hmm, funny, how to implement this price structures? is every petrol station's attendant check our IC and background information before allowing us to purchase fuel?...it's very double standard la this method...i thought i would actually make the trip to come home to M'sia and work, who knows all these so-called "1Malaysia" concept is somehow bringing the nation down the drain in a way....

lol. tis system sucks.
Lets say i'm the owner of a petrol stat n i can just give the subsidy to whomever i want. how to chk who is entitled n who is not?
making the system will cost more than subsidising. better just have one then 2.
either u subsidised or u dun't at all

At the WCIT 2008 conference, ePetrol was demonstrating a way that fuel subsidies could be controlled and given to Malaysians only. In their implementation at that time, the petrol kiosk displays and charges the unsubsidised market price for petrol by default.

When an ePetrol-enabled MyKad is inserted, the subsidised price will be available. The petrol receipt (which I saw back at the event but for some reasons did not take pix of) shows both the unsubsidised price and the subsidy given.

Apparently ePetrol and EON Bank launched a pilot project in September last year for 250 EON Bank customers to use their MyKad to pay for fuel purchases at certain selected BHPetrol and Caltex stations. During the pilot trial, ePetrol gave the trial users a discount of 15 sen per liter up to 150 liters a month. You can probably consider the 15 sen discount effectively a test of a potential subsidy system.

ePetrol revealed at the WCIT 2008 that its system had a subsidy management system module. The module is able to identify MyKad holders entitled to fuel subsidies, manage the amount of subsidies allocated to each consumer, controlling the frequency of the subsidy provided (weekly limits, monthly limits, etc), and managing how the subsidy is provided (lump sum each month or a percentage of each purchase).

This would mean that a technical system for a MyKad-based subsidy system to be implemented has already been undergoing testing for over a year. Now one big question mark is for the government to finalise the nitty gritty details on how to determine who gets subsidies and how much subsidies they should get. The ePetrol system will be reprogrammed, implemented in all stations (this could possibly be a costly thing), and wala! You have a subsidy system set in place.

but then again, more back-end processes, can't someone just waltz in to the petrol station, pay, pump and leave, instead of checking IC and all what's-not, and not only that, what if my French friends in Malaysia wants to pump petrol and ask me to do it instead of him? Or the car that i am driving is registered under my dad/mom/uncle/aunt/grandfather/grandmother/BF/GF/Dog's name then how to check?

true, but what about logistics firm then, a special company card to give them subsidy?...all in all, it's a very ma fan system, it's better that government start looking at the bigger picture overall, employee's basic salary...you have to adjust it accordingly in order for people to survive and buy basic stuff.

I remember a friend of mine gave me a small calculation regarding the pay of an average household and how they survive in M'sia....it's just that bad...

Should remove the sub completely and let the price float for all.  With that there won't be any mismanagement on he "sub" money claimed by the gov.  We will know where our hard earn moneh went....

yes, i cough up the doe to drive a 2500cc vehicle in paying the monthly installment, roadtax & insurance.
i dont mind the subsidy @ paying RM1.80 for those who deserve it. hey who dont want subsidy right.

the government  states that larger engine capacity have to pay more roadtax because the petrol is subsidized.  if the government want to reduce or abolish the subsidy then a common roadtax should be applied to all vehicle regardless or CC then it will be fair.

well thats just my opnion.

aih.. negara pengeluar petrol... sigh

Drive kancil, but refill manyak kali...and masuk tong also.

Then go backhome tuang fuel into mercedez.

win?

Well, lets put it this way... Once the sub is being removed they should reduce taxes.  Once the taxes are reduced, things will be cheaper.  We have are one the the highest in taxes if not the highest in the world.

I don't know how their calculate based on engine capacity for fuel subsidize 

You missed the point... higher road tax was imposed for higher CC motor vehicles on the notion that they use more petrol (which in turn use more fuel subsidy); now if the government want to take away the subsidy, they should play fair by returning the road tax structure to an even ground...

the policies that our government comes up with is downright idiotic, to say the least....

the government only knows how to s*ck more money out of us...but in the meantime, keep quiet on the misuse of public funds...where are all the follow-ups from the corruption cases? too many to list down...and not gonna tempt my fate (from kena vacasyun! )

and how are they supposed to enforce this new old price ruling?

well this is a speculation told by my friend,

subsidy will be given to only the owner of vehicle having less than 2000cc. owner of vehicle having cc range from 1501 to 2000cc is entitled for half subsidy . owner of 1500cc & below vehicle entitled for full subsidy.

i don't know how that works in term of final pump price but the speculation is that only the owner of the vehicle will get the subsidy by registering with relevant goverment agency or ministry so it will be put in his or her MyKad.

people without any vehicle that is eligible for subsidy under their name wont get  the subsidy.

e.g a father own a perodua myvi, only he is eligible for subsidy using his mykad. so his sons,daughters or anybody else cannot get the subsidy unless they bring along the father mykad to petrol pump.

this sounds interesting. any other speculation on how the new subsidy structure works you guys heard?

the issue here is NOT only the price of petrol...it's the snowballing effect on the other items...

do you remember when the price was increased to RM2.70/litre a few years back? the prices of goods/food shot up...a bowl of noodles was RM3.50 before, but after fuel price increased, it's RM4.00....say, fuel price now is RM1.80...did the price of goods/food came down? NO sir!

i know i might have sidetracked from the price issue, but i'm rilli pissed off about what the effects will be as a whole...inflation is getting worse...

so it works like this right?

1. pay money at the counter
2. before pump insert mykad at the terminal
3. then only the subsidy will be given.
if father own sons vios & daughter myvi they have to pay full price for petrol since i doubt the father will lend his mykad to them.

got lah sons or daughter & parent using the same car. my colleague bought two myvis for herself & her dad. lol

So many possibilities and so many loop holes. Interested to see how the government is going to screw this up.

They should instead adjust the road tax per vehicle rather than on the fuel. Easier to monitor. For RX-8 why not just adjust i.e. 1.3 X 2 = 2.6. I don't think they are that dumb to realise this right? Doubt those that got the car will complain.

Also wondering for those that share one car cause they are too poor to have one car each... only one person will receive subsidy?

No mention on open tender for this project. As usual a crony is going to get the project and screw it up. 1Malaysia? Haha nice phrase only. I don't think anyone is still under the illusion that this exists.