emm..
i asked my Electrical engr about this, so this is her answer.

Study Electronic and Electrical engineering is better than study specific engineering alone because
-you can cover much more areas.
-Even though you cover more areas ,the subject you are covering are only surface for the added majoring. But you'll have more advantages compared to specific engineer alone.
-i give u one simple situation.
position -process engineer
candidates 1- electrical engineering
candidates 2 - mechatronic (electrical+mechanical)

if both the candidates are good in term of pointer of something,candidates B are likely to be chosen because, he have more advantages. No need to explain more for mechanical stuff for process as he already know during study.
(but still subjected o situation, position, industri and bla bla )

also if electrical engineering and electrical instrument engineering as examples. U'll get more advantages compared to them.

but u see my point isn'it?

Other engineers, do you agree with me? spill out your points.

i take electronic engineering in utar i still have to choose like a major and minor course?

I had an interest in Mechanical Engineering. I had in mind to do my Diploma in Mechanical Engineering at Inti College. Anyone had any comments on whether is it good to do my Diploma in Mechanical Engineering at Inti Subang?

erm...just a question here, im taking AUSMAT and maybe engineering in the future, wondering if its necessary to take up specialist maths.
Is ordinary maths(NOT fundamental) enough to take up engineering? example : mechatronic, civil (No EE)

although im sure most people will recommend me specialist maths.
Just asking if normal maths will do

This post has been edited by dopeycheese: Mar 17 2010, 12:05 AM

well for one thing spec math are usually a pre-requisite for taking an engineering degree so I would assume you need it ^^" You might not be able to enroll in some engineering degrees without spec maths in year 12.

I suggest you take it, although if you don't do it you can still do engineering in Australia.
Some unis in Australia might ask the students to do a course related to specialist maths in uni to prepare them for uni's maths the next semester.
Thus you might have to do more courses and also do summer school in order to be ready for 2nd year engineering with the required maths's requisite.

sory but what is electrical engineering(medical)

For some questions asked here, the answer or at least part of it can be found by spending 5 minutes on Google.

Asking a generic question only reflects your lack of enthusiasm for the subject and shows you can't be bothered. Therefore, please, try doing some background research before asking a question.

hey, i just submitted my application to MMU. the course i put as my first choice was BEng Electronics majoring in Multimedia cos i have interest in IT as well as music. so I think this course can provide good opportunities for me in the future. do u know much about the standards of this course? is it good? i'm also considering a similar course in UCTI.
any college good in mechatronics? that would be my backup plan..
thanks!

Does this advice apply for Biomedical Engineering too? As far as I am concerned, Biomedical Engineering (BME) is simply engineering applied onto human biology and vice versa. It's like using Mechanical or Electrical or Electronic Engineering to do what people in Medicine do : treating humans and maintaining their health, right?

Does that mean it's also too early for me if I choose BME for my undergraduate course? (after my pre-U anyway)
Even from the wikipedia article about this course ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biomedical_Engineering ), they mentioned that most professionals in this field possess postgraduate qualifications. Then, why do they even have this course at undergraduate level? Why do they offer automotive and computer engineering courses for undergraduates?



By the way, where can I really join discussions on Bio-related Engineering courses? (other examples than BME areEnvironmental Engineering and Biological Engineering)
Most forums and articles focus on typical engineering disciplines like mechanical, electrical and civil engineering..





To briefly describe my interests, I like many things. To narrow them down, my mind simply decided to hate certain things, like business and politics. I look forward to studying only a science-based course.
It just happens that I like Physics, and I'm always ahead in Mathematics (Modern or Additional), and gained a good interest in Biology after attending a tuition class for almost a year. I don't really fancy Chemistry though (too much new ABC's).
I want to use my ability of mastering several subjects to good, and I thought BME is just the right choice. (I get to apply my Physics, Maths, Biology, Chemistry and even English knowledge, right? Not Literature though =( )





... advice? Thanks in advance :3

freezit4,

<<Then, why do they even have this course at undergraduate level? Why do they offer automotive and computer engineering courses for >>

Because people are STUPID ENOUGH to believe that they can SPECIALIZE at undergraduate level and enjoy some kind of advantage. This is called MARKETING.

Just because somebody offer something, it does not mean you have to buy it.

It is USEFUL and GOOD for them to sell. It does not mean it is GOOD for you to study.

<< To briefly describe my interests, I like many things. To narrow them down, my mind simply decided to hate certain things, like business and politics. I look forward to studying only a science-based course.
It just happens that I like Physics, and I'm always ahead in Mathematics (Modern or Additional), and gained a good interest in Biology after attending a tuition class for almost a year. I don't really fancy Chemistry though (too much new ABC's).
I want to use my ability of mastering several subjects to good, and I thought BME is just the right choice. (I get to apply my Physics, Maths, Biology, Chemistry and even English knowledge, right? Not Literature though =( )
... advice? Thanks in advance :3>>

How many pages in this thread have you READ?? Read those pages and ask yourself whether you FIT the profile of a good engineer.

Dreamer

All. It just happens that I like the concept of engineering, and it just happens that I like other concepts too. I like how my actions result in a desired, previously imagined effect, but as a result I like human psychology too.

My mind is funny. Self-conflict occurs everytime. My ego is stopping me from taking something everyone else is, like Mechanical Engineering, like Medicine. BME sounds just- rare.
And in a more positive note, since not many people are talking about it anyway, I thought I might be the one who'll make them do in the future.



I've gone through the posts on how an engineer thinks and behaves, and was quite happy to find out I do have those qualities.
Really, if anyone were to ask me what to be, I'd sincerely answer "Engineer". Then it goes, "of what kind?".
Well, I do prefer mechanics to electric and electronics, but I'm confident I can do any form of physics-related problem as long as I'm sufficiently trained.
Then I go "BME" and they'll be "whaa?" and "you won't get a job here" and I'd be "then I'll go work at vacant mamak outlets until I get 'em".

But now I have you sayin' I have been fooled into thinking specialising at undergraduate level is possible
But now I have another reason to hate business. But also another reason to get involved in it.



Well, thanks though.


p/s : If anyone asks me to take up Medicine, I won't, simply because I'm not interested.

I'm curious. How much do you do or know about mechanical versus electrical and electronics, that you can say you prefer one over the other?

I'll take Electrical Engineering based on many advises.

If you take mechanical engineering, you can work in robotic, automotive, any moving parts industry.
If you take E&E engineering, you can work in Sony, Panasonic, etc, you build motherboards, small circuits, gadgets, computer devices etc.

That's all I know but correct me if im wrong. Im newbie too.

i wonder if electrical and electronic engineering are the same whencomes to employment, becuase i see most of the employer tend to hire electrical engineer rather than electronic engineer in the job section in the star. is electrical engineer stand a higher job opportunities than an electronic engineer do? sry about my bad eng, hope u understand my question, thnx.

i have a question...do i nid BEM or IEM in order to further my study or career in much high lvl?
wad about MQA n MQR? does the course n uni i study require their recognise to work?
i m planning to go for mechatronic engineering...

hey guys, well just got my SPM ...6A's 3B+ (kinda dissapointed)
Well Im interested in aeronautical or aerospace engineering, its just that my add math was a B+.

Im more interested in Research and Development, something like ' this type of airframe will produce a larger drag' research and experimenting physical quantities surrounding the aircraft, would aeronautical engineering fullfill that particular interest or is there another type of degree...

And what college/university offers the most for the two course?

and between the two, which has a higher chance of getting a job?
Thanks for reading, and i hope i get a reply

deShinyDevil,

1) Electrical engineering is LESS SPECIALIZED than Electronic Engineering. Hence, the STANDARD ADVICE of NOT SPECIALIZING at undergraduate level applies.

2) In undergraduate level, if you specialized

A) You do not take enough courses at that special area to be GOOD at that area.

B) You sacrifices something in the process. Hence, your FOUNDATION at the WHOLE AREA is WEAK. The WORLD is changing. You have NO IDEA what you will need to work at. A STRONG FOUNDATION lets you go further and be ADAPTIVE.

C) Until you work for a few years, you have NO IDEA where do you FIT in anyhow. So, be FLEXIBLE and have a STRONG FOUNDATION is a safer choice.

3) Your generation will work at least 10 different jobs before you retire. So, you need to KNOW and LEARN EVERYTHING.

Dreamer

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Added on March 21, 2010, 10:39 pmfreezit4,

<<All. It just happens that I like the concept of engineering, and it just happens that I like other concepts too. I like how my actions result in a desired, previously imagined effect, but as a result I like human psychology too.>>

What do you LOVE?? Like is NOT good enough. What are you willing to work for FREE?? What are YOU HOBBIES??

<<I like human psychology>>

Engineer like dealing with machine more than human being.

<<My ego is stopping me from taking something everyone else is, like Mechanical Engineering, like Medicine. BME sounds just- rare>>>

What ego?? Are you TOP 10 or TOP 100 SPM students in Malaysia?? If not, you are just AVERAGE. Taking BME will not make any DIFFERENCE.

Dreamer

This post has been edited by dreamer101: Mar 21 2010, 10:39 PM

Hello , i'm interested in Machanical engineering and i will do foundation of

science soon.

But the question now is , which college/university shall i choose ?

Which college/university is renown for it's mechanical engineering ?

And what's the fee of it (Average price , not over-priced.)

(can i ask this question here ? if not please tell me)

This post has been edited by chantakzee: Mar 22 2010, 04:47 AM

You'll very seldom see company hiring electronics engineer because that's really too generic a term these days.
Just to set the perspective straight on what kind of jobs falls under electronics,
1. Analog/RF, digital, power electronics design (each one a very specialized field),
2. PCB layout,
3. ASIC/FPGA design, Analog layout, Backend synthesizing (all part of IC design, again each one a very specialized field),
4. Firmware design (a field that transverse electronics and programming)
5. Process/product (wafer, IC packaging, test, QA, FA)


And here are some broad areas that falls under electrical (note I'm not in electrical sector so my knowledge is limited),
1. High-voltage areas (power generators, step-up/down transformers, power transmission lines),
2. AC/DC Motor,
3. Telecommunication lines,
4. Industrial/Building electrical wiring,
In Malaysia, most of the time electrical engineer hiring positions refers to #4.



You got a B+ for Add Math because you didn't bother to study at all, or you're having difficulties with Add Math?
I'd suggest anybody with difficulties in Add Math be wary of taking engineering course. It will be much harder.

That said, UTM has aeronautics course under Faculty of Mechanical Engineering. I heard it is very tough and they only pick top students.