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Dackson
post Aug 12 2011, 08:38 PM

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I'm newbie, i wanna ask how to see the mutual fund is good ?
currently I'm hving Eastern far consumer theme fund and PB fix deposit fund..
Pls enlighten me ~
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post Aug 12 2011, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Aug 12 2011, 08:43 PM)
Step 1. Learn how to compare investments, at the very least, returns per annum (the %pa U see in FDs, loans, etc.) or CAGR (Compound Annualized Growth Rate or something - google it).

2. Once U know, then U can compare your fund's CAGR vs other funds' CAGR - preferably of similar nature

3. Dont know what the heck or too lazy to do 1 & 2? Buy Personal Money magazine and see at the back pages whether your fund is more changgih than other funds in the 1yr, 3yrs and 5yrs performances + it's Lippers / Morningstar / Normandy rating.

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thx alot ^^
by the way, any nice fund recommended ? when the fund give dividend ?
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post Aug 12 2011, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Aug 12 2011, 09:27 PM)
Sorry bro - i dont recommend funds buta. No perfect funds - only good enough funds, to be coupled to good enough entry & exit methodologies, to meet your personal investing needs/requirements tongue.gif


Added on August 12, 2011, 9:28 pm

1K UNIT minimum, dumb rule yar, what to do. Baka rule, really baka rule.
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bcoz I'm doubt with the fund.
i saw the far-east consumer fund hving bad quarter yet still hv dividend given. but fix income fund no dividend yet the overall bid, return look better than far -east consumer ,,,
some more some with lower and higher expenses .. hmmm./ curious, it's really need to read into the full report of that fund ?? shocking.gif shocking.gif

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Aug 12 2011, 09:34 PM)
Bro - search & read this thread & topic on "dividend".

For mutual funds, issuance of dividends are not really good for investors. I'm way too lazy to repeat what was posted by myself and many bros in this thread. Search and ye shall find  brows.gif

Focus on total returns - ie. total VALUE held vs total cost paid, not dividends.
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but the return only hv 1 year, 3 years and 5 years.
base on the chart, fix income fund not good at mid year, while far east consumer not good when market fall unsure.gif

ok. i go to look for the dividend ~
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QUOTE(gark @ Aug 13 2011, 02:36 PM)
And both of these, Australia and Natural resources are hand in hand dropping like a rock.... Buy if you think iron, nickle, copper, oil etc is going up in the future...
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natural resources always depliting, some is renewable resources and some is not.
In future, may be no need oils ald, there is few way to get natural resources in future flex.gif
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post Aug 14 2011, 12:27 AM

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It's for mutual fund, it's need to service charge at 5.5% during purchase and 5.5% during sold ?
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QUOTE(David83 @ Aug 14 2011, 12:28 AM)
Purchase! No charge during sell.
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oh~ then reduce my panic ... scared me, total 11% charge sweat.gif
I want to ask, how a fund calculate the non taxable income ? bcoz even the the unit price drop but it still hv income to buy the unit. end up it may reduce lose on it ... so far i calculated .. all the fund losing money. How come they said grantee didnt burn the basic money invested ?


Added on August 14, 2011, 12:35 ambase on the purchase transaction, why said the fund min need RM1k to purchase ? purchase 1k fund, then should add 1k + charge to make 1k fund purchase, so total is ~ RM947 used to buy the fund ...

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Aug 14 2011, 01:29 AM)
SC is 5.5%.. But to be frank, agent commission really sarks to the bottom one.. Client invest RM1000, agent commission only around RM25. Zzz
Car petrol toll drink eat, finish off already la..
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I dnt think the client help much ...
Ask to buy fixed income fund, this fund keep forming a circle one. How to make money from this fund ? Look like he wanna ensure you sold and buy back the fund constantly to generate fix income for him.
The agent get the commission yet didnt inform to sold the fund, even keep help u buy it when the fund keep dropping =___=
Some more ask my mum to buy it early and said dividend coming. End up by mum buy at the top price, the dividend not enough to cover lose. buy at 0.86xx now it raise back to from previous bottom 0.7980xx ~.~

For them to get 10k a month is easy ! Their main target is those who dnt know it ~

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QUOTE(kparam77 @ Aug 14 2011, 12:31 PM)
i stop encourage my client go for those fund giving dividends at least 3 months gap.  after i aware the dividdns actualy after the tax, and the money must work for u to give dividedns.

it depends on UT  to cut the lost (SC) within 1 yr. if the market  in uptrend, it may cover.

my smallcap cover the SC within within 6 motnhs include gain during uptrend. its all depeds on the market trend and the fund performance.

so, learn from the mistake.

investors shud understand abt the capital gain/lost vs dividedns.

if u focus on gain...look for growth fund dont bother abt dividedns. dividedns actualy from ur own money. not the company giv u extra from thier pocket.

if u want steady income/dividedns annualy. go for dividedns fund. no matter how the market, u will get the dividedns n of-cource depends on fund performance too. n ur units will remain unchange after the dividedns payout. ur capital is ur units.

the value of ur unit determine by the unit price mvment and the fund performance.

go to how to calculate the unit trust in my signature.
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not I want to purchase that fund one. Is my parent purchase one. I said dnt want end up they still buy it.
After i calculate few of the fund, it only earn 4.7% after deduct from the SC (1 year ald =___=). This 4.7% is luckily the NAV increase if not eat the sand vmad.gif I believe i keep it at good dividend share. Keep at EPF better or Prudential (my friend said > EPF).
I hvnt calculate out my sister monthly invested high risk fund gross, I think that one hungus ald ...

Any fund nice for recommend ? Alot hungus fund, it's time to buy it and keep ^.^
Today is the 2nd day i know how the fund work. hmm.gif
I'm thinking of new and potential fund, Indonesia fund, Equity fund. I saw that Public fund some how related to their public quarter result and interim dividend, which majority fund price down after quarter report =_______=


Added on August 14, 2011, 12:53 pm
QUOTE(kparam77 @ Aug 14 2011, 12:43 PM)
all the benefits follw the SC guides. actualy agent commission already reduce since the SC reduce from 6.5% to 5.5%, some time ago. cannot reduce-lagi-lah kawan.

u still hv option go for fundmart where the SC is only 1%. but not PM -lah .. other company. u need to checkm abt is there any repurchase charge too and also the mgnmt fee.

i thinkall the mangt fee for all UTMC include amanah saham manage by PNB are similar. corect me if i wrong.   not fair only ask PM to reduce the mgmnt fee.

is there any UTMC giving less mgmnt fee?
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is there any way that dnt want agent recommend ? Then should reduce agent commission ? Few year later SC may be can reduce to 4% ?
That agent just fill up the form and bla bla ~ if real one, will bring out financial calculator to calculate possible return during uptrend and downtrend.

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Aug 14 2011, 04:16 PM)
But if anyone wanna have me as agent, can PM me la.. I am active tracker on KLSE market and got other lubangs..
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But to be frank.. If wanna say investing in UT and compare to listed REITs, I think some listed REITs can perform better..
But asking people to buy listed REITs, no commission.
Asking people to buy UT, got commission
But listed REIT can easily perform better than quite a lot of UT fund..
So confused. Hahaha..

Added on August 14, 2011, 4:21 pm
I just want to say.. Ouch!!
Pushing customer to buy cum dividend.. sad.gif
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Agent as broker ? Fund agent ?
Which REITs ?
What is UT ??

That agent is friend some more shocking.gif shocking.gif
So easy ask ppl buy with dividend, i also can do it. I can get the license if i want. Currently i thinking want to get investment link insurance or not. This kind of job hv part time one ?
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Aug 14 2011, 04:59 PM)
Corrected.. haha.. Joking
Haha.. Public Mutual Fund lo... smile.gif
Hahaha

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Fund Manager hmm.gif hmm.gif Affin or else ?

Public hving so many mutual fund rclxub.gif


Added on August 14, 2011, 5:23 pmby the way, how to know the Fund with no dividend given from morningstar ? Some fund with detail yet some without =______=

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QUOTE(kparam77 @ Aug 14 2011, 05:39 PM)
for PM,if any new fund lauch with dividedns policy incidental, no dividedns for 1st 1 or 2 yrs. but still depends on FM decision.

PCIF n PCSF no dividdns yet, want to try?
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hmm... no idea how to evaluate it. The return much lower than real estate. yet, the NAV not really yummy ~ China is the next potential meat. China currently will go down trend ? India is the coming next. Indonesia also not bad ~

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what is the alpha, beta and R-square at modern statistic ?
beta is the risk ??
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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Aug 15 2011, 12:01 AM)
you will get the answer if u google it.
I remember another forumer, Xuzen already explained it b4.
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huh ? when Xuzen already explained it ?
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QUOTE(KyoX @ Aug 15 2011, 09:53 PM)
which of the fund more invest in agricultural company?
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reit ?
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post Aug 20 2011, 08:50 PM

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waiting another bank bankrupt ? Currently some low profile fund give dividend, almost time to swallow at even lower price ~
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Mind not yet ...
one is Bond, MYR and equity ~ no idea see ~
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by the way, how is the return of bond ? Switch to bond and it's enough to cover ur SC when the time need to switch back to equity?
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QUOTE(David83 @ Aug 21 2011, 10:14 PM)
Generally higher than your FD.
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FD normal one 3.17%, 25k hv 3.4% and bla bla~
So the return is 5% ? store at gold more 1 year, it's more ? hmm.gif I think buy maxwell or Sridge better than both ?
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QUOTE(David83 @ Aug 21 2011, 10:43 PM)
Gold has an unexceptional return but not sure if the momentum is there to go on. Current gold price is relatively high at 1852.20 USD per oz. It may or may not reach 2000 USD per oz! Nobody knows and it depends on the US and Europe economic and financial crisis.
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but if keep the gold after all the issue gone, then it more profit than FD ?
may be tomorrow Gold price start drop lo ~

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