Hello... I am looking to buy an upright piano for myself (adult beginner) and went to look at Young Chang Y131N1-BP, a 131cm costing around RM14k, also a Weber W131-BP at about RM16k.

a beginner here and buying one to learn so not too sure about these pianos. I read about listening for tones la, key touch la, etc... but seriously, as a beginner I cant really trust my judgement on such things. I intend to get a friend to go look see with me before I finally bite the bullet, but I need to shortlist to a few first and there is really not much info online regarding these two.

Any suggestions at all is greatly appreciated.

Thanks

y not get a used piano??

14k

piano so expensive? only rich ppl can afford learn.. how about get electronice version wich is cheaper as a start? no difference right?

2nd hand piano will do because it still can sound nicely. If I am not mistake, you can get a 2nd hand piano at around 8k. Don't waste your money. Young Chang is Korean brand right?

This post has been edited by christellia: Jan 17 2010, 12:52 AM

yup. its korean. and i am open to suggestions as i said and 2nd can be a valid option for me too, i only went into the showroom to survey first.

but anything to say about these units?

............. hard decision right ...

Why dont you start from keyboard 1st ? Casio or Yamaha should be a good choice .. Few years later only buy a piano

xMika: i got a casio px series actually, but i am taking this seriously and decided its time to bite the bullet

well... i am also open to any secondhands.

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Added on January 17, 2010, 5:12 pmanyway, i asked around and am lowering my budget to 5k. still looking thou

This post has been edited by Karenalvin: Jan 17 2010, 05:12 PM

young chang piano is just one of the few piano brands that is available in the market. you should keep your option open for now and narrow down the choice of piano based on your budget. good pianos can be very very expensive however, not everybody can buy one. some other brands which you may want to consider would be as follows:- yamaha (indonesia/japan/china), kawai (china/indonesia/japan), wagner (czech republic, china), hailun (china), bosendorfer (austria), petrof (czech republic), weinbach (czech republic/china), challen (indonesia/china), c.steinbert (indonesian/china), samick (indonesia/korea), steinway (germany), boston (japan/indonesia), essex (china). few of the pianos listed might exceed ur budget but not to worry. there is no harm of trying those expensive one 2 and compare with mid-level quality instruments. there is surely a big different in tone and touch. tone - sustain qualities, projection of tone, clearity, full bass, tonal colours & many more. touch - sensitivity in controling the dynamics and so on.

unless u know wat you are really buying, you should stay away from used pianos, particularly those reconditioned pianos. i always called them junk from japan, these are pianos which no longer have any quality values of being a musical instruments due to age and not worth repairing. and they are nothing but a shape of a piano with new beautiful paint on its body when they arrive here. look nice or new doesnt means it sound new. u buying an instruments it should have those musical qualities too. try the bass, is almost dead like thubby sound, try the upper register it doesnt ring long enough. compare the tenor the sustaining power is weak. well if u walk into a shop that is all reconditioned pianos you most problably wont hear the different becoz they are all the same. and next reconditioned pianos are at least 30 + years average. things deteriote this include piano. (yes, the older the piano is the more repairs are needed, and NO sound wont get better when it ages it get worst instead, the soundboard collapse becoming flat, bridge's upper and side bearing weaken because of compression set coz by humidity) as the piano ages wood materials, steels wire, felts, clothe and other organic materials deteriote and wear off. unless these materials are change having a beautiful finishing means nothing. other important components suchas pinblock, soundbaord, bridge & etc also deteriote due to humidity and age. any of these that is not working properly or is damage (some parts are visible and some are not) will have lack of power, no tonal colour, weak sustain & etc. and replacing major components are very expensive and it does not justify the cost for reconditinoed dealers to spend since they will not be able to sell at a price to cover the replacement cost and piano cost. importantly, japanese have many times redesigned their pianos over the last few decades to be better. if u pro-japanese products, then dont think that buying a reconditioned pianos that have the same name on the piano is the same as the newer model. NO, the earlier models are generally much much better designed then its predecessor.

anyways my suggestion is to bring along a friend who plays (if you dont). play as many pianos as you can. visit the same shop over again and again. and listen for yourself the tone (imagine a singer being the piano singing a song for you). they are different. just like u know what type of music u like to listen and what type of music u dont... it is not that difficult to listen and choose a piano based on ur preference.... have fun. cheers...

This post has been edited by jhp: Jan 19 2010, 12:16 PM

karenalvin...Rm14k is crazy to buy a piano for a beginner. Unless you are advanced grade then different la.

I can recommend you an Importer for Pianos who can give you a lower price. PM if you interested. I dont get anything from this.

if you refering to new pianos, generally, entry level pianos are starting from RM10K onwards and mostly it will fall within the categories of pianos made in China or Indonesia. new pianos, better quality korean piano, will start from RM 20K+ and fully imported from korea. new pianos, better quality japanese piano, will start from RM 30K+ and fully imported from Japan. New pianos, high performance quality pianos, will start from RM 50K onwards. and most of these pianos are fully imported from europe. N yes they r all uprights. depending on ur budget and requirement (as in ur needs in tone and touch) frankly to certain ppl RM 30K+ piano can be a beginner piano wherelse to other maybe RM 10K would also be fine. every purchase is determine by how much u can spend. just like car. dont know if there is a beginner car! have fun

Hi, I think Kawaii is more than enough for you. If you plan to learn till very advance level, of course you need to get a good piano for urself. Be very very careful when you'r purchasing your piano. It's not few hundred ringgit but thousands. There are many (too many) company selling so called new piano but its actually second hand piano.
Its better for you to bring someone knws piano much better to go with you.

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Added on January 20, 2010, 3:14 pmu may PM me if you want to. I am a piano teacher at Subang area =)

This post has been edited by robbylover89: Jan 20 2010, 03:14 PM

wow.. if this is true i advice to lodge a police report. u can even sue the company immediately... for misrepresentation and misinformation...

I would suggest you get a 2nd hand piano , since you are a beginner , its no way for you to know the quality of the piano unless you have a few years experience listen to it.

Basically the difference of a good piano and a sucky one , is that the good one has a firm touch , not too easily to be pressed , and the sound produced is deep , while the bad ones basically has a really light touch , while the sound produced are really high and sound terrible.

If you have money to spend , get a grand piano instead , no point wasting on upright , of course , if its affordable , a baby grand usually cost around 30k , a brand new one.

I would recommend buy a cheap one , and when you are experience , know how to differentiate the quality , go get a grand piano.

Well a good piano can develop a great interest. However if you are in a budget, i have some reconditioned secondhand piano just arrived from Japan and England. My pianos ranging from RM2,500 to RM25,000. It all looks like brand new. I do have some stocks of brand new piano. If you are still interested please email me your budget to toophat@Hotmail.com or call me at 0195568392. Thanks

Yamaha p-95 model for sale

- used for less than a year
- excellent condition (as new)
- can fit into compact car (driving a suzuki swift)
- comes with stand and pedals
- selling due to rarely used

Refer to this for the model spec :
http://m.usa.yamaha.com/products/pianos-ke...ianos/p-95.html

Price :: RM1900 (nego)

Call 011-11862828
Pick up place is in damansara perdana

Hi guys,

Anyone can recommend affordable new and use yamaha upright piano for my young kids to learn piano lesson, thanks a lot.