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post Feb 18 2010, 01:13 PM

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valencia got better pace and determination while nani got better technique and pass

valencia do look to be better candidate to play senior milan defence..
i bet SAF know this as well but nani currently ban from english football and on form so he is the choosen one

his performance vs milan aint good but atleast he dont look brainless.. and it aint that bad i prefer to credit milan defence than to bash nani

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post Feb 18 2010, 01:28 PM

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oh since we're talking about Nani, here's my rant..
true, we cant judge them right on the spot when we bought them, the thing is, Nani has been around for quite sometimes, how many seasons. last time people would say "oh, he's been under Ron's shadow" IMHO u can always overcome whoever's shadow to shine, and improve from time to time. Problem with him now is i dont see much improvement until now. he simply Loves to hold the ball to himself and then what, wasted all the chances? only the past few games he actually 'remember' to pass the ball to other players. im not saying he's all bad. it's just at times he's being selfish and it hurts the game play. it gets annoying to see him play like that . most of the time i watch him play, i'll be like " OMG NANI what on Earth are you doing??" so yea, some people do get frustrated with his play style.. -end of rant-
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I am guessing that we are too spoiled by Ron and Roon's development. And how the class of 92 did well when they 'graduated'.

People expects more from young players these days. Simple as that. And not all of the footballers have the capacity as Roo, Ron, Messi, Fabregas and etc have.
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post Feb 18 2010, 01:47 PM

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i was watching vids of our season in 07/08 and 08/09 when we still have CR7. I notice the goal is more loose lor. No teams parked their bus. Nowadays.. wan dribble into the penalty box also hard. 10 man in the box defending...
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post Feb 18 2010, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(IcyDarling @ Feb 18 2010, 01:47 PM)
i was watching vids of our season in 07/08 and 08/09 when we still have CR7. I notice the goal is more loose lor. No teams parked their bus. Nowadays.. wan dribble into the penalty box also hard. 10 man in the box defending...
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or might be RON7 was to fast for the opponent to park a bus in front of their penalty box?
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post Feb 18 2010, 04:13 PM

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alien, how come the ac milan UCL highlight is in german commentary? no english one punya kah??
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post Feb 18 2010, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(IcyDarling @ Feb 18 2010, 10:08 AM)
oh ic... no wonder we cant win ac milan last time la... coz we "one-man team" and "will lose without Ronaldo" (by spectra86  biggrin.gif )
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that old AC Milan was a monster team with hell technical player
Gattuso, Seedorf, Pirlo, Maldini and Kaka


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QUOTE(sinoffire @ Feb 18 2010, 04:13 PM)
alien, how come the ac milan UCL highlight is in german commentary? no english one punya kah??
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That time the English version was not available yet smile.gif

Now posted: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=31435550 biggrin.gif

MANCHESTER UNITED READY TO SNAP UP JOE COLE

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MANCHESTER UNITED are ready to make a summer move for England midfielder Joe Cole if he cannot resolve his contract dispute at Chelsea.

Talks on a new deal for Cole have dragged on for weeks and are no nearer being concluded.

Cole, 28, will be out of contract in the summer and clubs are now beginning to be alerted that his future is becoming increasingly uncertain. Sir Alex Ferguson has been an admirer of Cole for some time and the prospect of picking up such an experienced and talented player on the cheap would be an attractive one.

United boss Ferguson is looking for reinforcements on the left for Ryan Giggs and Cole, who could be available as a free agent, would be a bargain.

Tottenham manager Harry Redknapp groomed Cole at West Ham and turned him into a star.

He would love to take him to White Hart Lane but Cole’s £80,000-a-week wages at Stamford Bridge are out of his range. Cole has told friends that he would at some stage like to play under Ferguson. He would like to stay at his first love, Chelsea, but talks over a new deal are at a stalemate.

He wants to be moved into the same £120,000-plus wage bracket as players such as Nicolas Anelka, but the club are reluctant to hand out big-money deals in the current financial climate.

And Cole has had a miserable season. He came back from a cruciate ligament injury in September and has since started just nine games under Carlo Ancelotti, above, finishing only three.

He has made another six substitute appearances, adding up to only 814 minutes of playing time in five months.

On Saturday Cole was hauled off by Ancelotti at half-time against Cardiff in the FA Cup.

Ancelotti says Cole is still a part of his plans, but Manchester City are also keen on Cole and there will be no shortage of suitors.


http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/158854...nap-up-Joe-Cole

Spanish newspaper Sport: Barcelona interested in Manchester United's O'Shea

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According to Spanish newspaper 'Sport', Barcelona have shortlisted their summer transfer targets which include Manchester United utility man John O'Shea .

The European champions are reportedly searching for two types of additions to their squad. They are keen to add another creative dimension and in addition to the ubiquitous mention of Arsenal's Cesc Fabregas, Franck Ribery and David Silva are highlighted as likely targets.

'Sport' also claims that the Catalans are looking to bring in another right-sided defender, especially with Brazilian Dani Alves currently their only real option in that position. In addition to Osasuna's 20 year-old Cesar Azpilicueta , Manchester United 's John O'Shea is said to be a target to fill the gap.

'Sport' speculates that O'Shea's experience and versatility make him an attractive proposition for Barcelona.  The 28 year-old has spent his entire career so far at Old Trafford. However, O'Shea has been injured ever since Ireland's World Cup play-off defeat against France with a mystery leg injury.  He is unlikely to play for Manchester United again this season.


http://www.imscouting.com/global-news-arti...eds-OShea/5873/

PICTURE SPECIAL: Ryan Giggs reveals the sling holding his broken arm together in a scene from a Lowry painting

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Ryan Giggs emerged from the Lowry Hotel in Manchester a shadow of his former self and with his broken arm in a sling.

Actually it was more a five o'clock shadow of his former self as the Manchester United legend flopped into the passenger seat of a waiting car with the help of a valet, sporting the sort of beard only a man with no means of being able to shave properly can get away with.

Giggs,36, will miss four weeks after breaking his arm following a a clash with Aston Villa's Steve Sidwell but he looked relaxed following United's stunning 3-2 Champions League win in Milan.

He also looked like something out of a Lowry painting with his black hat perched atop his Welsh curls - but at least the valet looked happy, even if he couldn't get an autograph on account of the bad break.

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Caption (from the webpage): Ah good morning Mr Giggs...hope you enjoyed your stay at The Lowry and I'm sorry our remote controlled door isn't working...

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Caption (from the webpage): ...that's a nasty-looking arm you've got there. Here, let me help into your car, this posh black one...

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Caption (from the webpage): ...do you mind if I get a picture of you as I love that hat and beard combo and you clearly can't sign an autograph for me. Drive carefully, or should I say Caerphilly, if you excuse my little joke...?


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...re-special.html

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post Feb 18 2010, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(boxsystem @ Feb 18 2010, 01:28 PM)
I am guessing that we are too spoiled by Ron and Roon's development. And how the class of 92 did well when they 'graduated'.

People expects more from young players these days. Simple as that. And not all of the footballers have the capacity as Roo, Ron, Messi, Fabregas and etc have.
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No. You're wrong. People expect players to perform. Simple as that. Not to the extend with the likes of Rooney, Ronaldo, Messi etc, but perform as in doing their best for the team, if not individually.
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post Feb 18 2010, 05:33 PM

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Barca interested on O'Shea laugh.gif

those media need to be more creative
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post Feb 18 2010, 05:35 PM

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lol O'Shea? An Irishman in Spain?
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post Feb 18 2010, 05:48 PM

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hrm. I dont mind if we manage to get joe cole. Barca for O'shea ?? haha.
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post Feb 18 2010, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Feb 18 2010, 06:26 PM)
No. You're wrong. People expect players to perform. Simple as that. Not to the extend with the likes of Rooney, Ronaldo, Messi etc, but perform as in doing their best for the team, if not individually.
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Come to think of it, i agree with some guys that say italian football are more technical and therefore nulifies Nani with their Zonal Defense

QUOTE(hvtan @ Feb 18 2010, 06:33 PM)
Barca interested on O'Shea laugh.gif

those media need to be more creative
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Later O shea go barcelona and whack up henry
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post Feb 18 2010, 06:14 PM

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o'shea? barca sure hv quality scout with them tongue.gif
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post Feb 18 2010, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Feb 18 2010, 05:26 PM)
No. You're wrong. People expect players to perform. Simple as that. Not to the extend with the likes of Rooney, Ronaldo, Messi etc, but perform as in doing their best for the team, if not individually.
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Consistency of Roo, Ron and etc.

That was what I am referring to. That's talent.
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post Feb 18 2010, 06:40 PM

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o'shea sure wont play for first team in barcelona because barcelona needs some utility players on the bench only ...
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QUOTE(boxsystem @ Feb 18 2010, 06:38 PM)
Consistency of Roo, Ron and etc.

That was what I am referring to. That's talent.
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Hmm...not sure whether consistency is consider talent. For me, it's more like a mental thingy. smile.gif
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post Feb 18 2010, 07:05 PM

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why every single transfer rumour that has to do with us, arsenal, liverpool and manchester united also connected with city? what, city have 100 slots for players izit?

lets see..
they were practically connected to
manchester united: huntelaar, david villa, david silva, sergio aguero, j.cole
chelsea: sergio aguero, ribery
arsenal: chamakh
liverpool: van der vaart
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post Feb 18 2010, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Feb 18 2010, 06:43 PM)
Hmm...not sure whether consistency is consider talent. For me, it's more like a mental thingy. smile.gif
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Sorry, you're right. That is mental.

TBF, none of us know what's on Nani's mind. When he was brought in, everyone has touted him to be the next Ronaldo. I don't really know what factor that hinders his talent. Yes, we all know he has talent. Sure, everyone is pulling their hairs out watching Nani playing with no footballing brain.

He has just started to put in performance after performance. Too bad, he's banned in EPL. That is the stage he could play his traits the best because technical abilities isn't that important in EPL. A team that can play so well together can win matches. Individual brilliance doesn't count much.

Back to the Milan match, he was facing an experienced defender. Yes, he should have use his pace. Yet, he chose to use his technical traits rather than being straight forward. Hence, Valencia came into the picture.

1 bad match after putting in back to back good performance bar red card. Why all the negativity towards him? If SAF still has the capacity to be tolerate with him, why not us? The old man knows Nani better than us, isn't he?

Rooney himself played like crap earlier in the season. There was this one match whereby Rooney kept loosing the ball at the opponents area. Most of us didn't slag him off except for me and Sheep back then.

Differences between Rooney and Nani :

Weekly appearances which builds up consistency. Same goes for Ronaldo. He was basically threw in week in and week out.
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why every single transfer rumour that has to do with us, arsenal, liverpool and manchester united also connected with city? what, city have 100 slots for players izit?
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tamak ma ..

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post Feb 18 2010, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(nimrod2 @ Feb 18 2010, 01:44 AM)
pace and skills doesnt equate to a football genius.

cos a football genius needs a football brain.
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True, pace and skills would make you a great athelete and it would be a huge advantage in football. But to be a real genius you have to have a football brain.

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