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post Feb 12 2010, 03:26 PM, updated 16y ago

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Been looking around for some HDTVs and I came across this TV. Apparently it's CNET Aus' Editor's Choice for Jan 2010. Anyone seen this TV? What's the price? There's not much discussion about Philips TVs so let's start one beginning with this TV.

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post Feb 12 2010, 03:49 PM

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Ya, this is a very nice TV as it's black level is blacker than Pioneer Kuro with the comparison test between these 2. I'm afraid it is quite pricey being their flagship model sweat.gif
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post Feb 12 2010, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(darenlks @ Feb 12 2010, 03:49 PM)
Ya, this is a very nice TV as it's black level is blacker than Pioneer Kuro with the comparison test between these 2. I'm afraid it is quite pricey being their flagship model  sweat.gif
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Interesting. Can u send me the link from the comparison test?
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post Feb 12 2010, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(darenlks @ Feb 12 2010, 03:49 PM)
Ya, this is a very nice TV as it's black level is blacker than Pioneer Kuro with the comparison test between these 2. I'm afraid it is quite pricey being their flagship model  sweat.gif
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When you mean quite pricey, what range are you talking about?
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post Feb 12 2010, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(darenlks @ Feb 12 2010, 03:49 PM)
Ya, this is a very nice TV as it's black level is blacker than Pioneer Kuro with the comparison test between these 2. I'm afraid it is quite pricey being their flagship model  sweat.gif
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i think u read wrongly. so far no plasma can beat kuro black level let alone lcd but this philip got a very good black level. it's also recommended by what hifi.


Added on February 12, 2010, 4:12 pmas quoted by what hifi....

"As for the biggest selling point of all – contrast performance – it’s just as fabulous as you’d hope it would be, the Philips generating pictures that get close to the dramatic depth and punch of Pioneer’s remarkable (and now unavailable) Kuro plasmas."

close....but no cigar tongue.gif

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post Feb 12 2010, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(arremie @ Feb 12 2010, 04:08 PM)
i think u read wrongly. so far no plasma can beat kuro black level let alone lcd but this philip got a very good black level. it's also recommended by what hifi.


Added on February 12, 2010, 4:12 pmas quoted by what hifi....

"As for the biggest selling point of all – contrast performance – it’s just as fabulous as you’d hope it would be, the Philips generating pictures that get close to the dramatic depth and punch of Pioneer’s remarkable (and now unavailable) Kuro plasmas."

close....but no cigar tongue.gif
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I don't think I read wrongly as they have all the images captured for the comparison. Last time when I google around to survey on the LCD TV and happened to find a link to a website (could not recall whether it is a forum), someone has done the comparison between these 2. The way they tested the black level is switch on the tv without any signal under a very dark environment and the image they captured clearly show that it is blacker than Kuro. Will try to relocate that link


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QUOTE(DemonTweakZ @ Feb 12 2010, 04:07 PM)
When you mean quite pricey, what range are you talking about?
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I saw Harvey Norman selling at 12-13K in Dec last year for this size

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post Feb 12 2010, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(darenlks @ Feb 12 2010, 04:18 PM)
I don't think I read wrongly as they have all the images captured for the comparison. Last time when I google around to survey on the LCD TV and happened to find a link to a website (could not recall whether it is a forum), someone has done the comparison between these 2. The way they tested the black level is switch on the tv without any signal under a very dark environment and the image they captured clearly show that it is blacker than Kuro. Will try to relocate that link
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Ah, if it is without any signal the MLL of the Kuro is pretty low. However, I can see how this is so. The local dimming LEDs will shut off when it detects no signal. However, if there is even a little content, the LEDs will turn on. So with any content (even very little) the black levels will increase quite a bit.

In fact, all local dimming LEDs will be absolute black with no signal as the LEDs will turn off completely. However, on actual content, it is not so.

I guess the Philips like all LED backlit sets with local dimming are coming close, but it will be difficult, unless there is 1:1 pixel to LED ratio.
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QUOTE(darenlks @ Feb 12 2010, 04:18 PM)
I saw Harvey Norman selling at 12-13K in Dec last year for this size
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Hmmm that's quite expensive but then again, thats the price range for local-dimming sets rite?
Does anyone here carry this model? Maybe can get cheaper. Or DesaHT?
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post Feb 12 2010, 04:31 PM

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for that price i rather get krp-500a smile.gif
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Feb 12 2010, 04:25 PM)
I guess the Philips like all LED backlit sets with local dimming are coming close, but it will be difficult, unless there is 1:1 pixel to LED ratio.
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1:1 ratio will definitely sky rocket the price. BTw, what's the current pixel to LED ratio?


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QUOTE(darenlks @ Feb 12 2010, 04:18 PM)
I saw Harvey Norman selling at 12-13K in Dec last year for this size
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How about the 40" one? Do you happen to know?

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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Feb 12 2010, 04:25 PM)
Ah, if it is without any signal the MLL of the Kuro is pretty low. However, I can see how this is so. The local dimming LEDs will shut off when it detects no signal. However, if there is even a little content, the LEDs will turn on. So with any content (even very little) the black levels will increase quite a bit.

In fact, all local dimming LEDs will be absolute black with no signal as the LEDs will turn off completely. However, on actual content, it is not so.

I guess the Philips like all LED backlit sets with local dimming are coming close, but it will be difficult, unless there is 1:1 pixel to LED ratio.
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Maybe you are right in that sense. If it could come close to Kuro's black level coupled with cheaper price tag, then it would be more appealing to the majority in the market to own a more affordable and superb set of tv.
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QUOTE(arremie @ Feb 12 2010, 04:31 PM)
for that price i rather get krp-500a smile.gif
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101% fully agree rclxms.gif

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RCP for 40" is RM 9999 FOC Blu-Ray Player..
Very good TV but for the price i think most ppl going for larger screen size.. sad.gif
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QUOTE(DemonTweakZ @ Feb 12 2010, 04:31 PM)
How about the 40" one? Do you happen to know?
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Not cheap also, almost 10K

http://www.cresdo.com/tvsaudioskaraoke/lcd...&page=1&sort=3d
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QUOTE(arremie @ Feb 12 2010, 04:31 PM)
for that price i rather get krp-500a smile.gif
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No dude, I'd go for this one. Energy saving leh. tongue.gif
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post Feb 13 2010, 11:44 AM

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true lcd consume less power but i was referring to price/pq smile.gif
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QUOTE(DemonTweakZ @ Feb 12 2010, 07:41 PM)
No dude, I'd go for this one. Energy saving leh.  tongue.gif
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post Feb 15 2010, 10:58 PM

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Anyone seen this TV recently? I went to some HN outlets and I didn't see it lar. Any online sellers or LYN members carrying this?
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post Feb 16 2010, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(DemonTweakZ @ Feb 15 2010, 10:58 PM)
Anyone seen this TV recently? I went to some HN outlets and I didn't see it lar. Any online sellers or LYN members carrying this?
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Last time I've seen it in HN at Pavillion and Ikano Power Center. You may try the link I posted earlier for the online seller.
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QUOTE(arremie @ Feb 12 2010, 04:31 PM)
for that price i rather get krp-500a smile.gif
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If this LCD pictures can rival those of the plasma,I will get the LCD as the LCD will not have to worry about image retention and burn-in especially with astra beyond now where most channel have stupid logo running. Also consume less power.

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