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post Jan 6 2010, 10:40 PM

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Yeah correct it's from the sample coz i haven't downloaded the full movie yet

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post Jan 6 2010, 10:46 PM

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we'll just wait AR BD screen cap @ 10:35 biggrin.gif
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post Jan 6 2010, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(zerorulez @ Jan 6 2010, 10:46 PM)
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we'll just wait AR BD screen cap  @ 10:35 biggrin.gif
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Added on January 6, 2010, 10:55 pmanyway see already.. it's even worse this grain.. due to uncompressed data, so it'll show more grain than MKV.. (means the original film has super lots of grain) due to agressive compression of MKV (smaller file) so all the details - in this case, grain, have to be thrown out (smoothen/blurred)

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post Jan 6 2010, 11:06 PM

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No homework.. just that i was watching Heroes 4x13.. the spidey inside the player.. so i stop n press play spidey... biggrin.gif
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post Jan 6 2010, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(zerorulez @ Jan 6 2010, 11:06 PM)
No homework.. just that i was watching Heroes 4x13.. the spidey inside the player.. so i stop n press play spidey... biggrin.gif
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fuyoh.. so elite wan your BD player.. can watch HD heroes and also watch BD spidey.. biggrin.gif
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post Jan 6 2010, 11:10 PM

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post Jan 6 2010, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jan 6 2010, 11:08 PM)
fuyoh.. so elite wan your BD player.. can watch HD heroes and also watch BD spidey..  biggrin.gif
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post Jan 6 2010, 11:15 PM

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post Jan 7 2010, 09:19 AM

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Bro, honestly, how do u see a noise? I think what u meant is the pixel interference? Movement quality? Bitrate?
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post Jan 7 2010, 12:51 PM

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Grain is something inherent when one shoot with 35mm, or 16mm or Supre 16mm... And most directors want the grain because that's one of the beauties of true 'analog' celluloid film.

Most now have software which handle digital videos sort of effects to add digital grain to the film to make it more film-like...some looks ok, some not - depending on the process

personally - dont really like films without grains...esp those shot with too high end digital cameras - mainly because they look too clean and too digital...i think those hi-end HD cams like the Cine Alta or Genesis could actually shoot without adding this so-called noise or grain into the picture - but normally the director / editor / producers would insist in putting a little bit of synthetic grain into the video to give it a more film look/

but on this note, in the digital domain - im not sure if we could always equate grain with noise...because i believe they are quite different.

so yeah - i guess digital isn't always a good thing...it looses the 'magic' of traditional film materials...

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post Jan 7 2010, 02:06 PM

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A lot of movies like to put stylized grain lah...like TF and TF2.
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post Jan 7 2010, 02:31 PM

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you want grain? go get the Band of Brothers BD - while this is considered a must have (even for me) the picture quality isn't something you want to show off to your HD-unsavvy friends and family.

Grain was purposely introduced to add to the "mood" and grittyness of the episodes. the 1080p rip of TF2 also had plenty of grainy scenes. Depends on the movie actually.
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post Jan 7 2010, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jan 6 2010, 08:12 PM)
it's grain.. (when encoding to another format like MKV, it could accentuate the grain more depending on encoder settings, not unlike using unsharp mask on photos)

I notice spiderman always demo on sony TV showrooms, .. dem grainy.. (and I dun mean sandman part)  biggrin.gif
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post Jan 7 2010, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(Lord_Ashe @ Jan 7 2010, 02:31 PM)
you want grain? go get the Band of Brothers BD - while this is considered a must have (even for me) the picture quality isn't something you want to show off to your HD-unsavvy friends and family.

Grain was purposely introduced to add to the "mood" and grittyness of the episodes. the 1080p rip of TF2 also had plenty of grainy scenes. Depends on the movie actually.
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the expisode where they fighthing in bastogne, the grain almost fell like snow flake tongue.gif

but ur forget about that when the german artillery start flying and all hell break loose.


Added on January 7, 2010, 6:02 pm
QUOTE(silbii @ Jan 7 2010, 12:51 PM)
Grain is something inherent when one shoot with 35mm, or 16mm or Supre 16mm... And most directors want the grain because that's one of the beauties of true 'analog' celluloid film.

Most now have software which handle digital videos sort of effects to add digital grain to the film to make it more film-like...some looks ok, some not - depending on the process

personally - dont really like films without grains...esp those shot with too high end digital cameras - mainly because they look too clean and too digital...i think those hi-end HD cams like the Cine Alta or Genesis could actually shoot without adding this so-called noise or grain into the picture - but normally the director / editor / producers would insist in putting a little bit of synthetic grain into the video to give it a more film look/

but on this note, in the digital domain - im not sure if we could always equate grain with noise...because i believe they are quite different.

so yeah - i guess digital isn't always a good thing...it looses the 'magic' of traditional film materials...

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i think the PQ of film shoot on 70mm like 2001 and baraka will be much more appreciated in blu-ray due to the increased resolution.

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