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 Why Panny P42S10K stop manufacturing?, Anyone know the reason behind?

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sissoko
post Jan 3 2010, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(tailesley @ Jan 3 2010, 07:38 AM)
very easy been confused sometime by the model number...just take note that "P" = PLasma while "L" = LCD..
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yeah..i noticed about that... but in one of the post..someone told that L for local manufactured...P for singapore....
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post Jan 3 2010, 11:01 AM

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Yes- plasma is Sijiapor made & LCD = Malaysia smile.gif
If Panny decide to stop mfg Plasma, meaning they are clsoing down Sinjiapor plant.. biggrin.gif
QUOTE(sissoko @ Jan 3 2010, 10:59 AM)
yeah..i noticed about that... but in one of the post..someone told that L for local manufactured...P for singapore....
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post Jan 3 2010, 11:04 AM

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why malaysia not produce the plasma? btw...i've noticed that u r using x series...may i know what is avchd? because plasma can play this together with mpeg2 and jpeg...lcd no..
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post Jan 3 2010, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(tailesley @ Jan 2 2010, 08:56 PM)
Bought this unit 1 month ago from iambloodysick. However, notice that this has been stop manufacturing now. Anyone here knew the reason behind? Anyway, so far im very satisfy with this plasma performance.
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From where did you get that it has been stopped production?
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post Jan 3 2010, 11:08 AM

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U are asking something only the Top management of Panasonic can answer you..same like asking why Panny stop S series... biggrin.gif Well business decision & globalisation. They decide where they wanna produce biggrin.gif

AVCHD..from unker google:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVCHD
QUOTE(sissoko @ Jan 3 2010, 11:04 AM)
why malaysia not produce the plasma? btw...i've noticed that u r using x series...may i know what is avchd? because plasma can play this together with mpeg2 and jpeg...lcd no..
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post Jan 3 2010, 11:25 AM

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stimix...is the panny can play two channel at the same time? some sort like small screen for other channel?
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post Jan 3 2010, 11:32 AM

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U mean PiP? I haven't try ...Futhermore malas wnna read the manual..just wanna enjoy the big screen not interested on PiP.. blush.gif
QUOTE(sissoko @ Jan 3 2010, 11:25 AM)
stimix...is the panny can play two channel at the same time? some sort like small screen for other channel?
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post Jan 3 2010, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(kianwee @ Jan 3 2010, 11:05 AM)
From where did you get that it has been stopped production?
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Fromm all the sop i asked around... all say stop manufacturing..
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post Jan 3 2010, 01:54 PM

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almost all of them say that but never give the reason why...
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post Jan 3 2010, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(tailesley @ Jan 3 2010, 12:39 PM)
Fromm all the sop i asked around... all say stop manufacturing..
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If that is true, Panny should take the model off their website no?
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post Jan 3 2010, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(kianwee @ Jan 3 2010, 02:18 PM)
If that is true, Panny should take the model off their website no?
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Actually, I believe the plants are now manufacturing panels for Y2010 release now. This happens every year. CES2010 is around the corner and they will showcase their new 2010 panels, 2010 panels will normally be available in April timeframe. So manufacturing has moved to 2010 models. The S series was popular in most Asian countries as it was an affordable 1080p model. So demand was higher than expected.
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post Jan 3 2010, 02:48 PM

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Plasma technology is going nowhere. These days, LCD and LED TV is the new thing. In the long run, I'm sure Pana doesn't want to be known for old school technology. Even Pioneer stopped making Kuro series. Furthermore, I read somewhere California is making a regulation to ban certain plasma series that consume too much energy compared to energy saving LCD.
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3d mvc optimized plasma?


Added on January 3, 2010, 2:56 pm
QUOTE(funnyTONE @ Jan 3 2010, 02:48 PM)
Plasma technology is going nowhere. These days, LCD and LED TV is the new thing. In the long run, I'm sure Pana doesn't want to be known for old school technology. Even Pioneer stopped making Kuro series. Furthermore, I read somewhere California is making a regulation to ban certain plasma series that consume too much energy compared to energy saving LCD.
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What so new about lcd or led backlights?
As for energy consumption, paying rm6 more a month doesnt concern me.

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hmnnn another LCG & Plasam gurus saying Plasma is better in energy mgt compare to LCD...
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QUOTE(funnyTONE @ Jan 3 2010, 02:48 PM)
Plasma technology is going nowhere. These days, LCD and LED TV is the new thing. In the long run, I'm sure Pana doesn't want to be known for old school technology. Even Pioneer stopped making Kuro series. Furthermore, I read somewhere California is making a regulation to ban certain plasma series that consume too much energy compared to energy saving LCD.
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Google up 5Lumens/Watt and 10 Lumens/Watt. This is how plasma if it survives to see that technology can reduce power consumption and make the panels brighter.

I think 2009 was the year where plasma demonstrated killer contrast ratios and lower power consumption possibilities. However, Pioneer pulled out due to not being able to compete.

LED backlit LCDs are they way for delivering better blacks as well for LCDs to battle back.

Remember NeoPDPs were only ~ 3L/Watt and the energy consumptions have already dropped.

2011, if plasma is around is when we will start seeing 5L/W tech starting to come out. Let's see.

If not, I'm sure some new technology will be out to compete.
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post Jan 3 2010, 06:24 PM

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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Jan 3 2010, 03:49 PM)
Google up 5Lumens/Watt and 10 Lumens/Watt. This is how plasma if it survives to see that technology can reduce power consumption and make the panels brighter.

I think 2009 was the year where plasma demonstrated killer contrast ratios and lower power consumption possibilities. However, Pioneer pulled out due to not being able to compete.

LED backlit LCDs are they way for delivering better blacks as well for LCDs to battle back.

Remember NeoPDPs were only ~ 3L/Watt and the energy consumptions have already dropped.

2011, if plasma is around is when we will start seeing 5L/W tech starting to come out. Let's see.

If not, I'm sure some new technology will be out to compete.
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laser rear projection TV seems pretty good.. thumbup.gif 100inches, with 6inch depth..
with 1080Hz refresh.. extremely smooth 3D

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=n...over&id=7013471
Laser technology advocates claim the displays will:
* be half the weight and cost of plasma displays
* require around 25% of the power required by Plasma displays
* be very thin like plasma and LCD displays are today
* have a very wide colour gamut, twice that of current HDTVs.
* have a very long life
* maintain full power output for the lifespan of the laser, resulting in a picture that doesn't progressively degrade over time (which happens with technologies such as plasma, LCD and CRT)
* never suffer from screen burn-in; Burn-in is caused by uneven use of color reproduction elements across a screen's surface, but laser TVs bypass this completely

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post Jan 3 2010, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jan 3 2010, 06:24 PM)
laser rear projection TV seems pretty good..  thumbup.gif  100inches, with 6inch depth..
with 1080Hz refresh.. extremely smooth 3D

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=n...over&id=7013471
Laser technology advocates claim the displays will:
    * be half the weight and cost of plasma displays
    * require around 25% of the power required by Plasma displays
    * be very thin like plasma and LCD displays are today
    * have a very wide colour gamut, twice that of current HDTVs.
    * have a very long life
    * maintain full power output for the lifespan of the laser, resulting in a picture that doesn't progressively degrade over time (which happens with technologies such as plasma, LCD and CRT)
    * never suffer from screen burn-in; Burn-in is caused by uneven use of color reproduction elements across a screen's surface, but laser TVs bypass this completely

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Similar to Mitsubishi's laser TV?

Anyway, got some wind to Panny's 2010 release. Better blacks compared to 2009 and some bug fixes....Not reaching Kuro blacks yet, but expected to reach in 2011...Hopefully they have a good CMS or at least their colour gamut is correct....
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Just hope their prices for PDP approaches similar to US street pricing.. hehehe!
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post Jan 3 2010, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Jan 3 2010, 06:32 PM)
Similar to Mitsubishi's laser TV?

Anyway, got some wind to Panny's 2010 release. Better blacks compared to 2009 and some bug fixes....Not reaching Kuro blacks yet, but expected to reach in 2011...Hopefully they have a good CMS or at least their colour gamut is correct....
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bro can u blow some of the unconfirmed wind into my private msg inbox.. i wanna buy a plasma soon ..


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