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TSryanlcs
post Jan 9 2010, 09:30 PM, updated 16y ago

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Hi

Does anyone know how to calculate the commission for an insurance agent? What I knew is from the premium, the agent will get the commission for the next six years, but does anyone know in actual how is the calculation?

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post Jan 9 2010, 09:36 PM

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Great Eastern Commission

1st year - 45%
2nd year - 35%
3rd year - 20%
4th year - 10%
5th year - 5%

if i am not mistaken
babychai
post Jan 10 2010, 01:57 AM

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QUOTE(MPIK @ Jan 9 2010, 09:36 PM)
Great Eastern Commission

1st year - 45%
2nd year - 35%
3rd year - 20%
4th year - 10%
5th year - 5%

if i am not mistaken
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different products different commission~
yquin1985
post Jan 10 2010, 10:38 PM

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usually traditional products only will get 35% commision, 45% for wat products?
TSryanlcs
post Jan 11 2010, 08:41 AM

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Hi

Can you give me a simple calculation of values?

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gnoy
post Feb 7 2010, 04:46 PM

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Is tat commision for selling Savings Plan?

how about AIA, anyone knows how much commisiong agent will get for selling Savings Plan?

Thanks
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post Feb 8 2010, 10:49 AM

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But some team do take more and less % from commision as a part that they train u it seems.
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post Mar 3 2010, 04:12 PM

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Investment Linked Policies = 25%
Traditional Insurance Products = 30% (or was it 35% sorry I forgot tongue.gif)

This does not include your high fringe producer bonus and other bonuses.
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post Nov 8 2010, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(MPIK @ Jan 9 2010, 09:36 PM)
Great Eastern Commission

1st year - 45%
2nd year - 35%
3rd year - 20%
4th year - 10%
5th year - 5%

if i am not mistaken
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Which means:

Premium / month: RM200
Total Purchaser: 20 person

By using the % given by you, a GE agent can gain RM4600/month??!! Wow, that's huge!!
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post Nov 8 2010, 11:19 PM

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Yes, insurance agent is a very lucrative job...
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post Nov 11 2010, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(apion007 @ Nov 9 2010, 12:15 AM)
Which means:

Premium / month: RM200
Total Purchaser: 20 person

By using the % given by you, a GE agent can gain RM4600/month??!! Wow, that's huge!!
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How do u calculate?
Let say 1st year 45%
200 x 0.45 x 20
Rm1.8k monthly
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post Nov 17 2010, 01:10 AM

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The commission structure is similar to all insurance company for the same category of product/plan as it is governed by Bank Negara.
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post Feb 10 2013, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(5614 @ Nov 17 2010, 01:10 AM)
The commission structure is similar to all insurance company for the same category of product/plan as it is governed by Bank Negara.
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Yes, the basic commission are the same for all companies, but the persistency bonus and production bonus do vary a bit.
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post Oct 16 2016, 09:27 AM

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For great eastern heard they offered pencen for all insurance agent if work more than 10 years.. is it true?
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I had a good chat with an insurance director 36yrs old (started as a salesman) and he shared a little. Under prudential (if he's not lying), the commision for 1st year is 50% and following yr cascade up to 5th yr (Its in SG btw). He even showed me his income tax to IRAS (LHDN) of 258k for 2015 so can imagine la. At his level hes relying income from downlines and newbloods + prudential salary itself.

Anyway, from his input, I was curious and put them into excel, it does show the potential income of being a kuli insurance agent. Can find below


http://www.megafileupload.com/g8wl/Basic_commision_calc.xlsx


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QUOTE(babychai @ Jan 10 2010, 01:57 AM)
different products different commission~
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post Oct 20 2016, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(ekudz @ Oct 16 2016, 09:27 AM)
For great eastern heard they offered pencen for all insurance agent if work more than 10 years.. is it true?
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It's applicable to every insurance company, as far as I know is have to work until age 60 then will be rligiblr for it.
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post Oct 20 2016, 11:40 AM

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starting next year no more commission for insurance agent?
ekudz
post Oct 20 2016, 06:21 PM

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which is better ... aia agent or great eastern agent .. based on commision and benefit
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post Oct 20 2016, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(adamhzm90 @ Oct 20 2016, 11:40 AM)
starting next year no more commission for insurance agent?
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Starting next year there will be a new distribution channel where customers can sign up for an insurance product themselves, something like self service, so there won't be any commission since no agent involved. But agents can still receive commission if customers sign up for an insurance product with the agents.
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post Oct 20 2016, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(Anderson/Darling @ Oct 20 2016, 06:28 PM)
Starting next year there will be a new distribution channel where customers can sign up for an insurance product themselves, something like self service, so there won't be any commission since no agent involved. But agents can still receive commission if customers sign up for an insurance product with the agents.
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for all insurance? self service? not so good because if self service all things we must do it ourself .. sweat.gif
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post Oct 20 2016, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(ekudz @ Oct 20 2016, 06:30 PM)
for all insurance? self service? not so good because if self service all things we must do it ourself ..  sweat.gif
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I think the beginning of next year only for a certain products. Well if self service then you might be able to save some money that's suppose to go to commission. So their charge cheaper premium maybe. I heard these from a friend who attended Malaysian insurance summit few days ago, not sure if bank negara posted the new framework already or not.
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post Oct 20 2016, 07:31 PM

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WTA

is this AIA plan good or not for medical. This for age 36

Plan takaful rm90.10.
Plan room n board rm200 sehari. Sethn claim rm125000
Oversea emergency fund rm4.1 juta.tanpa had seumur hidup
Plan terbaik rm116.60 sebln premium
Room n board rm250. Sethun claim rm150000..
Oversea emergency fund rm4.1 juta..tanpa had seumur hidup
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post Oct 20 2016, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(ekudz @ Oct 20 2016, 07:31 PM)
WTA

is this AIA plan good or not for medical. This for age 36

Plan takaful rm90.10.                       
Plan room n board rm200 sehari. Sethn claim rm125000                       
Oversea emergency fund rm4.1 juta.tanpa had seumur hidup                       
Plan terbaik rm116.60 sebln premium                       
Room n board rm250. Sethun claim rm150000..                       
Oversea emergency fund rm4.1 juta..tanpa had seumur hidup
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post Nov 14 2016, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(zephyrus9999 @ Oct 18 2016, 10:33 AM)
I had a good chat with an insurance director 36yrs old (started as a salesman) and he shared a little. Under prudential (if he's not lying), the commision for 1st year is 50% and following yr cascade up to 5th yr (Its in SG btw). He even showed me his income tax to IRAS (LHDN) of 258k for 2015 so can imagine la. At his level hes relying income from downlines and newbloods + prudential salary itself.

Anyway, from his input, I was curious and put them into excel, it does show the potential income of being a kuli insurance agent. Can find below
http://www.megafileupload.com/g8wl/Basic_commision_calc.xlsx

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Can u share that link again? i think it's broken.
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QUOTE(lyt25_1234 @ Nov 14 2016, 05:37 PM)
Can u share that link again? i think it's broken.
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lol ass megaupload, didn't know they will remove files that's not active.

if u know excel u can do it too. but a lot assumption la. create tables by year, separate into active & passive

1st year: take 50% of say a monthly rm200 premium = Rm100

2nd year: 35% of 200 = rm70

3rd yr and so on till 5th year.


Then u'll see first 2 years ur income will be crap since no passive income.

Provided u meet an average min customer / month, u'll see both ur active + passive grows till it hit a high limit
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post Nov 15 2016, 09:01 AM

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QUOTE(Anderson/Darling @ Oct 20 2016, 07:01 PM)
I think the beginning of next year only for a certain products. Well if self service then you might be able to save some money that's suppose to go to commission. So their charge cheaper premium maybe. I heard these from a friend who attended Malaysian insurance summit few days ago, not sure if bank negara posted the new framework already or not.
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With this self-service, what happens when comes to claiming? Cuz now we are not tie to the agent that we bought the policy...if hospitalize, there will be no agent come to help you process the claim.

So how do we do it? Ask family members ?
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post Nov 15 2016, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(lyt25_1234 @ Nov 15 2016, 09:01 AM)
With this self-service, what happens when comes to claiming? Cuz now we are not tie to the agent that we bought the policy...if hospitalize, there will be no agent come to help you process the claim.

So how do we do it? Ask family members ?
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Claim, walk in to the HQ and ask customer service. biggrin.gif

Anyway the products available for walk in are term insurance.
It works like renting a policy for a duration.
Life 100K term for 10 years.
Once get departure ticket to heaven* within that 10 insured period, you will get the 100K... devil.gif

This post has been edited by AnnaHui: Nov 15 2016, 10:07 AM
Anderson/Darling
post Nov 20 2016, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(lyt25_1234 @ Nov 15 2016, 09:01 AM)
With this self-service, what happens when comes to claiming? Cuz now we are not tie to the agent that we bought the policy...if hospitalize, there will be no agent come to help you process the claim.

So how do we do it? Ask family members ?
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Yes that's the downside, but maybe insurance company will form a team that focus on handling customers that opt for self service. We will know when they launch the product. smile.gif
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QUOTE(MPIK @ Jan 9 2010, 09:36 PM)
Great Eastern Commission

1st year - 45%
2nd year - 35%
3rd year - 20%
4th year - 10%
5th year - 5%

if i am not mistaken
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if ilp medical card?
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post Mar 4 2017, 05:48 AM

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QUOTE(PLOUFFLE @ Feb 22 2017, 02:57 PM)
if ilp medical card?
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40%
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40%
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1 year take????

 

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