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post Feb 5 2010, 08:19 PM

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the 42ZV600E

RRP (Recommended Retail Price)
Peninsular Malaysia: RM 4699.00

Where can get it cheaper?
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post Feb 5 2010, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Feb 5 2010, 08:19 PM)
the 42ZV600E

RRP (Recommended Retail Price)
  Peninsular Malaysia: RM 4699.00

Where can get it cheaper?
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cash, i can recommend this 2.
RM3460
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f=11&t=619012&st=0

RM3480
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1082455&hl=



i am still wait my bonus, will buy it within these few days...go for 12 months installment, will be higher price....
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I also just placed an order for toshiba regza zv600. Saw it with my own eyes the quality of the pic. Better thn sharp which is my previous choice. Almost on par wh samsung 6 series. But cant beat regza price. Cant wait for its arrival tomorrow. Thnks to u guys for this thread. Im now more confident wh my decision.
mmusic08
post Feb 6 2010, 09:06 AM

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i bought panasonic L42s10
100% satisfied
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post Feb 6 2010, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(mmusic08 @ Feb 6 2010, 09:06 AM)
i bought panasonic L42s10
100% satisfied
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What is the price you got?
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post Feb 6 2010, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(izwan810 @ Feb 6 2010, 12:52 AM)
I also just placed an order for toshiba regza zv600. Saw it with my own eyes the quality of the pic. Better thn sharp which is my previous choice. Almost on par wh samsung 6 series. But cant beat regza price. Cant wait for its arrival tomorrow. Thnks to u guys for this thread. Im now more confident wh my decision.
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Good choice bro, you won't regret wink.gif
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post Feb 6 2010, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(mmusic08 @ Feb 6 2010, 09:06 AM)
i bought panasonic L42s10
100% satisfied
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L42S10K is selling for RM2899 at tesco today.
better go get em before the promo ends. price are lowered yesterday. should end by tomorrow.
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post Feb 6 2010, 08:30 PM

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i bought rm2699 at ongking.. hlk also can get that price..
onking and hlk fighting for best price.. u should compare both..
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post Feb 7 2010, 11:42 AM

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rm2699 is cheap.
both website din stated this price.

anyw i got cheaper than this~
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post Feb 7 2010, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(mac.tay @ Feb 7 2010, 11:42 AM)
rm2699 is cheap.
both website din stated this price.

anyw i got cheaper than this~
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how much did you get yours for?
mind to share the location?
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post Feb 7 2010, 06:54 PM

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Just bought Toshiba 42ZV600E today. Can't wait anymore.
No regret. Work well with my Astro byond. ESPN HD is perfect.
Superb sound quality.

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post Feb 7 2010, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(karheng @ Feb 7 2010, 06:54 PM)
Just bought Toshiba 42ZV600E today. Can't wait anymore.
No regret. Work well with my Astro byond. ESPN HD is perfect.
Superb sound quality.
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Congrats bro rclxms.gif
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post Feb 7 2010, 11:42 PM

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Hi guys, I'm torn between 42ZV600E and 42RV600E, don't know which one to decide!

For those of you who had a chance to compare them side by side, is there a significant difference in picture quality? The price of ZV is about 25% premium compared to RV, is it worth it?

I'm going to connect a HTPC to the TV and it will have mixed usage: watching 480/720/1080p contents from PC, surf net, watch normal TV channel (not astro... yet), and play Wii. Genarally I watch very little sports programme.

From my research so far I came out with these comparison:

14-bit vs 10-bit: Isn't 10-bit good enough? Can see any improvement by going up to 14-bit? By bare eyes of course shocking.gif

Resolution+: I know this one sure got improvement, but without this feature is SD picture really bad? Can I live without it?

Clearscan 200: This is only important while watching football right? Other content should be little to no difference? Again can I live without it?

Regza Woofer: I know I can live without this because I have external sound system when I need the bass nod.gif

Full glare panel vs matte panel: Dunno if it's a good thing. Increases contrast and black level, but at certain angle it becomes a dark mirror doh.gif while matte panel have no such problem... I guess

Both models actually have the same contrast ratio spec (50000:1) but what I don't know is the actual contrast seen by bare eyes will be largely improved by the glossy vs matte panel or not hmm.gif

Swivel stand vs fixed stand: Doesn't matter for me as I'll be mounting it on a wall anyway rclxm9.gif

Other thing I noticed is power consumption of ZV is higher at 195W compared to RV at 145W (a lot man) maybe due to the 14-bit 200Hz processing?

Here at Penang, all the shops are displaying RV only, I can't find a single shop displaying ZV, all need to special order rclxub.gif so I can't make direct comparison myself. Anybody actually seen these two models side by side before? Would be nice if can comment here notworthy.gif

Thanks!
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QUOTE(Bart-man @ Feb 7 2010, 11:42 PM)
Hi guys, I'm torn between 42ZV600E and 42RV600E, don't know which one to decide!

For those of you who had a chance to compare them side by side, is there a significant difference in picture quality? The price of ZV is about 25% premium compared to RV, is it worth it?

I'm going to connect a HTPC to the TV and it will have mixed usage: watching 480/720/1080p contents from PC, surf net, watch normal TV channel (not astro... yet), and play Wii. Genarally I watch very little sports programme.

From my research so far I came out with these comparison:

14-bit vs 10-bit: Isn't 10-bit good enough? Can see any improvement by going up to 14-bit? By bare eyes of course  shocking.gif

Resolution+: I know this one sure got improvement, but without this feature is SD picture really bad? Can I live without it?

Clearscan 200: This is only important while watching football right? Other content should be little to no difference? Again can I live without it?

Regza Woofer: I know I can live without this because I have external sound system when I need the bass  nod.gif

Full glare panel vs matte panel: Dunno if it's a good thing. Increases contrast and black level, but at certain angle it becomes a dark mirror  doh.gif while matte panel have no such problem... I guess

Both models actually have the same contrast ratio spec (50000:1) but what I don't know is the actual contrast seen by bare eyes will be largely improved by the glossy vs matte panel or not  hmm.gif

Swivel stand vs fixed stand: Doesn't matter for me as I'll be mounting it on a wall anyway  rclxm9.gif

Other thing I noticed is power consumption of ZV is higher at 195W compared to RV at 145W (a lot man) maybe due to the 14-bit 200Hz processing?

Here at Penang, all the shops are displaying RV only, I can't find a single shop displaying ZV, all need to special order  rclxub.gif so I can't make direct comparison myself. Anybody actually seen these two models side by side before? Would be nice if can comment here  notworthy.gif

Thanks!
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wow...some1 has 2 give u a lot of explanation wor... rclxub.gif

but not me la,i dunno wor... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Feb 8 2010, 03:04 PM

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I owned the ZV series and have seen the RV series in store, the PQ is nicer in ZV series to my observation


14 bit vs 10 bit : There is definitely a difference in terms of much higher color gradation which produce smoother picture

Resolution+ : If you seen the SD picture without this feature and happy with it then you are good with it. This features will help to enhance the SD PQ

Clearscan 200 : Not really, there is also a difference with other content like action packed movies and there is the option to switch it off in user menu

Regza Woofer : You have your answer clearly stated

Full Glare Panel vs matte panel : As your mentioned both have 50000:1 contrast ratio, the full glare panel does make the difference in terms of better constrast and brightness level by viewing it with your bare eyes.

I was also worry about the reflection from the full glare panel at first and found out it is not that bothering at all when watching it at home under very bright environment (with windows and sliding door in my living area) and it could still produce a very good contrast level for nice PQ.

Power consumption : With higher spec offered, the power consumption will be higher but being the fact that all are under 200W, you won't really see much different in your monthly electricity bill


Why settle for medium range model if you have the budget to go for their latest flagship ZV series wink.gif


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post Feb 8 2010, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(darenlks @ Feb 8 2010, 03:04 PM)
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I owned the ZV series and have seen the RV series in store, the PQ is nicer in ZV series to my observation
14 bit vs 10 bit : There is definitely a difference in terms of much higher color gradation which produce smoother picture

Resolution+ : If you seen the SD picture without this feature and happy with it then you are good with it. This features will help to enhance the SD PQ

Clearscan 200 : Not really, there is also a difference with other content like action packed movies and there is the option to switch it off in user menu

Regza Woofer : You have your answer clearly stated

Full Glare Panel vs matte panel : As your mentioned both have 50000:1 contrast ratio, the full glare panel does make the difference in terms of better constrast and brightness level by viewing it with your bare eyes.

I was also worry about the reflection from the full glare panel at first and found out it is not that bothering at all when watching it at home under very bright environment (with windows and sliding door in my living area) and it could still produce a very good contrast level for nice PQ.

Power consumption : With higher spec offered, the power consumption will be higher but being the fact that all are under 200W, you won't really see much different in your monthly electricity bill
Why settle for medium range model if you have the budget to go for their latest flagship ZV series  wink.gif
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darenlks,

Since u have this set, can you check if under colour temperature, there is a manual setting. In the manual, it seems there is only warm, cool and something else. Is there a manual setting that allows you to access individual RGB (bias, gain, cut, drive...etc)? I ask this becoz apparently it has a full 3D CMS (each colour, red, green, blue, cyan, magenta and yellow have hue, saturation and brightness) but it does not make sense that they did not include the controls to correct white balance. Thanks
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Hi, been looking to buy an LCD/LED tv and found this thread.

What i had in mind (aiming to buy actually) is Sharp Aqous. I think it is LED.
Read a few review says LED and LCD doesnt have much different PQ over each other, just power comsumption.

Seems like everyone is recommending toshiba. anyone have tried the Aqous?
How is it fared to the toshiba?

Btw, budget is around 4-5k.

Thanks in advance.
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post Feb 8 2010, 04:22 PM

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4-5K? wish i had that budget!.
alot you cna get at that price. Samsung 6 series is nice.
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Feb 8 2010, 03:31 PM)
darenlks,

Since u have this set, can you check if under colour temperature, there is a manual setting. In the manual, it seems there is only warm, cool and something else. Is there a manual setting that allows you to access individual RGB (bias, gain, cut, drive...etc)? I ask this becoz apparently it has a full 3D CMS (each colour, red, green, blue, cyan, magenta and yellow have hue, saturation and brightness) but it does not make sense that they did not include the controls to correct white balance. Thanks
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I have a ZV set and my color temperature setting is from 1 - 10 scaler and not warm, cool and something else. It has the maual settings for RGB colors Red, Blue & Green for gain and offset adjustment beside the 3D CMS where it allow you to adjust the hue and saturation of the 6 base colors. If I set my color temperature closer to 10 (cool), it will become brighter overall and white color will be whiter compared to lower scale which is a bit yellowish and dimmer in white. Adjusting the Contrast level will also adjust the white balance of the display as well.

I've not seen any adjustment specially for white balance adjustment in my user menu. Is there any other LCD set has such settings as my previous set also didn't have such setting.

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QUOTE(darenlks @ Feb 8 2010, 04:35 PM)
I have a ZV set and my color temperature setting is from 1 - 10 scaler and not warm, cool and something else. It has the maual settings for RGB colors Red, Blue & Green for gain and offset adjustment beside the 3D CMS where it allow you to adjust the hue and saturation of the 6 base colors. If I set my color temperature closer to 10 (cool), it will become brighter overall and white color will be whiter compared to lower scale which is a bit yellowish and dimmer in white. Adjusting the Contrast level will also adjust the white balance of the display as well.

I've not seen any adjustment specially for white balance adjustment in my user menu. Is there any other LCD set has such settings as my previous set also didn't have such setting.
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The RGB gain and offset is the white balance/greyscale adjustments. Kudos to Toshiba for providing all the controls for calibration. Hopefully, when I calibrate a set for someone I can see how well they react. There are not many consumer sets that have both the greyscale and 3D CMS. Hopefully, they function well.

BTW cool whites are not accurate as per D65 standards. The correct D65 white will be slightly yellowish to ur eyes if u r used to whites that are bluish.

Contrast setting is an adjustment of luminance of the whites.



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