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post Feb 15 2010, 09:50 AM

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guys,

I want to ask you about indoor shooting with flash. Look at this picture (credit to saiful nang).

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My question is, how do I get the whole picture is equally expose (at least 'see-able' background) like picture above? Most of my indoor shooting will get dark background but object is correct exposure. How do I get both of them are equally same exposure?

I assume use high ISO and slower shutter would help, am I right? Any other tips?
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post Feb 15 2010, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(ieR @ Feb 15 2010, 11:33 AM)
there are very technical explaination if u would like to listen.

standard by flash, the min shutter u will get is 1/60. let say the background is 2 stop under at 1/60 F5.6 iso400. (kitlens + A300 (iso400limit))

your subject will always lit up to 0ev metering (properly expose) by the flash. now, knowing all of above setting, the question is, how to you make the background expose the same?(as the subject?)

answer is simple, increase 2stop of exposure, but how?

1. Shutter Speed, by slowing down the shutter, u will have more light gain, 2 stop is by decreasing ur speed to1/15 from 1/60, which u might not wan to use it, as it causes blur from handshake if u are zooming at 100mm.

2. Sensitivity of ISO, by pumping to iso1600 from iso400 (that's 2 stop) u'll gain exactly what u need, but problem is, some of us are using older model where, iso400 is as far as they willing to go.

3. Aperture (Ksano you're right), increase the aperture by 2 stop, F5.6 to F2.8, u get more light travel into the lens/sensor, hence u will get brighter background, but as well as bokeh, if bokeh is what u wanted, then its okay, if it is not.... another story.

4. and u can mix 1 and 2 and 3 together, say shutterspeed at 1/40, iso800, at F5, u still gain 2 stop. smile.gif that is why, Pro use manual, using each of the setting above to compensate of each weaknesses.
tamron? dont think will sell, unless sigma's 17-70 becomes F2.8 and it's as sharp as tamron. tongue.gif

slow sync flash = slow shutter. its just a auto-mode used to overwrite the pre program of shutter in P/A mode.
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Wah, very details explaination .. wink.gif .. i got it bro .. wink.gif .. thanks thanks alot .. appreciate it .. wink.gif ..
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post Feb 16 2010, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(Ahmike @ Feb 16 2010, 12:52 PM)
Ahhh long time didnt post here..

let me help you bit... to just start learning try this.

find a dark room or outdoor

1. get a light pen.
2. Set your camera to the "M" mode. And set your camera maybe to begin capturing after 2 or 10 sec second timer (for you to run to the place)
3. Set your shutter to to Bulb mode or anything longer than 2-30 seconds (depending what you want to draw or how long).
4. Set your focus to infinity to avoid out of focus.
5. Hit on your shutter button and proceed to the place you want to draw.
6. Then let your imagination to try diff things and try and error the timing
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how to set the focus to infinity? in mode bulb mode, do we need to press shutter (a click) to open and and another click to close shutter? Sorry, I dont have my camera here to test .. biggrin.gif ..
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post Feb 17 2010, 07:37 PM

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QUOTE(albnok @ Feb 17 2010, 07:12 PM)
Seng_Kiat: Your A700 comes with a remote.

Set camera to M, shutter speed to BULB, Drive to Remote. Press the RMT-DSLR1's shutter button to open shutter, press again to close.
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thanks albnok but for some reasons, I am not sure why my remote is not working at all. sad.gif. I have change the drive setting to remote but it is still not working.

Might be battery problem? I seldom use it and it is less than 10 months ..
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post Feb 19 2010, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(aqiera @ Feb 18 2010, 07:20 AM)
i think i will start spamming pictures over here....  biggrin.gif

#1
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ps: ok i better run now.... tongue.gif
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wowwww .. these are amazing picture man .. i like it .. what lens r u using?


Added on February 19, 2010, 3:19 pm
QUOTE(albnok @ Feb 18 2010, 10:27 AM)
Seng_Kiat: Have you remembered to remove the plastic tab that blocks the battery from its contacts? Are you blocking the IR sensor on the camera grip?

What happened to mine though, is that I left the remote in the bag and it got pressed all the time in the bag, so the battery died. However it definitely worked before.
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Hurmmm .. It was working before. No plastic, etc. I might ter-press the button when leave it in the bag.

Where can I find the battery? how much does it normally cost?


Added on February 19, 2010, 4:40 pmguys,

do we have any other option for fish eye lens other than sony and samyang?

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post Feb 21 2010, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(weixuan @ Feb 21 2010, 09:20 AM)
this is interesting:

UWA for aps-c : 8-16
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any ETA and expected price? ..

I am looking for UWA or FE.. yet to decide between 2. ;(.
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post Feb 23 2010, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(noprob @ Feb 23 2010, 12:05 PM)
just got raynox too , am enjoying it..
uwa rm1.9-2.2k
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want to sell your UWA bro? biggrin.gif
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post Feb 25 2010, 05:38 AM

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Hi guys,

I need you guys comments on these:

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any C&C are really appreciated.

Thank you.
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post Feb 25 2010, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(Sheep319 @ Feb 25 2010, 10:10 AM)
poor man fisheye laugh.gif
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yo macha! .. u still remember me? .. haha .. tongue.gif ..

dont know you are an alpha user .. biggrin.gif ..

***ops off topic .. biggrin.gif
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post Feb 25 2010, 12:50 PM

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Thanks achew and hazril for the comments. I really appreciate it. smile.gif. I just wanted to try new things in photography .. wink.gif .. these are other 2 I just finish .. I hope it is better .. and it could be great help if you guys give comments for improvement .. smile.gif.

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Thank you.
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post Feb 25 2010, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(hazril @ Feb 25 2010, 12:54 PM)
in my opinion for the first pic if the ray is a tad less brighter would be better...second pics just suits me...i loike...much better than the previous one...maybe u can try to replicate as close as possible to a real ray....if i didnt look properly for the 1st pic i tot i was a real ray... biggrin.gif


Added on February 25, 2010, 12:55 pmowh ya one more thing....ur PP kantoi d...see ur model body outline on second pic... tongue.gif
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hey thanks bro .

hahah .. tongue.gif .. i know .. tongue.gif .. i just do for fun .. biggrin.gif .. this is my trial to get the feel of it .. biggrin.gif .. just try and error .. wink.gif .. .. I will be more careful when final release (if success) .. haha .. tongue.gif
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post Feb 26 2010, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(eddybeh @ Feb 25 2010, 11:25 PM)
guys wanna ask SONY 11-18 or sigma 10-20 better? keke~~
wat about samyang 14mm, the 1 cjlai selling??  brows.gif
saw another thing. minolta 50mm f1.7 and sony 50mm f1.4. wat different do they have other than their age? the price different is so big~~
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minolta is old lens while sony is newer ..
sony has aperture of 1.4 which is bigger whole while minolta has smaller one, 1.7.
the bigger the whole, the more loose it will be .. hahaha .. tongue.gif ..
bigger whole allows more light to go thru the lens .. thus it is good for indoor or low light photography ..
aperture also plays a part in producing bokeh ..

that all I can explain to u at the moment .. wink.gif
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post Feb 26 2010, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(Gouki @ Feb 26 2010, 04:19 PM)
i tot kitlens normally from f3.5~5.6? unsure.gif
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maybe he was zooming to the max then aperture becaume 5.6 ..
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post Feb 26 2010, 08:53 PM

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Street TT!

There is the SWPA Introduction To Travel & Street Photography Talk by Szetoo Weiwen at Galeri Petronas, KLCC this Sunday 28th February 2010. So we'll have a lunch TT before the talk, and after the talk we'll go street shooting as we should be fresh and inspired by the talk!

What: Lunch TT, Street Photography Talk, Street Shooting Session
Where: Center food court KLCC then Galeri Petronas KLCC
When: 12 noon Sunday 28th February 2010
How Much: Free!
Who:

Itinerary:

12noon-2pm: Lunchtime TT at center food court in KLCC. The one below TGV Cinemas.
2pm-4pm: Street Photography Talk
4pm-4:30pm: See the SWPA (Sony World Photography Awards) Exhibition (if you haven't).
4:30pm onwards: Street shoot!

I would rather we TT first, go for talk, get inspired, then street shoot, instead of street shoot (without the knowledge from the talk), go for talk, then TT, then the talk evaporates.

Where will we street shoot? I have two route ideas:

A) KLCC to Mandarin Oriental to Wisma UOA to Pavilion.
B) KLCC to Zouk to Dang Wangi LRT (and maybe the back of St. John's Institution, if you want some cool vines).

Put your preferred route in the list also!

1. albnok (bringing flash gels, Opteka 85mm F1.4, Peleng 8mm F3.5 circular fisheye and Vivitar 24mm F2.0)
2. zicron (route A)
3. finejava
4. Mo0 (80%)
5. RaplaJingga
6. strangex2
7. noprob (50%)
8. destfull
9. jengjeng
10. signither
11. dingenius3
12. syukri
13. lwliam (will be joining for lunch right until after talk then need to chiao d)
14. snake4168 (any route will do)
15. Hin Leng
16. braindead_fr3ak
17. braindead_fr3ak's girlfriend
18. chronic_gam3r
19. Seng_kiat
20. Seng_Kiat's friend

To know where we'll be, contact me at:


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post Mar 15 2010, 03:12 PM

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guys,

why my a700's hot shoe seems to be loose? sometime the body does not detect the flash even I clean the connectors. sad.gif.
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post Mar 17 2010, 09:05 AM

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QUOTE(lwliam @ Mar 17 2010, 02:50 AM)
SkyBlue99, u 'Limbangian'? tongue.gif *what a word*

yea, opposite the 'largest' hotel in limbang, on the pier. behind is the market

this was the view directly behind me that time
[img]http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/3782/21dec20092438.jpg[/img

280mm, 1/500s, f/6.3, ISO 100 (only resized and soft vignetting applied)

[img]http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/921/21dec20092408.jpg[/im
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hey bro ..

how u pp the 1st picture? damn cun .. i like it so much ..

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