Firstly, "a waste of resources" is called brand marketing, and market research on the popularity of the game itself can be easily done. Also, the player's job is to populate, attend, and compete in sponsored tournaments in order for the sponsors to gain more eyeball counts in favor of their advertising.
I understand "brand marketing" but that doesnt mean a company needs to throw their resources into an event that rarely gives any amount of returns - take a good look at how many other events out there that didn't make it, participation was low, yet the amount the companies put into it was way too much, if they were successful, its fine, but if it wasn't, it ruins the chances of the entire industry of receiving such sponsorships in the future. Sponsors will be skeptical after seeing such events and you'd probably need a couple of months or years to try and convince them again. (i would rather not name those events, since it would be considered "talking bad about it".
It's not the player's concern to "share the burden" of organizing the event with sponsors and organizers. You see, they wouldn't need to share the burden, if they weren't part of it.
Nothing comes for free, you of all people should know that. If you expect sponsors and organizers to just throw themselves at you; then your concept of e-sports, sponsors and the industry's stakeholders is completely wrong; as a pro-gamer you should be able to understand that in order for people to provide for you, you have to be pro-active in returning the favor.
Of course, we're talking about sponsored tournaments instead of community based events in which everyone has a part in the success of the event, but then again this is the [b]Crossfire Intel Challenge 7: Malaysian Edition, not
Lowyat.Net CS/QL/COD Players Tournament 2010.
This event is barely sponsored - the budget is out of my own pocket.
Why is it CIC7? We adopted the name, their system and their formats, rules and regulations to help improve the quality of local gamers. How? By giving them the opportunity to play as much as possible for as long as possible with teams from different levels.
This is a benchmark and a proving point that - as much as i would love Intel Worldwide, Samsung, Razer, Steelseries or any other major company out there that could be part of this financially, we as a company can still provide the best quality in tournaments with whatever resources we have and further more do it for close to nothing.
This also proves our passion for the gaming industry, the gamers and the competitive scene. The entire team is working for close to nothing in return, aside from the 20% from the registration fees.
I'm all for community gaming events which genuinely wants to improve the local scene. However, with the limited information I've read about this event, I wonder why is it named the Crossfire Intel Challenge.If you're all for the community gaming events, then you shouldn't come up with such distasteful remarks for people who'd do it for you.
Crossfire Intel Challenge is named as such because
1. Its a collaboration with the organizing team CF in Netherlands.
2. They are the ones who provide the majority of the RnR and artwork - albeit slow
3. Officially Intel Worldwide has agreed with the idea, but cannot provide at this time - understandable since we passed their fiscal quarterly budget plans
4. We still kept Intel because we are showing gratitude for them to allow us to do this event, also for the amount of effort they put in throughout the years in the gaming industry.
Basically, except the point that by including registration fees as the triggered prize money, it eliminates a lot of interested players. It's not an accurate measure of the popularity of the game. Not to mention that for an international name sponsoring an event/tournament which grand prize is triggered by registration fees isn't very pretty.
If interest means that its just about the money, then you're wrong. Plenty of players still play because they want to, because they want to show of their skills - improve and compete with the best and rest of the locals. Yes, money plays a part, a huge part in fact - so huge that they will need to be willing to fork out a small sum to gain more. Tell me, when was the last time CS had a good tournament. For the longest time, they have been waiting.
We are here to provide. These fees will gradually be reduced to fit the teams - higher tier teams pay the maximum amount(they have more to lose; fame, fortune and a higher chance of winning), while lower teams get to pay a far lesser amount(they lack the confidence, experience but still want to try - we give them that chance). This allows entry level teams to continue participating, while those who have been competing since day 1 still play for the prize.
We are looking at a broad picture, a picture has the capability of lasting for years. It is a stepping stone to further increase the numbers, but before we can do that, we need to see who'd be interested in following us there. Crossfire Cups will be planned to happen every 2-3 months, with similar systems for each tier - already mentioned in my previous post. Perhaps i will reveal a more solid introduction to what ESP as a company is going to do for the rest of the year.
As for the Call of Duty 4 community, im proud to say that they already understand - solely because they have been self sufficient WITHOUT direct support from their license companies and they have been doing so for the past 2 years. Cups will be run on a monthly basis unless there are major events.
Don't get me wrong though, I'm basically a strong supporter of E-sports whether it's local or international. Just pointing out my opinions.
No offence taken.
Just noticed the RM40 deficit per 8 players for the grand prize. It's not a big amount of money but do the players' registration fees contribute to someone's salary other purposes too?
Maybe you didn't read the first page and replied directly to my previous post so; 80% of the registration fees go to the prize pot - 20% goes to cover any expenses.
Marshals need to be paid - although for a mere RM 20 a day.
Mock cheques need to be made
Buntings and banners need to be printed
T-shirts need to be provided (albeit for the top 8 teams)
Tags for Crew, Sponsors and Media need to be made
This costs a total of at least RM1,500. Does the RM40 missing ringgit cover the total cost of that? Besides, its coming from my own pocket, does it really matter how much money i put into the event? If it does, then just wait for the financial report after you sign up for the event eh? We're not going to up and leave with the reg fees, if i wanted to be a thief, i'd rob something much larger than my own event.
This post has been edited by crashtec: Feb 6 2010, 04:59 PM 
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