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NasiLemakMan
post Jan 7 2010, 09:47 PM

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thank god for the public transportation system. At least the price will remain stagnant cheap and on time.
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post Jan 7 2010, 09:50 PM

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can i modify a subsidized car with a bigger tank? then fill full tank n sell to other people..untung 20c per liter also ok wat..

or non subsidized (dad's car) can fill up by transferring from subsidized (son's car)..
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post Jan 7 2010, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(PrinceHamsap @ Jan 7 2010, 07:36 PM)
NAJIB in its latest new press said that
'With the increase of petrol price, its expected ppl will travel lesser using personal vehicles. With this, our country will have lesser air and noise pollution as well as seeing the public transport will be fully utilize.'
*if sugar excuse can happen, this also can*

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post Jan 7 2010, 10:05 PM

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those who complain this is useless and not practical i can tell you the gov answer to that , subsidy abolished.

would you guys really prefer that?
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post Jan 7 2010, 10:08 PM

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apasal subsidy? i think we should enjoy free petrol like saudi arabia or brunei.


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post Jan 7 2010, 10:09 PM

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Who get charged what also we dont know one la. U think everyone so free to walk around all the oil pumps and see how much each one pays? Mana tahu those with connections only pay RM0.50 per liter.
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post Jan 7 2010, 10:10 PM

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I don't know how their calculate based on engine capacity for fuel subsidize hmm.gif
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post Jan 7 2010, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(bingozero @ Jan 7 2010, 02:10 PM)
I don't know how their calculate based on engine capacity for fuel subsidize  hmm.gif
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i think it's going to be a fixed amount of fuel say 200 litres for cars up to 1599 and below, 150 from 1600 to 1799, none from 1800 onwards, something like that and use mykad for identification. i think also we will need to register the mykad bringing along the registration card of the car to enable the subsidy.
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post Jan 7 2010, 10:40 PM

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small business like pasar malam seller use car/van to fro where enough.
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post Jan 7 2010, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(rcracer @ Jan 7 2010, 05:41 PM)
well same priciple for roadtax applies, bigger CC mean more expensive, more earnings hence can pay more as well.
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You missed the point... higher road tax was imposed for higher CC motor vehicles on the notion that they use more petrol (which in turn use more fuel subsidy); now if the government want to take away the subsidy, they should play fair by returning the road tax structure to an even ground...
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later there will be price hike for food,public transportation,etc2
almost everything will hav price hike

i, as a student will feel this price hike the most

damn U gov.....1 Malaysia my a**
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they tell us got 2 price. I think they are more price structures. Those with connection probably Rm0.50.
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QUOTE(kiasunkiasi @ Jan 7 2010, 02:45 PM)
You missed the point... higher road tax was imposed for higher CC motor vehicles on the notion that they use more petrol (which in turn use more fuel subsidy); now if the government want to take away the subsidy, they should play fair by returning the road tax structure to an even ground...
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honestly i didn't write the policy for the road tax, and this was already applied long before subsidy was an issue so i only assume it was done on that basis 'unofficially' of course, officially it is because of enviromental concern.
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QUOTE(limengseng @ Jan 7 2010, 10:08 PM)
apasal subsidy? i think we should enjoy free petrol like saudi arabia or brunei.
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Sorry to say that you still have to pay for petro in Saudi Arabia, although petro is cheaper than water there... only SAR0.45 per liter (about RM0.40 per liter)... not sure about Bruniei...
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the policies that our government comes up with is downright idiotic, to say the least....

the government only knows how to s*ck more money out of us...but in the meantime, keep quiet on the misuse of public funds...where are all the follow-ups from the corruption cases? too many to list down...and not gonna tempt my fate (from kena vacasyun! tongue.gif)

and how are they supposed to enforce this new old price ruling? rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(Pliskin @ Jan 7 2010, 03:27 PM)
the policies that our government comes up with is downright idiotic, to say the least....

the government only knows how to s*ck more money out of us...but in the meantime, keep quiet on the misuse of public funds...where are all the follow-ups from the corruption cases? too many to list down...and not gonna tempt my fate (from kena vacasyun! tongue.gif)

and how are they supposed to enforce this new old price ruling? rclxub.gif
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no that's not correct for this matter

lets do a recap for everyone here who has something to say against this policy ok.

if you all remember there was a period where the petrol price hit 2.5 or something at the absolute peak of the oil price. what happened was the people cried high and low that they were absolutely dying and the goverment need to help. And the gov actually did, this is the result of that.

The gov could have at that very moment stop all subsidies which seemed the most logical way but they chose not to and still continued to subsidize for the sake of the people. So you see this was created by the people themselves and here the gov is doing the right thing. They could have easily stopped it there and then. the story about misuse of funds is another story altogether, but in the context of fuel subsidy the gov is doing us a favour and doing it's best to keep it going for the less rich. Same story for RON95 petrol it was implemented because it was cheaper to subsidize.

Malaysians cepat lupa, when it was 2.5 they cried for help and they got it but now at 1.80 they have become arrogant again and totally forgot how easily they could have lost the subsidy back then.

So give a thought to back then when it was 2 something and how you had to live like a beggar, you are getting a subsidy now and be glad that efforts are being made to continue with it eventhough at a lesser degree. And if you feel you are above subsidies i'm very very very sure you can pay the full price without subsidy at the pump, please do so, don't be a hypocrite.
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well this is a speculation told by my friend,

subsidy will be given to only the owner of vehicle having less than 2000cc. owner of vehicle having cc range from 1501 to 2000cc is entitled for half subsidy . owner of 1500cc & below vehicle entitled for full subsidy.

i don't know how that works in term of final pump price but the speculation is that only the owner of the vehicle will get the subsidy by registering with relevant goverment agency or ministry so it will be put in his or her MyKad.

people without any vehicle that is eligible for subsidy under their name wont get the subsidy.

e.g a father own a perodua myvi, only he is eligible for subsidy using his mykad. so his sons,daughters or anybody else cannot get the subsidy unless they bring along the father mykad to petrol pump.

this sounds interesting. any other speculation on how the new subsidy structure works you guys heard?



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QUOTE(kai_rel @ Jan 7 2010, 04:01 PM)
well this is a speculation told by my friend,

subsidy will be given to only the owner of vehicle having less than 2000cc. owner of vehicle having cc range from 1501 to 2000cc is entitled for half subsidy . owner of 1500cc & below vehicle entitled for full subsidy.

i don't know how that works in term of final pump price but the speculation is that only the owner of the vehicle will get the subsidy by registering with relevant goverment agency or ministry so it will be put in his or her MyKad.

people without any vehicle that is eligible for subsidy under their name wont get  the subsidy.

e.g a father own a perodua myvi, only he is eligible for subsidy using his mykad. so his sons,daughters or anybody else cannot get the subsidy unless they bring along the father mykad to petrol pump.

this sounds interesting. any other speculation on how the new subsidy structure works you guys heard?
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sounds about right but instead of changing the pump price, the subsidy is given in terms of amount of litres or total spent eg. 300 litres per month at 1.80 and anyways malaysia where got father own myvi and daugther and son own their own?

more like father own mercedes, father also owns daughters myvi, son's vios

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QUOTE(kiasunkiasi @ Jan 7 2010, 10:45 PM)
You missed the point... higher road tax was imposed for higher CC motor vehicles on the notion that they use more petrol (which in turn use more fuel subsidy); now if the government want to take away the subsidy, they should play fair by returning the road tax structure to an even ground...
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well you missed a larger point. higher capacity engines doesn't mean higher fuel consumption.
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post Jan 8 2010, 12:11 AM

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the issue here is NOT only the price of petrol...it's the snowballing effect on the other items...

do you remember when the price was increased to RM2.70/litre a few years back? the prices of goods/food shot up...a bowl of noodles was RM3.50 before, but after fuel price increased, it's RM4.00....say, fuel price now is RM1.80...did the price of goods/food came down? NO sir!

i know i might have sidetracked from the price issue, but i'm rilli pissed off about what the effects will be as a whole...inflation is getting worse...

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