Been looking around for some HDTVs and I came across this TV. Apparently it's CNET Aus' Editor's Choice for Jan 2010. Anyone seen this TV? What's the price? There's not much discussion about Philips TVs so let's start one beginning with this TV.

This post has been edited by DemonTweakZ: Feb 12 2010, 03:38 PM

Ya, this is a very nice TV as it's black level is blacker than Pioneer Kuro with the comparison test between these 2. I'm afraid it is quite pricey being their flagship model

Interesting. Can u send me the link from the comparison test?

When you mean quite pricey, what range are you talking about?

i think u read wrongly. so far no plasma can beat kuro black level let alone lcd but this philip got a very good black level. it's also recommended by what hifi.

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Added on February 12, 2010, 4:12 pmas quoted by what hifi....

"As for the biggest selling point of all – contrast performance – it’s just as fabulous as you’d hope it would be, the Philips generating pictures that get close to the dramatic depth and punch of Pioneer’s remarkable (and now unavailable) Kuro plasmas."

close....but no cigar

This post has been edited by arremie: Feb 12 2010, 04:12 PM

I don't think I read wrongly as they have all the images captured for the comparison. Last time when I google around to survey on the LCD TV and happened to find a link to a website (could not recall whether it is a forum), someone has done the comparison between these 2. The way they tested the black level is switch on the tv without any signal under a very dark environment and the image they captured clearly show that it is blacker than Kuro. Will try to relocate that link

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Added on February 12, 2010, 4:23 pmI saw Harvey Norman selling at 12-13K in Dec last year for this size

This post has been edited by darenlks: Feb 12 2010, 04:23 PM

Ah, if it is without any signal the MLL of the Kuro is pretty low. However, I can see how this is so. The local dimming LEDs will shut off when it detects no signal. However, if there is even a little content, the LEDs will turn on. So with any content (even very little) the black levels will increase quite a bit.

In fact, all local dimming LEDs will be absolute black with no signal as the LEDs will turn off completely. However, on actual content, it is not so.

I guess the Philips like all LED backlit sets with local dimming are coming close, but it will be difficult, unless there is 1:1 pixel to LED ratio.

Hmmm that's quite expensive but then again, thats the price range for local-dimming sets rite?
Does anyone here carry this model? Maybe can get cheaper. Or DesaHT?

for that price i rather get krp-500a

1:1 ratio will definitely sky rocket the price. BTw, what's the current pixel to LED ratio?

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Added on February 12, 2010, 4:38 pmHow about the 40" one? Do you happen to know?

This post has been edited by DemonTweakZ: Feb 12 2010, 04:38 PM

Maybe you are right in that sense. If it could come close to Kuro's black level coupled with cheaper price tag, then it would be more appealing to the majority in the market to own a more affordable and superb set of tv.

101% fully agree

RCP for 40" is RM 9999 FOC Blu-Ray Player..
Very good TV but for the price i think most ppl going for larger screen size..

Not cheap also, almost 10K

http://www.cresdo.com/tvsaudioskaraoke/lcd...&page=1&sort=3d

No dude, I'd go for this one. Energy saving leh.

true lcd consume less power but i was referring to price/pq

Care for the environment!

Anyone seen this TV recently? I went to some HN outlets and I didn't see it lar. Any online sellers or LYN members carrying this?

Last time I've seen it in HN at Pavillion and Ikano Power Center. You may try the link I posted earlier for the online seller.

If this LCD pictures can rival those of the plasma,I will get the LCD as the LCD will not have to worry about image retention and burn-in especially with astra beyond now where most channel have stupid logo running. Also consume less power.

i agree with u but if i do get plasma i will only use it for movies. tv n astro will hook up to my lcd

I saw the link already. But I want to see the TV in person. So far no luck. Maybe tomorrow will get the chance!

The review for this panel is out.. Its pretty good that there are 224 clusters of LEDs for local dimming compared to the normal 130+ from competitors.

Trusted Reviews Philips 9704 Review

Edit : I'm not a big fan of how JohnArcher reviews the displays but this is the only one around for now. Also for those not familiar he is a real fan of Philips.

This post has been edited by anfieldude: Feb 17 2010, 09:36 AM

Yeah, read that review. Seems that TR has loads of Philips TVs and they usually get quite high scores.

I personally saw Philips panel in Harvey Norman yesterday, I think they are quite impressive and easily beat series 6 and 7 of Samsung's panel.

Just that the price tag is a bit step, their LED LCD cost RM1k more than samsung's counterpart

Isn't it supposed to rival the Series 8 since they're both local dimming? BTW, which HN you went to?

The Curve
series 8 aint worth the purchase, very expensive..

The 200hz is via software interpolation? haven't heard of any source with that kind of refresh rate..

Planning to visit MV branch if have the time

This post has been edited by Sky.Live: Feb 17 2010, 10:55 AM

But if we are spending so much money, would it be better to spend on something with more peace of mind.

It's not true 200hz but a combination of true 100hz + scanning backlight (switching on and off the backlight to create the black frame) to simulate the 200hz effect. Similar to Toshiba ZV series but I found it still not as good as those true 200Hz LCD tv but it's a cheaper way to produce the 200hz. Not sure whether Philips will do a better job on this.

eh? the LED series 8 is local dimming? i thot it's still edge lighting (as it's as slim as the series 6 & 7)... dun think edge lighting can have local dimming? yes?

there's no peace of mind in ht world. always something to buy/upgrade

That is why I have said before...this are the people who never really enjoy what they are suppose to...the movies and the music. The enjoyed the hardware instead.

For me, I don't go looking for minute differences or pause a screen for comparison. I don't do A/B switch just to look for the difference. I enjoy what I have and so far so good.

I dont agree with your statement, those who keep changing their hardware are those who have enjoy what they have yesterday n need to try what to have for tomorrow but for u, u only enjoy what u have for yesterday but not tomorrow, in other words people like to try out newer gadget after they have enjoy what they have is already old, but of course u must have the $$$$

u definitely don't know my friend ronald

i don't believe that newer hardware are significantly better than the older generation hardware. For instance, a power amp is a power amp...a newer model might have more features but not necessarily better sound. The same can be said about speakers too....

Manufacturers keep pumping out new hardware with minor features upgrade so that they can empty your pockets....some features you might never or hardly use. What I have might be yesterday product but it more than stand up against many of the product out there today.

This post has been edited by lightning69: Feb 18 2010, 05:42 PM

It's one of the most expensive TV out there, pricing @ 6999 for a 40".
Dont you think it's a bit expensive?

I think it is the best looking LED set around right now..
Anyone saw anyplace selling cheaper?

That is not to bad. 2 years ago, a 40" normal LCD cost more than that. Now for the same price, you get LED with local dimming.

I thought the 40in was around ~10K and the 46in ~13K?

That was 2 years 5 months, 7 days, 35 minutes ago.

http://www.cresdo.com/tvsaudioskaraoke/lcd...&page=1&sort=3d

Sorry I was just following this link on the Philips 9704 pricing. I might be wrong.

why not consider the cheaper alternative, 42pfl9664? yeah, you might be pissed off with the ccfl, but that's about it, the whole specs sheet is the same except that it runs on ccfl. it's rsp is 2k cheaper. you have got to view the unit for urself cuz the pq is great. i've been looking around for a hdtv for quite some time, and evaluated some of the true and not-so-true 200hz motion-enhancer and i must say philips is doing very good with this 9000 series. the crappiest must be the lg. sony and samsung is pretty close but the artifacts are however slightly more obvious. i suppose this might have something to do with the response time which is 1ms, which the closest i know is lg (2ms); as for sony & samsung, not quite sure what's their response time is for their premium 200hz tvs

this 9000 LED compare to other Philips LED TV this is using Direct LED, other Philips LED is using Edge LED, what is the difference?

5000 series is now LED

any 1 know hw much? is 5000 series led tv?

40PFL-5605 $3,999 with free BD player @ http://www.tbm.com.my/



This post has been edited by SiriuslyCold: May 28 2010, 01:06 PM

Guys, we'll be giving out some special deals at the My Philips My Life Expo on 11-13 June 2010. Also an opportunity to win a TV for FREE. Pls join us on our FB page for updates to the event.

got discount on TVs?

Will the 9704 series be on view?

Yup, there will be discounts for TVs during these periods. There will also be Happy Hour Specials when prices take a serious tumble. Follow us on our Twitter and Facebook to get updates on these Happy Hour periods.



Yes, we'll be displaying the 9704 there along with our other new stuff. If you're an audiophile, you might also be interested in our "Obsessed With Sound" Xperience display.

Saw the low end 40" Philips LED LCD TV 40PFL-5605 priced at RM3399 in the latest Courts catalogue. It came with 'free' Philips HTS-3366 home theater and Philips DVP-3550K DVD player if take up Courts Max Plus 60 installment plan. Not a too bad price for a low end LED LCD TV right?

i think is model of 42PFL3605 (full hd lcd tv) ....coz it's impossible LED-lcd tv can get the price like Rm33xx with free h.theatre worth Rm9xx ....

Check out the latest Courts catalogue... Terms and Conditions writern there and I also specify it's free with the Max Plus 60 instalment plan..

This post has been edited by willkso: May 30 2010, 06:38 PM

ooh, if Courts got it wrong, maybe someone can take advantage of it

its rm4599 40pfl5605 free 32pfl3409 and bdp3100
the rm3399 is 42pfl3605 free hts3366 and dvp3550k

The hard copy catalogue at my place stated the price at 2nd page.. unless that's the printing error. Latest catalogue with price valid from 28th May onwards. Too bad they don't have stock yet when I asked.

was it the court xtreme raya brochure??

Ya.. It's Courts Xtreme Raya brochure East Malaysia version.. See attached




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wow, i got my brochure from jb, so its different, maybe some one can go and buy for real rm3399 is real gd deal:P

3399 with a free 1199 HTiB and 699 BD player is insane.

I was offered 3999 with the BD player at TBM

Out of curiosity, what are the prices of the 559704 sets?

i think Courts have printed wrongly at the brochure ...

or it just a tactic to pull customer to their shops ...at the end,they will said no stok for tat extreme promotion philips lcd tv

If you don't want to take up the instalment scheme, you don't get the 'free' gifts. Only the TV itself at RM3399. Imagine RM29.69 per week for 5 years, how much you have to pay in total for the interest?

This post has been edited by willkso: May 31 2010, 12:25 PM

29.69x52x5 = 7,719.40

even the TV itself @ 3,399 is already a great deal - especially if you consider the fact it's a LED backlit, it has PixelPlusHD processing and 100Hz at 2ms

That's why my earlier post said it was agreat deal although it's just Philips lower end LED backlit LCD TV..

wow,tat's a lot of interests inside...with the total amount of the interests , i can buy 2 units already .....

I think the definitive price for 40PFL5605 as at June 2010 is 3,399

Wonder if happy hour prices at the fair will bring it down much

the cheaper alternative for the 5000 series would be xxpfl5405. i saw philips website (msia) have em, but they took it down shortly... but you can view it in uk website. anybody knows if the dealers here carry em?