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daddoo
post Mar 29 2010, 02:23 PM

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I did not glue the kit with landing skid but I used zip tie to tie them together.

Actually the stick slipped off from the plastic joint (where it joins all 4 sticks), so the next time I will use super glue to permanently glue the joint and sticks together.

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post Mar 29 2010, 03:13 PM

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I've learnt the lesson.

Initially I thought that the joint is meant to be replaceable or removable since it provides 2 plastic joint in the package but only 4 sticks & 4 balls. But now it looks like you MUST make sure it stick together forever, untill the plastic joint breaks apart. tongue.gif

So those who never used a training kit before, please do so and it is cheaper than a crash biggrin.gif
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post Mar 29 2010, 11:04 PM

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Adhisriza, where you bought your china-made heli?
Curious to know where got rc heli shop in Ipoh? I know one place only which is penn-mart and they are selling some ESky stuffs ....

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post Mar 30 2010, 02:11 PM

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Cliffang, how did you remove the ball link of your 4G6? Is there any small ball link plier like this?
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post Mar 30 2010, 02:49 PM

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I saw that video on youtube too, hahaha that fellow quite innovative.
But not so easy to create that also since he used a lot of other tools to create this small ball link plier ......
I am thinking of DIY my turn-table to test the gyro as well .... anyone of you did this before ar?
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post Mar 30 2010, 10:15 PM

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The servos of BCPV2 a bit lousy. For example if I move the rudder all the way to one side then release it, the servo horn cannot move back to its original position. By right, it should be centered which is 90 degrees.
The aileron and pitch servos as well, put a total right cyclic or total left cyclic then you will find the swash plate unbalance already .....
Hehehehehe, I think that it is really a beginner's 3D 6CH heli which is meant to crash because so hard to make it works nicely.

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post Mar 30 2010, 11:00 PM

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Ehhhh, maybe I should say like this to make myself comfortable tongue.gif
If I buy Trex 450 straight away and I will crash more since I don't play a 6Ch before.
But if I use BCPV2 as a stepping stone to learn then I will crash lesser when I get Trex 450 later ......
So BCPV2 is a lab rat to me .... wahahhaahhahaha
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post Mar 31 2010, 09:13 AM

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Small heli can survive more easily than a bigger size heli in a crash? Hehe, now I don't dare to touch my 4G6 because it is hard to find parts from LHS. So busy to repair the BCPV2 mad.gif

Hehehe, I am a perfectionist so I would like to sacrify BCPV2 to make my TREX (in the future) flying with no casualty .... wahahahhaah
But you have your points also to start with Trex. But nvm lah, since everything already a fact, just proceed loh .... and at the same time to find myself some excuses. You don't always make people feel bad lah although it might be the facts ..... sweat.gif

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post Mar 31 2010, 11:35 AM

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Yes, I think for my BCPV2 you have to give more and very frequent input to the heli in order to keep it in the air. If the skill is good enough, it wont crash lah. I have seen people flying BCPV2 in a stable manner but I am not one of them .....

Have to think of a way to learn flying this wild bird ... I think simulator cannot help me much here .....
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post Mar 31 2010, 01:02 PM

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Hey, how do you know that I am using FMS?
No, I am not ..... tongue.gif

I have RX, but I found that TREX 450 in the sim is easier to handle compare to my real BCPV2. For sure, the heli in sim you don't need to do setup or tuning. But my BCPV2 does need that ......

Cliffang told me before and I know that there are a lot of videos out there to show you how to mod the linkage but at this moment, I think I am still sticking to the stock design.
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post Mar 31 2010, 05:40 PM

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That one so bad ar? I have seen your video flying compy 300 at your car porch ..... looks good mana tahu so cacat one ..... hehhehehe

I think I should check what servo being used for king 2 ......
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post Mar 31 2010, 09:30 PM

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Actually do we really need the horizontal tail fin? It's use to stable the heli but if we are just hovering, is there any difference to the heli with or without the horizontal one?
The previous crash broken mine but thinking of just remove without replacing. It won't survive for every single crash and expensive and no use to me biggrin.gif ....
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post Apr 1 2010, 09:34 AM

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How does it helps with the horizontal one? Can tell ar? biggrin.gif
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post Apr 1 2010, 03:00 PM

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Based on what I searched, there was a guy saying the same as he did not find any differences flying his BCP with or without the horizontal fin.
With every crash, the blade tends to bang on this plastic part and cracks it.

Alamak, I put some super glue on my training kit to glue the plastic joint and the stick together. A day after that I found my plastic joint a bit brittle and with a little force, it breaks apart maybe because of the chemical reaction ...... what else can I use to glue it up??

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post Apr 1 2010, 04:48 PM

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Where did you ordered your parts?
Have you paid?
Sounds not good if keep you waited too long.
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post Apr 1 2010, 09:15 PM

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Aiyoyo, the WK2801 can use on RealFlight but the axis not so correct one ... a bit hard to configure to make it works but one thing I notice is, it is more realistic than using reflex .......

The same thing I notice on my 4G6 also, where the servo horn won't move back to the centre after left/right rudder ..... headache rclxub.gif
What to do ar? Change the settings in the Tx?

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post Apr 2 2010, 01:01 PM

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What are the parameters you guys usually will touch in the Tx? For example, D/R, exponential.
D/R is the percentage to determine how much travel of the servo will throw, so if you set it to max then the servo angle will move to max.
Expo is the percentage to determine to sensitivity of the stick around the centre. The more you put for expo the less sensitive of the servo movement when you move the stick by a little bit.
Am I getting it right?


Added on April 2, 2010, 1:04 pm
QUOTE(cliffang83 @ Apr 2 2010, 10:23 AM)
I bought from ebay, had log a dispute against it. So, the payment will be held till i received it.


Added on April 2, 2010, 10:25 am
daddoo, QiW had mentioned about your "problem" which is normal.

You can try read the pdf which i posted last time regarding Head Hold Gyro Vs Rated Gyro.
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I was really thinking that this is a problem. Read up about the HH and Rated and understood the term but don't really know that in HH the servo travel will not go back to centre blush.gif
Generally HH is more recommended to beginner as the head will be held by the gyro.

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post Apr 2 2010, 09:04 PM

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If not HH I think the yaw rate one is hard to control because you have an extra movement to manage, provided if the HH mode your tail can lock nicely.

I manage to find out the problem of my Tx when connected with the SIM. It was all due to the mixings I have for that particular memory. Switch to a clean memory model and now all the axis working flawlessly ... yippie ....

I am glad that the Tx came with sim cable.
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post Apr 3 2010, 08:57 PM

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About 4 x 2.5 x 0.8 cm. Mine is a 3.7V 600maH 15C battery.
You want to use it?
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post Apr 3 2010, 10:47 PM

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Hehehe, reference for your plane ar?

Hooiiii-yoooooo, realflight is more harder to sim compare to reflex .... RF should be much more useful to learn hover .... I think smile.gif

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