plaster to but only for whole living + dining + kitchen...not planning to do my bedrooms yet.......and to make it rise higher would be great biggrin.gif my house is just a single story unit.... smile.gif
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post Apr 30 2010, 12:19 PM


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just got my room done with plaster ceiling. looks nicer and grand compare to the design it used to be cause my house is a old design house. will post some photo to share later.
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QUOTE(brotan @ Feb 15 2010, 11:10 PM)
Hi all,

I know plaster ceiling looks nice but beside nice, are there any practical usage of it ??

Is it used to conceal some wirings ?

Also is the top of the plaster ceiling hollow ? Normally is it the whole ceiling is covered or only a portion of it ?
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brotan,

Looks nice.

Waste money..

Make your house HOTTER because the ceiling is LOWERED.

Waste more money because you need air-con to stay inside the house.

Dreamer
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post Apr 30 2010, 04:33 PM


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can be fengshui also.
cannot got uneven/tiang or whatever at ceilling, so do plaster ceiling.
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QUOTE(chiehlim @ Feb 17 2010, 05:35 PM)
Hi All,

I bought a 2nd hand house with the asbestos ceiling boards. I am planning to change them to plaster ceilings.

Just wondering if anyone can give me some suggestions:
1) maintain the asbestos boards but add plaster ceiling boards beneath it. This is for extra insulation by the existing asbestos board (maybe more cooling?) and also as 2nd layer protection from leaking roof.
2) or just remove existing asbestos and replace entirely with new plaster ceiling.

Which one is better?

Regards,
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I am also wondering about this. Have been getting 2different views ; to remove the old asbestos or not. My contractor says better not, as can act as additional layer in case has leakage from above.
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QUOTE(hmckl @ May 10 2010, 03:48 PM)
I am also wondering about this. Have been getting 2different views ; to remove the old asbestos or not. My contractor says better not, as can act as additional layer in case has leakage from above.
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depends on the height of the wall
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post May 18 2010, 12:57 PM


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i'd rather make sure the roof doesnt leak. also if got leakage and asbestos does break you get cancer-causing fibres in the house. i would not want that!
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hi. my contractor is quoting plaster ceiling for RM3.50 psf run. Plain plaster ceiling, incl mat & labour. Is this price reasonable? Like most of you, I also have a layer of existing abestos, but am not sure if I should remove it. What is the verdict? smile.gif
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rm3.50/ sqft. shocking.gif ..expensive lor...u can get better deal outside there
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post May 20 2010, 04:13 PM


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QUOTE(kathlynn @ May 20 2010, 02:49 PM)
hi. my contractor is quoting plaster ceiling for RM3.50 psf run. Plain plaster ceiling, incl mat & labour. Is this price reasonable? Like most of you, I also have a layer of existing abestos, but am not sure if I should remove it. What is the verdict? smile.gif
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post May 20 2010, 04:24 PM


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what should be a reasonable price then? bcoz hes the cheapest among all contractors ive gotten quote from.
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post May 20 2010, 04:54 PM


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QUOTE(kathlynn @ May 20 2010, 04:24 PM)
what should be a reasonable price then? bcoz hes the cheapest among all contractors ive gotten quote from.
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less than 2.50
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post May 20 2010, 05:18 PM


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incl cutting holes & painting & everythin else?
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not including cutting holes & painting price should be around RM2.30 - RM2.80

Depends on ur luck whether u can get a good deal
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post May 20 2010, 09:07 PM


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QUOTE(IGax2000 @ May 20 2010, 07:19 PM)
not including cutting holes & painting price should be around RM2.30 - RM2.80

Depends on ur luck whether u can get a good deal
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what i meant to say is my 3.50 includes cutting holes & painting. is that ok?
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post May 22 2010, 03:16 AM


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QUOTE(kathlynn @ May 20 2010, 09:07 PM)
what i meant to say is my 3.50 includes cutting holes & painting. is that ok?
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my price is rm 2.60. including everything. painting is included but we using martex only

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post May 24 2010, 11:15 AM


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QUOTE(nuclearbom @ May 22 2010, 03:16 AM)
my price is rm 2.60. including everything. painting is included but we using martex only
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oh okay. noted. i check with another contractor, and he said that the reason why his chargin higher (even higher thatn RM3.50psf) is because my hse is a 1 1/2 story. Me living room ceiling is slanting from 2nd story all the way down to 1st, hence, slightly more higher than norm rate.

Anyhows, I have check with Wai Teong (who's contact ive gotten from this forum) who has quoted rm2.10 psf (excl painting and holes). I was wonderin if anyone has engaged him in his plaster ceiling before? how is his workmanship?
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post Sep 6 2010, 02:34 PM


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plaster ceiling completed

looks nice but the workers a bit lazy

but at least the boss is responsible. will touch up for any problems left behind by those lazy workers

price reasonable
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QUOTE(brotan @ Sep 6 2010, 02:34 PM)
plaster ceiling completed

looks nice but the workers a bit lazy

but at least the boss is responsible. will touch up for any problems left behind by those lazy workers

price reasonable
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Dear all,

i'm ceiling contractor, call me 0146289888 i can quote the BEST price for you all.
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QUOTE(brotan @ Sep 6 2010, 02:34 PM)
plaster ceiling completed

looks nice but the workers a bit lazy

but at least the boss is responsible. will touch up for any problems left behind by those lazy workers

price reasonable
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hey boss,

thks for the support, hope u satisfied of the work done...thk u
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QUOTE(brotan @ Sep 6 2010, 02:34 PM)
plaster ceiling completed

looks nice but the workers a bit lazy

but at least the boss is responsible. will touch up for any problems left behind by those lazy workers

price reasonable
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can share the photo?
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