budget around 15k u want to do so many things? for honda swaps 15k is considered minimum budget only, that means buying the half cut, swapping in, doing basic maintenance and jpj approval, that's it

and dont even dream of the k20a swap because the engine alone already exceeded your budget

there's one more engine u haven't consider yet, it's the F20B, it's cheap, it's got the power u want and the dashboard looks great

This post has been edited by stormlcc: Jan 24 2010, 01:56 PM

1) RED top more than 12k, BLACK top around 10k, the price already gone sky high nowadays
2) small v is 160hp 1st gen, big v is 170hp 2nd gen
3) YES, and make sure u get the S-tronic gearbox, which looks super cool with + - gear in an old car such as yours, it used to sell RM4500 few years back, if my estimation is correct, it'll now sell around RM5-6k, which is still a bargain comparing to the overpriced B series
4) almost anything can be plugged in, however why should u, when there r so many good choices around

oh sorry, i wrote the wrong name, yes it's S-matic, not S-tronic. choosing which one depends on yourself, but i would choose the 180hp S-matic version anyday just because of the cool factor (the +- gear is just way too cool to ignore ), and it's an auto gearbox for city driving. If u fancy a manual just go ahead, but the price might be a bit more expensive than the auto.

if the price in KL is too expensive, try other places like klang or bentong (pahang), the prices in these 2 places is much more affordable (in some shops at least)

This post has been edited by stormlcc: Jan 26 2010, 10:22 AM

wow, 5k+ is a pretty good price, 8k+ is ok if it includes new timing belt and dashboard transplant, go for it and make sure u post some photos of your car after the transplant

that's because the car is so heavy, if that engine is in an old car, u'll be always smiling everytime u step on the pedal

i didn't know there's a f20b blue top without vtec, those without vtec ones doesn't have blue covers and is SOHC.......anyone can clarify this? about the new exhaust system, what does it include, i mean, there r so many kinds of extractors and mufflers out there (stainless steel or just steel) with lots of different brands, how much does your mechanic charge for the exhaust system alone?

and with this engine, 2.5" is the best for it, 2" is just too small, my 1.6 20valve blacktop also using 2" piping and it's restricting the air-flow a bit (even without bullet), i'm sure in a f20b it'll limit the response a lot, plus if using bullet / silencer it'll restrict much more.

u can do the exhaust system in another shop that specializes in it, that will probably set u back around 2k for the entire stainless steel + branded s-flow muffler, or 1.2k for white steel (which will rust after a couple of years) + branded muffler. If u don't want the exhaust to be too noisy, a good s-flow muffler will probably do the job, no need center bullet, it's such a waste of good power and response. but make sure u do the jpj approval for the engine first before u go do your exhaust. U can use back your original prelude exhaust for the jpj inspection, after approved, then only change it.

that's why this is the best engine option in an old prelude with the best value vs performance comparison. the prelude is using a 1.8 engine, therefore if change to b16a, it's a downgrade and the price for the conversion is around RM10k for everything, it's not worth the price and the power isn't as good as the f20b. if change to b18c blacktop the price is around 12k for everything, although the power is almost the same as the f20b, the price is too much.

This post has been edited by stormlcc: Jan 28 2010, 12:11 AM

choosing workshop depend on whether you trust the shop or not

1) not honest, the boss should give u the exact price of the transplant, not change it when hear u going somewhere else every time.
2) not honest also, how can the price be so big a difference, but RM1300 is just so attractive, if the shop is very experienced in engine swapping then go ahead, if not, better find another honest and reliable shop
3) if it's your father's friend's shop and if it's a trusted mechanic, this is the best option, although a bit more expensive (RM1800 is considered normal price for engine and dashboard transplant) but u won't have headaches after the transplant

use back the original extractor, Honda knows what their doing, so don't bother to get other custom made extractors which will have a high chance of ruining your air flow.  If want to change, must change branded ones, but they r quite expensive.  If u want to change the exhaust system then only go inspection, install a bullet to make sure it stays 100% silent and an S-flow muffler, preferably from mugen, although it'll be a bit expensive but it's silent and efficient, after approval then get the bullet out.


This post has been edited by stormlcc: Jan 28 2010, 03:17 PM

errr are u sure u r in the right planet? or r u just plain noob about engine transplants...........pls go back to your original planet and not say anything otherworldly in this forum

engine lantai is obviously "an engine on the floor" means just the engine, maybe with gearbox, and maybe with wiring depends on the package and no body parts like those halfcuts

about the NSX engine, i totally LOL at the idea. I mean, yes, if u have the cash, u can do the transplant, and the project will depend on how much cash u have because there are so many things that needs to be modified to fit this engine in. And even if u got it running, the car won't be legal to run on public roads.


what's the point of having a turbo kit that ruins the smoothness of the standard engine, pls note that this is a daily used car, if want a turbo engine, get a car that is more suited to a plug and play engine, like a galant vr4. plus......turbo kits with low boost sucks, 0.7 bar is nothing, just a waste of good cash

This post has been edited by stormlcc: Feb 1 2010, 02:59 AM