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TSkayweng
post Jan 2 2010, 10:13 PM

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Yes,i found out that problem. The benQ S42 is optimize running in Vista (i not sure window 7) , if wan downgrade to Window XP ,it has some limitations in software and Driver (Geforce 9600 Gt able run in performance mode only).

If understand these limitations ,you can downgrade to window xp.
You need to set SATA setting in Bios to IDE (default is AHCI) and boot the XP disc... but i failed the booting ?! one more issue ,your BIOS version should be 3.02 version. But my S42 BIOS version is 1.15 now ...why so old ?

What should i do ? i downloading Window 7 and try to install it on tomorrow( i worry window 7 not work in BenQ S42) ,if fail again ..i need to install vista ,but tat is not my favorite window ~


ftp://211.78.86.210/digital_media/joybook..._windows_xp.pdf

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post Jan 2 2010, 11:02 PM

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download win 7???
win 7 van download ah? no need to buy? RC version?
where to download? what is the limitation???
sorry for the noob question, been using linux for a while...
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post Jan 2 2010, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(wanttobuylaptop @ Jan 2 2010, 11:02 PM)
download win 7???
win 7 van download ah? no need to buy? RC version?
where to download? what is the limitation???
sorry for the noob question, been using linux for a while...
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that is pirated version...

anyway.. kayweng.. well.. that s42 is EOL product... shocking.gif
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post Jan 2 2010, 11:12 PM

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i am planned to install xp and linux together when i get the laptop...
xp for gaming only,since all my works are done under linux...
seeing so...i doubt if i install xp, will the game running as good as under vista/7?
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post Jan 2 2010, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(kayweng @ Jan 2 2010, 10:13 PM)
Yes,i found out that problem.  The benQ S42 is optimize running in Vista (i not sure window 7) , if wan downgrade to Window XP ,it has some limitations in software and Driver (Geforce 9600 Gt able run in performance mode only).

If understand these limitations ,you can downgrade to window xp.
You need to set SATA setting in Bios to IDE (default is AHCI) and boot the XP disc... but i failed the booting ?! one more issue ,your BIOS version should be 3.02 version. But my S42 BIOS version is 1.15 now ...why so old ?

What should i do ? i downloading Window 7 and try to install it on tomorrow( i worry window 7 not work in BenQ S42) ,if fail again ..i need to install vista ,but tat is not my favorite window ~
ftp://211.78.86.210/digital_media/joybook..._windows_xp.pdf
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for XP, u need to flash the BIOS to XP version, which would disable the GMA and run 9600M GT only... that's becuz XP do not support hybrid graphic at all due to memory management issues...

for Win7, i suggest u flash to the latest BIOS to Win7 version if u re considering installing BenQ's default graphic driver while u re still at Vista... u can skip this if u want to install modded driver instead...


Added on January 2, 2010, 11:14 pm
QUOTE(wanttobuylaptop @ Jan 2 2010, 11:12 PM)
i am planned to install xp and linux together when i get the laptop...
xp for gaming only,since all my works are done under linux...
seeing so...i doubt if i install xp, will the game running as good as under vista/7?
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u lose support for DX10 and DX11...

i would say stick with Vista at least... DX11 is going to be pretty useful in the future... not juz for games but GPGPU as well...

and of course, hybrid graphic as well... reason described above...

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post Jan 2 2010, 11:16 PM

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Added on January 2, 2010, 11:14 pm

u lose support for DX10 and DX11...

i would say stick with Vista at least... DX11 is going to be pretty useful in the future... not juz for games but GPGPU as well...

and of course, hybrid graphic as well... reason described above...
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if i using xp most definitely i would need 9600 to run for gaming...
another noob question..actually what does direct X does? what is the different using D9 and D10/11??
and what is GPGPU?
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post Jan 2 2010, 11:18 PM

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just comeback from lyp, woah damn jam traffic, when want to enter the lorong one got police blocked and got to pusing around jlan p ramlee,
jalan like kura2, but finally at last got my sata 500GB. RM290
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post Jan 2 2010, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(wanttobuylaptop @ Jan 2 2010, 11:16 PM)

if i using xp most definitely i would need 9600 to run for gaming...
another noob question..actually what does direct X does? what is the different using D9 and D10/11??
and what is GPGPU?
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DirectX is wat makes the graphic in games possible...

i am not very sure abt the detail of DX, but as far as gamer is concerned, each new DX upgrade would give u better effect, nicer, more realistic graphic... u can wiki it if u re interested...

GPGPU stands for General Purpose GPU, meaning to use the GPU (which is designed for graphic in the first place) for non-graphic related purposes to off load CPU resources for other purposes.. .for eg, decoding HD videos, real-time transcoding (cover from 1 format to another) of videos, application acceleration (ie photoshop), physics calculation (Nvidia PhysX), high performance computing, etc...

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post Jan 2 2010, 11:30 PM

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You can notice the difference if you change the Direct X9 to 10 (Vista)
try Resident Evil 5.. there you got two options, play with X9.0 or X10
you try yourself then you will know..


Added on January 2, 2010, 11:32 pm
Why XP? Vista more Security maa.. and nice theme you will get, gaming also ok

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post Jan 2 2010, 11:33 PM

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yeah, but DX10 can be too overwhelming for lower end cards though...

i am more interested to see how a DX10 card perform in DX11...
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post Jan 2 2010, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(astria @ Jan 2 2010, 11:23 PM)
DirectX is wat makes the graphic in games possible...

i am not very sure abt the detail of DX, but as far as gamer is concerned, each new DX upgrade would give u better effect, nicer, more realistic graphic... u can wiki it if u re interested...

GPGPU stands for General Purpose GPU, meaning to use the GPU (which is designed for graphic in the first place) for non-graphic related purposes to off load CPU resources for other purposes.. .for eg, decoding HD videos, real-time transcoding (cover from 1 format to another) of videos, application acceleration (ie photoshop), physics calculation (Nvidia PhysX), high performance computing, etc...
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mmm...i see....
maybe i'll get a win 7 starter? lolx, it is quite cheap..
but does not come with 64 bit...
or see if any fren's uni giving out free key...

@swordman: ur siggy banner rox...
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i,m already try on some 3D benchmark using full utilise of DX11
there are many new feature, but on tat bench i got pathetic performance
even run on 640 reso, its like slideshow when all feature ON. even same with my brother desktop 8600GT / and yeah that bench 3D scene are superb


Added on January 2, 2010, 11:41 pmHaha that my (piss off / sakit jiwa to TMnut) sign

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TSkayweng
post Jan 3 2010, 12:08 AM

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hmm, my benQ S42 does not contains a OS yet . i confuse how could i update / flash the BIOS to latest version ? should i install vista 1st and then update bios and upgrade to Window 7 or directly install window 7 ?

Yes,my downloading is pirate one la. if you want that original ,you should pay few hundred to purchase or download beta version ( it will expired soon)
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post Jan 3 2010, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(kayweng @ Jan 3 2010, 12:08 AM)
hmm, my benQ S42 does not contains a OS yet . i confuse how could i update / flash the BIOS to latest version ? should i install vista 1st and then update bios and upgrade to Window 7 or directly install window 7 ?

Yes,my downloading is pirate one la. if you want that original ,you should pay few hundred to purchase or download beta version ( it will expired soon)
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in that case, juz install Win7 straight... then grab the modded driver...

u can get more info regarding driver in the BenQ thread...
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post Jan 3 2010, 12:23 AM

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OK ! but my BIOS version not enough update yet,it is 1.XX due to it produced on Feb 2009. Your information are helped to me...thanks.
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post Jan 3 2010, 02:01 AM

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post Jan 3 2010, 02:32 AM

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QUOTE(astria @ Jan 2 2010, 11:33 PM)
i am more interested to see how a DX10 card perform in DX11...
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astria, are you saying that Dx10 card can handle Dx11? hmm.gif
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post Jan 3 2010, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Jan 3 2010, 02:32 AM)
astria, are you saying that Dx10 card can handle Dx11? hmm.gif
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yup, DX11 is more like a add on of DX10.1 and DX10, thus DX10 and DX10.1 cards will have partial support of DX11...

unlike last time, say when DX9 come out, ur DX8 card is totally useless...
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post Jan 3 2010, 11:37 AM

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HELP ! i had successful installed Win 7 x64bit in my benQ. For that , i haven`t install any drivers for that yet.So i check the DxDiag , i saw that Display ,it display set is Mobil Intel chip set G45 ...( Why it is not Geforce 9600 GT ?) Ok , then i check device manager ..the Display Driver part ,it has two graphic driver ( Mobil Intel and one is VGA , i think that VGA is for Geforce 9600 GT la,but the VGA driver is not working properly). I downloading Hyper Graphich driver from BenQ now , but i saw that 1 document about Hyper Graphcihc in Window 7 ,the BIOS version must be 1.20 ( my bios is 1.12 now),so i download 1.20 bios firmware and run it to update bios ,it totally fail to update ...

how i solve this problem ?i search other thread ,some nvidia forum say no need update the BIOS ,instead search VGA driver that had modified to support S42 now...


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post Jan 3 2010, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(kayweng @ Jan 3 2010, 11:37 AM)
HELP ! i had successful installed Win 7 x64bit in my benQ. For that , i haven`t install any drivers for that yet.So i check the DxDiag , i saw that Display ,it display set is Mobil Intel chip set G45 ...( Why it is not Geforce 9600 GT ?) Ok , then i check device manager ..the Display Driver part ,it has two graphic driver ( Mobil Intel and one is VGA , i think that VGA is for Geforce 9600 GT la,but the VGA driver is not working properly). I downloading Hyper Graphich driver from BenQ now , but i saw that 1 document about Hyper Graphcihc in Window 7 ,the BIOS version must be 1.20 ( my bios is 1.12 now),so i download 1.20 bios firmware and run it to update bios ,it totally fail to update ...

how i solve this problem ?i search other thread ,some nvidia forum say no need update the BIOS ,instead search VGA driver that had modified to support S42 now...
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go www.laptopvideo2go.com

search for "Dox hybrid driver"

fyi normal driver will not work on S42 unless u flash to the XP BIOS to use 9600M GT only... and BIOS 1.20 can only be flashed under Vista, it will not flash in Win7...

more info can be obtained from the BenQ thread...

good luck...

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