if the price is RM2.10, why do we have to pay more?

hmm, funny, how to implement this price structures? is every petrol station's attendant check our IC and background information before allowing us to purchase fuel?...it's very double standard la this method...i thought i would actually make the trip to come home to M'sia and work, who knows all these so-called "1Malaysia" concept is somehow bringing the nation down the drain in a way....

all the tan sris, datuk, politciians with big wallet pay market price.

So, Malaysians who are not eligible for the subsidy and also non-citizens will have to pay RM2.10 or more,” he added.

lol. tis system sucks.
Lets say i'm the owner of a petrol stat n i can just give the subsidy to whomever i want. how to chk who is entitled n who is not?
making the system will cost more than subsidising. better just have one then 2.
either u subsidised or u dun't at all

At the WCIT 2008 conference, ePetrol was demonstrating a way that fuel subsidies could be controlled and given to Malaysians only. In their implementation at that time, the petrol kiosk displays and charges the unsubsidised market price for petrol by default.

When an ePetrol-enabled MyKad is inserted, the subsidised price will be available. The petrol receipt (which I saw back at the event but for some reasons did not take pix of) shows both the unsubsidised price and the subsidy given.

Apparently ePetrol and EON Bank launched a pilot project in September last year for 250 EON Bank customers to use their MyKad to pay for fuel purchases at certain selected BHPetrol and Caltex stations. During the pilot trial, ePetrol gave the trial users a discount of 15 sen per liter up to 150 liters a month. You can probably consider the 15 sen discount effectively a test of a potential subsidy system.

ePetrol revealed at the WCIT 2008 that its system had a subsidy management system module. The module is able to identify MyKad holders entitled to fuel subsidies, manage the amount of subsidies allocated to each consumer, controlling the frequency of the subsidy provided (weekly limits, monthly limits, etc), and managing how the subsidy is provided (lump sum each month or a percentage of each purchase).

This would mean that a technical system for a MyKad-based subsidy system to be implemented has already been undergoing testing for over a year. Now one big question mark is for the government to finalise the nitty gritty details on how to determine who gets subsidies and how much subsidies they should get. The ePetrol system will be reprogrammed, implemented in all stations (this could possibly be a costly thing), and wala! You have a subsidy system set in place.

most probably is a cased based subisdy, like the 300 we get last time, according to car registration card is stated engine CC, also there is plans to use myKad to verify identity

but then again, more back-end processes, can't someone just waltz in to the petrol station, pay, pump and leave, instead of checking IC and all what's-not, and not only that, what if my French friends in Malaysia wants to pump petrol and ask me to do it instead of him? Or the car that i am driving is registered under my dad/mom/uncle/aunt/grandfather/grandmother/BF/GF/Dog's name then how to check?

how is one to apply to have it?
Every1 with valid drivers license to get? or every1 with a car/bike to get it?
Only for petrol?
How about Diesel?

Diesel is way cheaper than petrol and the price for industrial use does not include any government subsidy. Go figure.

"The ePetrol system will be reprogrammed, implemented in all stations (this could possibly be a costly thing), and wala! You have a subsidy system set in place."

can see my reply above, anyways nobody is going to give away their subsidy bro, and very likely it is limited amount say 150 liters permonth which might be enough for some, so your going to give that to your French expat friends who earn more than you?

if your dad can own 2-3 cars the assumption is he can afford the 2.10 petrol price too. your uncle aunt also won't give their subsidy to you

FYI: industrial diesel is expensive
and to my previous question: from paul tan as well

the first thing is to change the car ROAD TAX structure.

before this the reason of high roadtax for large engine capacity is the fuel subsidy.

so now i expect ther goveernment to put a common roadtax price. i dont care if i dont have petrol subsidy but i want my car road tax to be SENSIBLE!

true, but what about logistics firm then, a special company card to give them subsidy?...all in all, it's a very ma fan system, it's better that government start looking at the bigger picture overall, employee's basic salary...you have to adjust it accordingly in order for people to survive and buy basic stuff.

I remember a friend of mine gave me a small calculation regarding the pay of an average household and how they survive in M'sia....it's just that bad...

roadtax is cheap now my friend.... the insurance is not.....

800+ ringgit yearly for 2500cc is not cheap.  make it RM100 & i'll be happy.

insurance? for me the sum is bearable.

maybe going OT but change the insurance to follow the UK system. insurance is on the individual or driver not the vehicle.

800+ ringgit yearly for 2500cc is not cheap.  make it RM100 & i'll be happy.

insurance? for me the sum is bearable.

maybe going OT but change the insurance to follow the UK system. insurance is on the individual or driver not the vehicle.

Pasal la if you want to drive 2500cc... why cannot drive 1500 or 1600? If you want to drive 2500cc sangat, cough up the dough.

I drive 1600 and pay RM 75 for my road tax. Happy as a clam.

As long as my Waja 1600cc pays RM1.80 and the next person to me driving big vroom vroom pays RM2++, I don't care.

Engine CC in malaysia is also tied into the type of car the bigger the CC, the more expensive the more luxurious, so it's correct to tax big CC car

Should remove the sub completely and let the price float for all.  With that there won't be any mismanagement on he "sub" money claimed by the gov.  We will know where our hard earn moneh went....

haiz... then i kennot buy skyline and lexus LFA ady     

cheap for rm800 per year... u pay ur car installment moar than rm800/month right?

Pasal la if you want to drive 2500cc... why cannot drive 1500 or 1600? If you want to drive 2500cc sangat, cough up the dough.

I drive 1600 and pay RM 75 for my road tax. Happy as a clam.

As long as my Waja 1600cc pays RM1.80 and the next person to me driving big vroom vroom pays RM2++, I don't care.

yes, i cough up the doe to drive a 2500cc vehicle in paying the monthly installment, roadtax & insurance.
i dont mind the subsidy @ paying RM1.80 for those who deserve it. hey who dont want subsidy right.

the government  states that larger engine capacity have to pay more roadtax because the petrol is subsidized.  if the government want to reduce or abolish the subsidy then a common roadtax should be applied to all vehicle regardless or CC then it will be fair.

well thats just my opnion.

yes, i cough up the doe to drive a 2500cc vehicle in paying the monthly installment, roadtax & insurance.
i dont mind the subsidy @ paying RM1.80 for those who deserve it. hey who dont want subsidy right.

the government  states that larger engine capacity have to pay more roadtax because the petrol is subsidized.  if the government want to reduce or abolish the subsidy then a common roadtax should be applied to all vehicle regardless or CC then it will be fair.

well thats just my opnion.

malaysia is a oil producing country and yet we cannot enjoy cheap petrol and now wanna cut subsidy...

1Malaysia Boleh!

aih.. negara pengeluar petrol... sigh

Sorry, I rather use the benefits from our oil export to do something tangible than subsidizing my neighbour's BMW!!

ok, then pls list down any project that brings beneficial to rakyat so far?
i only know expensive acer computer, lancer evo police car, and many many corruptions...
with that new ePetrol implementation they still can subsidize us if they wan through mykad and no subsidize for foreigner...

well same priciple for roadtax applies, bigger CC mean more expensive, more earnings hence can pay more as well.

*if* they abolish the subsidy for petrol, then I agree with you that there should be a common road tax, but then again, abolishing subsidies from petrol is like lining up everyone that is poor to medium and putting a bullet in their head, two bullets for the poor.

So abolishing subsidies is not possible, but we can tax more for people who owns large CCs or a lot of cars.

LRT?
Almost Free Healthcare

the double rail track from penang to ipoh managed by MMC-Gamuda JV? news said they will need to increase the budget and delay completion date...
klang railway transit? until now the project have not tendered out yet... news said tender will be 2half of this year but the project have been spoken for 1 year oledi
and thats y the government is spending more that required, this is budget deficit due to poor financial management...
budget deficit occur than the last choice is to rake as much as possible from the rakyat...
lastly rakyat suffer...

Land acquisition is the no.1 problem.

It's not much about the pace of construction, but it is the land acquisition for double track.

Pasal la if you want to drive 2500cc... why cannot drive 1500 or 1600? If you want to drive 2500cc sangat, cough up the dough.

I drive 1600 and pay RM 75 for my road tax. Happy as a clam.

As long as my Waja 1600cc pays RM1.80 and the next person to me driving big vroom vroom pays RM2++, I don't care.

Engine CC in malaysia is also tied into the type of car the bigger the CC, the more expensive the more luxurious, so it's correct to tax big CC car

i see sad singaporean ppl soon

Drive kancil, but refill manyak kali...and masuk tong also.

Then go backhome tuang fuel into mercedez.

win?

Singaporeans are paying SGD1.65 for RON95 while having their average salary at SGD2000 a month.

They still have more spending power

i think they can't coz our earnings don't match, if they do the prices of things will go up too much, and gov can only take care of their own employees, the rest are working for private sector which the gov cannot force to increase salary. so these private sector will suffer instead, i also work for private sector and i don't want this to happen

U haz the win.

Btw, RM 2.10/liter is for RON95 or RON97??

Singaporeans are paying SGD1.65 for RON95 while having their average salary at SGD2000 a month.

They still have more spending power

Drive kancil, but refill manyak kali...and masuk tong also.

Then go backhome tuang fuel into mercedez.

win?

Well, lets put it this way... Once the sub is being removed they should reduce taxes.  Once the taxes are reduced, things will be cheaper.  We have are one the the highest in taxes if not the highest in the world.

Kepada yang bangang dan TL;DR

the double rail track from penang to ipoh managed by MMC-Gamuda JV? news said they will need to increase the budget and delay completion date...
klang railway transit? until now the project have not tendered out yet... news said tender will be 2half of this year but the project have been spoken for 1 year oledi
and thats y the government is spending more that required, this is budget deficit due to poor financial management...
budget deficit occur than the last choice is to rake as much as possible from the rakyat...
lastly rakyat suffer...

anak anak policitian yang berada di london and paris tidak cukup duit

apa mau buat?

perah sikit dari roti dan petrol supaya mereka dapat makan udang galah dan croissant di situ

ok la.. fine. Don't use LRT for example.

Say education. Primary school, almost free, secondary school, almost free. You go to USA and see if it's free...
Healthcare? Malaysian healthcare much better than USA.

I rather use those money we benefit to these areas than giving a Civic ah Beng or a BMW Ah Pek.

dan siham

I f***ing laugh at this..Seriously you have no idea, stop fooling around !!!!

if go back to 100 per barrel,it's not a suprise for seeing 2.50 per liter or even 2.70 again

RM2.70/litre, a proton wira full tank RM90.

RM1.80/litre, full tank RM60.

RM30 or 50% difference, fffuuuuuuuuu!