Me, valtai30 , planning to get a 42" Full HD LCD for my HTPC at home. Any recommendation? Any brands or model would be highly appreciated. But dun recommend the top high end model, ok? Dun have such $$$ to buy..... budget around RM3K - RM4.5K. Thanks in advance!!!

Sharp A77

r u using this LCD? nice or not??

I've seen samsung LEDLCD series 7&8....from my eyes...LEDLCD TV are what LCD TV are suppose to be....err..but not for the price of course.

I feel myself very attracted to LEDLCD TV nowadays...dunno why...maybe too much of watching plasma and wash out colors of LCD TV

i know LED TV would be better.... but can get it (42") within my budget or not? if it's within my budget, of course i'll go for LED TV lol.... anyway, how much is Samsung series 7 & 8 huh??

i hv A77 LCD..its very very nice...100Hz..Full HD..it suits your budget

izzit RM3399 from legend as mentioned in another thread?

lets start with the LEDLCD Samsung Series 6....40inch abt RM6899..

Why wont get a 40 in Sharp LED LCD tv for RM4300 from our lw foreummer Kelvin. At first i wouldnt believe the price but its true, moreover i got it for RM5000, that is only 1 month plus ago

Panasonic TH-L42S10K LCD. Entry level. RM2999 at Best Denki KLCC. Once calibrated, pretty good picture.


fuad

is this the cheapest 42" full hd lcd?

I can't really say for sure since I'm not looking to buy. But the big electronic companies are pushing big before CNY to get sales up and to get rid of old stock. If you're price sensitive, buy the cheapest and best for your price range. If you're not, then the CNY push won't matter. But don't let the push rush you into buying something you'll regret.


fuad

Someone in another similar thread (Duplicated lah ni) managed to buy the Panny for RM2499 only from Tesco..but promotion ended last week.

errr...... forget about Sammy lar..... huhuhuh....

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Added on January 10, 2010, 12:11 pmwoot..... this one looks good and within my budget..... can give me the model of this LED LVD TV? and how to contact Kelvin? gonna contact him for more details......

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Added on January 10, 2010, 12:11 pmdamn cheap.

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Added on January 10, 2010, 12:12 pmmost probably the cheapest 42" Full HD LCD atm.....

This post has been edited by valtai30: Jan 10 2010, 12:12 PM

Hmm I got this SMS from SenHeng saying that LG-42PQ10R is selling at RM 2399 (RCP RM 2799) Promotion ends 31st Jan 2010

thanks for your info, but i'm looking for LCD panel, coz my living room always bright bright de..... not suitable to get plasma.... but it's a nice deal though....

LG 42LH50 42 inch LCD, anti glare screen and 200Mhz true motion.

RM3099 at Sen Heng

Good review here http://reviews.lcdtvbuyingguide.com/lcdtvr...h55-review.html

But better have a look yourself and trust your own eye.

@Dickong - how to contact kelvin that you mention?

I also planning to buy 42" Full HD LCD with 100Mhz

Sharp A77 - meet this requirement, the only thing without USB and SD slot ( correct me if i'm wrong ). But if you got everything in HDMI, u don't need USB and SD.( Salesman told me ). USB only for JPG or MP3, while SD slot for viewing JPG, i'm not sure if they can play video in the SD card/USB or not. But it will not play HD format for USB or SD.
The SD card slot is good if only you need fast playback JPG, and convenience. Everything just control using TV remote control.

So the Toshiba can do this job, not much different in price.

Toshiba 42ZV600 - i'm interested in this. Full HD, 200Mhz

LG - some of the LG LCD TV "outlook" very ugly. The design look special but actually very fast out-dated. Just my view.

Got my L42S10K for RM2499 with 3 years Panasonic standard warranty last week (register online) - to me Panasonic gives more natural picture - dont believe all those color management, whatever technology thingy - as long as the skin tone of the actors is what it should be and the picture is sharp then thats the best way to watch - I find the other brands depend on a lot of confusing terms to hide the fact that a picture should be as close to natural as it can be.

Look for the forerunner name by KELVINC66.

after 1 week of researches and eyes washing........ comes out with these models which meet my requirements and this is final round of advise needed.....

1) Sharp LC-42A77M
2) Toshiba 42ZV600
3) LG 42LH70YR

please leave your votes guys........ all of these Full HD LCDs is ranged in RM3399 - RM3699. Please help me decide/ give your valuable comments. TQ!

Sharp is never in my list because everytime when I look at it, I feel it has very dull PQ compared to other model, went to few shops also the same.

Toshiba has very good PQ but if you are very particular about the panel reflection just like those in Plasma TV, then this could be out of the list because it is using glare panel but the advantage of this is it could boast very good brightness and contrast level to make the PQ very nice and eye catching

LG's PQ not bad when looking at it in the shop but not sure about its reliability, maybe just my perception on the brand


You may want to compare the features offered in these 3 models

Thanks valtai30 for opening this thread.

I am in the same situation with you now. And i also m looking at this 3 models haha because its cheap and function is top.

For me, from the 3 models, maybe i'll go for SHARP because i m a fan of this brand. Well i also not sure which 1 looks better in terms of the outlook and also the images.

Tell me which 1 u bought, i might buy the same 1.

Then, it'll be great if can get 0% installment by creditcard with 0% surcharge.


Update here ya?

haha...... really scatching my hair for almost a month...... now i'm decided to get the Toshiba-42ZV600...... actually already ordered the LCD..... reaching my house around Wednesday.... and now building my HTPC.....

flora02, i think you better get Toshiba. coz after reading and searching reviews....... finally decided to get the 42ZV600...... maybe u can go wash ur eyes at any electronic shops and compare which one to choose, like me..... went to SenQ and HSL just now, but ofcourse not buying from them lar....... quite expensive at chainstore...... maybe u can get nice price from online dealer here.... kevin maybe......

glad to hear you finally ordered the Toshiba. I'm still waiting until end of this month/beginning next month to buy it also. ( Toshiba 42ZV600E of course )
Just survey for the price last week, price is RM3500 cheapest paying cash or RM3700 12/months installment. Or even 24 months, but RM3900++....

yeah~ nice choice bro...... i'm now looking forward for its delivery this "The Day after Tomorrow"!! Hahahaha!! Definitely gonna try The Day After Tomorrow BD this Wednesday!!!!1 Good luck bro!! Peace!!

samsung la..better

sorry for hurting you bro...... sammy never being in my list...... rather get Sony than Sammy..... i oso dunno why, maybe it's PQ too..... not realistic gua??? just like the PQ lor...... just my own opinion, dunno listen to my non-sense, ok?

why pay more for comparable quality

HI where did you buy your LCD TV .. seems quite cheap for 42 Full HD LCD //

Toshiba, anyone?

Me......42ZV600........ but not deliver yet..... can't wait to test with my newly built HTPC for BD playback.....

Wao...flagship....

Can't afford ..only can afford RV series??
How much u get that mind to PM me..

This post has been edited by eddycmc: Jan 20 2010, 05:44 PM

Tested my 42ZV600 yesterday....... superb PQ (except Astro) and normal AQ..... but overall i can say it's up to my expectation!! Tested with BD playback, gaming (Dirt 2)..... it's awesome, that's why they call it a flagship model of Toshiba...... really not bad..... and i'm damn happy with it......

i get it for RM3,699......

Is the PQ okay both in a dark and a bright room?

The PQ is good both in a dark and in bright room environment as Toshiba uses full glare panel to boasts good contrast level in bright room. Of course panel reflection is unavoidable with full glare type and I find it I'm quite ok with it because I'm a bit concern before I buy this tv

I'm not sure if the follwing model is the same with the 42ZV600E:

Toshiba 42ZV650U Review by CNET

The review said that it's black level is poor.

This is the same model for US with slightly higher spec compared to ours. For me the black level is good on this model but not as great like Pioneer Kuro, personally I'm happy with it unlike my previous LCD where the black is really greyish. You can read the Toshiba thread in AVS Forum below to see how they commented the CNET review compared to what they have seen the black level in this set themselves

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread....1137494&page=26

Owners' feedback will be more relevant to the normal users like us as they commented based on their own experience with the tv

This post has been edited by darenlks: Jan 21 2010, 11:29 PM

Yes, sometimes, the owners' feedback is more relevant because the review sites can be very fussy, since they have played with plenty of high-end and expensive stuffs. As for me, a 10-20% improvement just can't justify a 50-100% price premium, in the case of LED-LCDs. It's just that I have to be sure that certain well-known LCD annoyances such as very poor blackness and very poor handling of motion blur is not existent in the TV that I am going to buy.

The best is still see it with your own eyes beside reading the reviews and feedbacks

true as well.. for me, I normally read up on reviews first, shortlist a few models then check it out with my own eyes

like what darenlks said, the PQ is good in both bright and dark room..... and i can't even notice the reflection of the glossy panel..... and the black level is much more better than LG and Sharp Full HD.....
overall, i'm very satisfied with it's PQ and it's design, simple and stylish.......and of course nice bang for our bucks!!!!

WOW nice1 valtai30,


BTW today's newpapers about panasonic 42"LCD + 32" LCD = RM4499

u think its worth?
but after looking at how happy ure i will most probably go for toshiba, u buy from kelvinc66?

i also go for Toshiba 42ZV600E.
Will buy it sure before Chinese New Year.
Price drop a bit, RM3500 cash or RM36++ 12 /month installment , RM37++ for 24month installment.
Still consider 1 year or 2 years....

Actually, i also looking at this model 42ZV600E, but do you compare it before with the sharp L40A77M model? Any comment? Which one is better? Both running almost the same price.

yes, almost same price, i think Sharp a bit cheaper. The only thing is Sharp don't have is no USB port. i think is 42" also, not 40".
Only got 3 HDMI.

USB vs No USB
200Mhz vs 100/120Mhz
4 HDMI vs 3 HDMI
SD slot vs ??

More to go

Bigger speakers + 30W woofer
14 bit processing and color gradation
Dolby Volume to stablise sound level
Audissey EQ to deliver optimum and clear sound
Flagship model
Can display with 24, 25, 30, 50, 60 Hz 1080p signal via HDMI (display those videos or movies with 24, 25 and 30 fps in its original frame rate)
Resolution+ to upscale and improve PQ of the SD source
HDMI Instaport (switch screen to another HDMI port in 1 sec !)
AutoView mode for energy saving
PC input via HDMI connection

This post has been edited by darenlks: Jan 22 2010, 03:55 PM

i think Toshiba got 1 year all risk insurance, right?
If stolen also can cover?
Just asking because my office just lost 6 monitor & 2 PC few days ago.
Any place can happen. So I don't want to put expensive thing in my house. So TV will be most expensive beside of cash,emas if they found. Need to add security system, but if cover by Toshiba, better than nothing.

Yes, 2 years general warranty with first year all risk insurance

if you want 2 LCDs, then get the panasonic.... but if you want excellent PQ..... Toshiba is your choice..... and i get it from 1 of retail shop at my place..... a bit pricey compare to KL but still acceptable.

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Added on January 23, 2010, 7:00 pmbro, the seller here gave me 3 years warranty leh....... dunno it's real or not??? he said he personally gave me the 3rd year warranty.......

This post has been edited by valtai30: Jan 23 2010, 07:00 PM

Is RZ600 having 200Mhz ? seem not able to find the information ??

i'm also not sure..... but some forumer did mentioned it's 200mhz....... i dunno wor.....

42ZV600E Info: http://www.toshiba.com.my/product/product_...ductid=42ZV600E
ClearScan 200: http://www.regza-asia.com/technology/techn...200.asp?cat=sc2

thanks bro for the info.... i didn't noticed it has 200mhz clear scan....... nice!!!

am actually deciding whether which 42" model to buy....my initial choice was Sony, samsung, sharp
now, not sure..and never thought of Toshiba :hmm:

After reading you guys feedback, i might consider......

must go and see and make comparison.

definitely have to wash ur eyes personally...... but dun forget to look for this model ooo........ just compare them which one ngam ur taste.......

Is LG 42LH50 so cheap ? I found that here sell arounf rm4.2k . And I go for senheng , but they tell me this is discontinued stock and it is very old stock for now .

Good for you bro . Make sure the seller stated 3 years warranty in your receipt for proof

This post has been edited by darenlks: Jan 30 2010, 02:04 PM

does anyone using 40/42 incher LCD TV mainly for PC ? FPS Gaming specificly.

Can VGA card operate @1920x1080 with 100-240Hz refresh rate, I remember running 1152x864@100Hz on a CRT back then, but dunno on an LCD since most monitors have 60Hz. (using a GeForce GTX285 2Gb).

What LCD TV in 40/42" size have the following :
- Full HD
- 100Hz+ refresh rate
- 2 to 5 ms fast response time
- 10 bit panel

just a passing thought, I'm wondering why LCD monitor still exist while LCD TV's with much more niceties are getting cheaper nowadays and much BIGGER.

and btw what ms for an LCD display that's tolerable for the lag in fps gaming, which require fast response. I read some sensitive gamers would say just stick to CRT which has zero ms lag lol, but CRT is no more.
I'm using a 6ms response time monitor as of now (dell wfp-hc 2407), the lag is not noticable but you know it's there especially after trying to play the same game on a CRT monitor. Hope the next LCD TV I pick will have faster response in that matter.

tks in advance for any infos.

This post has been edited by Zeld4: Feb 1 2010, 07:42 PM

The LCD itself can adapt to 60Hz matching the refresh rate from your VGA card, so not an issue

Well I guess not all people will connect their PC to LCD TV so the market for LCD monitors is still relevant

You will found some LCD TVs do offer the Game Mode to specifically to address the lag like the Toshiba ZV series I'm currently using do a very good job in eliminating the input lag with its Game Mode option as the TV will bypass the unnecessary complicated image processings in order to output the game image directly from the player thus reducing the delay. I tested and found the controlling of the game are now more accurate and easier to maneuver

oh, I thought game mode in LCDs were only to show better colors suitable for gaming instead of a normal mode, or 'desktop mode' like on a PC display, just for example.

about refresh rate, can't we get 100Hz if using LCD TVs for PC display ? Like on CRT monitors, they have refresh rate selection and lower res usually has higher refresh rate, but we can use any refresh rate we like
I thought LCD TVs work the same way, haven't tried it though since I don't have a 100hz capable LCD TV yet.

Game Mode is not meant for better color display but to reduce the input lag and complete image display without any loss pixels which are the issues well known in LCD TVs

For the refresh rate, the limitation is on your VGA card and not the LCD TV. Whatever refresh rate input by your PC, the LCD will match it and output accordingly, otherwise you may have flickering or picture stuttering issue on your LCD TV display. There is no such selection of refresh rate in LCD TV settings If I'm not mistaken because signal reception has been automated to accomodate the input signal.

Hello folks,

I'm looking for the cheapest and yet a well known brand 42" Full HD LCD TV. I have not allocated any budget but i guess its gonna be a tight one. Will make some decisions after getting some opinions from you experts out there. Kindly advise.

Thanks!

i suggest you put yur budget here...
and me suggest RM2500....

DBKL will be here soon for cleaning

You want cheapest n well know brand or branded n how cheap is cheap you want.

ya la..put budget...if u budget 5k..itss better..haha

there is no DBKL in here..
so no worry

Toshiba 42ZV600E...... 42" Full HD... Toshiba flagship model.... RM3.5K ~ RM3.7K, depends.....

we already have one similar topic here:
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1287980

Yeah DBKL merged liao

eh..I tot DBKL is off today

thanks to DBKL , yeah~ better merged.... coz my problem solved... now come to LYL2009.....

@valtai30 : how does your toshiba tv perform on displaying SD content such as Nintendo Wii ? I know jaggies appearance can't be eliminated 100% especially when dealing with SD content, but is it acceptable ? and about the 100Hz refresh rate, do you able to display PC content in 100Hz refresh rate, and is it recognized in windows OS ?



@anyone : between LG 42LH70YR and Samsung 40B650 , which one will you ppl pick ?
it's very hard to decide, while 40B650 has better upscaling for SD content (according to a review site), but it has higher response time (4ms cmiiw) than 42LH70YR which has 2.4ms with IPS panel that's well-known for its quality (i read a lot of positive comments about IPS panel on some forums, and Apple 20" monitor which I happened to have really looks great with S-IPS panel, dunno if they're the same panels i'm talking about though, but it has the same IPS word on it, lol). Size wise, 42LH70YR is definitely bigger and the price is cheaper. Both LCD TVs also have feature for playing divx/mkv movies with subtitle via usb.

what I expect as upgrades from my current Dell 2407-wfp-hc monitor are :
- bigger size than 24", both qualified
- higher refresh rate than 60hz, both having 100hz
- lower response time, LG 2.4ms, Samsung 4ms, both qualified.
- can play SD content well, for TV broadcast and Nintendo Wii console, this one I'm not sure, but Samsung 40B650 has very positive review for its upscaling capability
- no noticeable lags especially for playing PC games, FPS mostly. This one not sure oso, but both has lower response time than 6ms my current LCD monitor has.

or if anyone owns or has the same interest on any of the LCD TV I mentioned above please help with review or personal opinion


tks.




* regarding Refresh Rates, I wonder why 100/120Hz or even 200/240Hz is very important now and kinda feel like being put on a pedestal as a selling point, but for BD/movies it's advised to set it off unless watching sports channel, which I think not everyone like it (sorry, no offense for sports channel lover, hehe). What I currently understand about refresh rates is the less the number it is at higher resolution, flickering will occur, at least that's what I experienced back then when CRT is all around. But never notice any flicker for an LCD even at 1920x1200 res @60hz , so, what gives ?

This post has been edited by Zeld4: Feb 3 2010, 03:28 AM

Just get Toshiba 42ZV600E, superb picture quality and tried it with Astro byond, unbeatable picture. Actually I compared one by one in my friend electrical shop near USJ, first he recommended me the Toshiba, but in my heart, I like the Sony Bravia, after comparison, the Toshiba is just awesome with such price, even Sony Bravia with higher price also lost in term of picture quality, if you guys still unable to decide, just choose this LCD, you won't regret.

Absolutely right as I've been enjoying awesome PQ with my Astro Byond and HD movies everyday . At first I was comparing with other LCD TVs displayed next to this model like Philips, Sony and Sharp in the shop and eventually the winner is Toshiba which is big bang for my bucks

This TOSHIBA 42ZV600E is 100Hz?

i dont think so...

http://www.toshiba.com.my/product/product_...ductid=42ZV600E

Actually the panel for this model is true 100Hz but it creates the 200Hz effect using its backlight scanning technology, that's y it is called ClearScan 200

ohh,i c...

oooppsss...sory

the 42ZV600E

RRP (Recommended Retail Price)
Peninsular Malaysia: RM 4699.00

Where can get it cheaper?

cash, i can recommend this 2.
RM3460
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f=11&t=619012&st=0

RM3480
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1082455&hl=



i am still wait my bonus, will buy it within these few days...go for 12 months installment, will be higher price....

I also just placed an order for toshiba regza zv600. Saw it with my own eyes the quality of the pic. Better thn sharp which is my previous choice. Almost on par wh samsung 6 series. But cant beat regza price. Cant wait for its arrival tomorrow. Thnks to u guys for this thread. Im now more confident wh my decision.

i bought panasonic L42s10
100% satisfied

What is the price you got?

Good choice bro, you won't regret

L42S10K is selling for RM2899 at tesco today.
better go get em before the promo ends. price are lowered yesterday. should end by tomorrow.

i bought rm2699 at ongking.. hlk also can get that price..
onking and hlk fighting for best price.. u should compare both..

rm2699 is cheap.
both website din stated this price.

anyw i got cheaper than this~

how much did you get yours for?
mind to share the location?

Just bought Toshiba 42ZV600E today. Can't wait anymore.
No regret. Work well with my Astro byond. ESPN HD is perfect.
Superb sound quality.

This post has been edited by karheng: Feb 7 2010, 06:54 PM

Congrats bro

Hi guys, I'm torn between 42ZV600E and 42RV600E, don't know which one to decide!

For those of you who had a chance to compare them side by side, is there a significant difference in picture quality? The price of ZV is about 25% premium compared to RV, is it worth it?

I'm going to connect a HTPC to the TV and it will have mixed usage: watching 480/720/1080p contents from PC, surf net, watch normal TV channel (not astro... yet), and play Wii. Genarally I watch very little sports programme.

From my research so far I came out with these comparison:

14-bit vs 10-bit: Isn't 10-bit good enough? Can see any improvement by going up to 14-bit? By bare eyes of course

Resolution+: I know this one sure got improvement, but without this feature is SD picture really bad? Can I live without it?

Clearscan 200: This is only important while watching football right? Other content should be little to no difference? Again can I live without it?

Regza Woofer: I know I can live without this because I have external sound system when I need the bass

Full glare panel vs matte panel: Dunno if it's a good thing. Increases contrast and black level, but at certain angle it becomes a dark mirror while matte panel have no such problem... I guess

Both models actually have the same contrast ratio spec (50000:1) but what I don't know is the actual contrast seen by bare eyes will be largely improved by the glossy vs matte panel or not

Swivel stand vs fixed stand: Doesn't matter for me as I'll be mounting it on a wall anyway

Other thing I noticed is power consumption of ZV is higher at 195W compared to RV at 145W (a lot man) maybe due to the 14-bit 200Hz processing?

Here at Penang, all the shops are displaying RV only, I can't find a single shop displaying ZV, all need to special order so I can't make direct comparison myself. Anybody actually seen these two models side by side before? Would be nice if can comment here

Thanks!

wow...some1 has 2 give u a lot of explanation wor...

but not me la,i dunno wor...

I owned the ZV series and have seen the RV series in store, the PQ is nicer in ZV series to my observation


14 bit vs 10 bit : There is definitely a difference in terms of much higher color gradation which produce smoother picture

Resolution+ : If you seen the SD picture without this feature and happy with it then you are good with it. This features will help to enhance the SD PQ

Clearscan 200 : Not really, there is also a difference with other content like action packed movies and there is the option to switch it off in user menu

Regza Woofer : You have your answer clearly stated

Full Glare Panel vs matte panel : As your mentioned both have 50000:1 contrast ratio, the full glare panel does make the difference in terms of better constrast and brightness level by viewing it with your bare eyes.

I was also worry about the reflection from the full glare panel at first and found out it is not that bothering at all when watching it at home under very bright environment (with windows and sliding door in my living area) and it could still produce a very good contrast level for nice PQ.

Power consumption : With higher spec offered, the power consumption will be higher but being the fact that all are under 200W, you won't really see much different in your monthly electricity bill


Why settle for medium range model if you have the budget to go for their latest flagship ZV series