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A story when i purchase BenQ-S42 at Lowyat

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astria	Jan 2 2010, 11:12 PM Return to original view \| Post #1
an apple a day keeps the doctor away Senior Member 22,158 posts Joined: Aug 2008 From: Singapore	QUOTE(kayweng @ Jan 2 2010, 10:13 PM) Yes,i found out that problem. The benQ S42 is optimize running in Vista (i not sure window 7) , if wan downgrade to Window XP ,it has some limitations in software and Driver (Geforce 9600 Gt able run in performance mode only). If understand these limitations ,you can downgrade to window xp. You need to set SATA setting in Bios to IDE (default is AHCI) and boot the XP disc... but i failed the booting ?! one more issue ,your BIOS version should be 3.02 version. But my S42 BIOS version is 1.15 now ...why so old ? What should i do ? i downloading Window 7 and try to install it on tomorrow( i worry window 7 not work in BenQ S42) ,if fail again ..i need to install vista ,but tat is not my favorite window ~ ftp://211.78.86.210/digital_media/joybook..._windows_xp.pdf for XP, u need to flash the BIOS to XP version, which would disable the GMA and run 9600M GT only... that's becuz XP do not support hybrid graphic at all due to memory management issues... for Win7, i suggest u flash to the latest BIOS to Win7 version if u re considering installing BenQ's default graphic driver while u re still at Vista... u can skip this if u want to install modded driver instead... Added on January 2, 2010, 11:14 pm QUOTE(wanttobuylaptop @ Jan 2 2010, 11:12 PM) i am planned to install xp and linux together when i get the laptop... xp for gaming only,since all my works are done under linux... seeing so...i doubt if i install xp, will the game running as good as under vista/7? u lose support for DX10 and DX11... i would say stick with Vista at least... DX11 is going to be pretty useful in the future... not juz for games but GPGPU as well... and of course, hybrid graphic as well... reason described above... This post has been edited by astria: Jan 2 2010, 11:14 PM
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astria	Jan 2 2010, 11:23 PM Return to original view \| Post #2
an apple a day keeps the doctor away Senior Member 22,158 posts Joined: Aug 2008 From: Singapore	QUOTE(wanttobuylaptop @ Jan 2 2010, 11:16 PM) if i using xp most definitely i would need 9600 to run for gaming... another noob question..actually what does direct X does? what is the different using D9 and D10/11?? and what is GPGPU? DirectX is wat makes the graphic in games possible... i am not very sure abt the detail of DX, but as far as gamer is concerned, each new DX upgrade would give u better effect, nicer, more realistic graphic... u can wiki it if u re interested... GPGPU stands for General Purpose GPU, meaning to use the GPU (which is designed for graphic in the first place) for non-graphic related purposes to off load CPU resources for other purposes.. .for eg, decoding HD videos, real-time transcoding (cover from 1 format to another) of videos, application acceleration (ie photoshop), physics calculation (Nvidia PhysX), high performance computing, etc... This post has been edited by astria: Jan 2 2010, 11:23 PM
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astria	Jan 2 2010, 11:33 PM Return to original view \| Post #3
an apple a day keeps the doctor away Senior Member 22,158 posts Joined: Aug 2008 From: Singapore	yeah, but DX10 can be too overwhelming for lower end cards though... i am more interested to see how a DX10 card perform in DX11...
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astria	Jan 3 2010, 12:11 AM Return to original view \| Post #4
an apple a day keeps the doctor away Senior Member 22,158 posts Joined: Aug 2008 From: Singapore	QUOTE(kayweng @ Jan 3 2010, 12:08 AM) hmm, my benQ S42 does not contains a OS yet . i confuse how could i update / flash the BIOS to latest version ? should i install vista 1st and then update bios and upgrade to Window 7 or directly install window 7 ? Yes,my downloading is pirate one la. if you want that original ,you should pay few hundred to purchase or download beta version ( it will expired soon) in that case, juz install Win7 straight... then grab the modded driver... u can get more info regarding driver in the BenQ thread...
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astria	Jan 3 2010, 10:05 AM Return to original view \| Post #5
an apple a day keeps the doctor away Senior Member 22,158 posts Joined: Aug 2008 From: Singapore	QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Jan 3 2010, 02:32 AM) astria, are you saying that Dx10 card can handle Dx11? yup, DX11 is more like a add on of DX10.1 and DX10, thus DX10 and DX10.1 cards will have partial support of DX11... unlike last time, say when DX9 come out, ur DX8 card is totally useless...
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astria	Jan 3 2010, 11:41 AM Return to original view \| Post #6
an apple a day keeps the doctor away Senior Member 22,158 posts Joined: Aug 2008 From: Singapore	QUOTE(kayweng @ Jan 3 2010, 11:37 AM) HELP ! i had successful installed Win 7 x64bit in my benQ. For that , i haven`t install any drivers for that yet.So i check the DxDiag , i saw that Display ,it display set is Mobil Intel chip set G45 ...( Why it is not Geforce 9600 GT ?) Ok , then i check device manager ..the Display Driver part ,it has two graphic driver ( Mobil Intel and one is VGA , i think that VGA is for Geforce 9600 GT la,but the VGA driver is not working properly). I downloading Hyper Graphich driver from BenQ now , but i saw that 1 document about Hyper Graphcihc in Window 7 ,the BIOS version must be 1.20 ( my bios is 1.12 now),so i download 1.20 bios firmware and run it to update bios ,it totally fail to update ... how i solve this problem ?i search other thread ,some nvidia forum say no need update the BIOS ,instead search VGA driver that had modified to support S42 now... go www.laptopvideo2go.com search for "Dox hybrid driver" fyi normal driver will not work on S42 unless u flash to the XP BIOS to use 9600M GT only... and BIOS 1.20 can only be flashed under Vista, it will not flash in Win7... more info can be obtained from the BenQ thread... good luck... This post has been edited by astria: Jan 3 2010, 11:41 AM
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astria	Jan 3 2010, 12:30 PM Return to original view \| Post #7
an apple a day keeps the doctor away Senior Member 22,158 posts Joined: Aug 2008 From: Singapore	QUOTE(kayweng @ Jan 3 2010, 12:12 PM) Thanks for help , I navigated to laptopvideo2go.com, I saw that Driver download list there , i should downlod the latest driver for Win7/x64 or go in forum and download driver them provide in "Dox's Customized Forceware Releases" What is forceware? I feel benq not do well in upgrading to Window 7 .how come many limintations? huh~ go for Dox's driver... as i said, the normal driver (aka Forceware as Nvidia calls it) will not work on S42 as NV has no plans to support hybrid graphic with Intel (most probably due to the fact that they still have some legal cases with Intel unsettled) as for the trouble of driver, blame it on NV and Intel, as neither are willing to support this whole hybrid graphic thingy juz becuz they dun like each other, thus the need to rely on 3rd party driver modders... the idea of hybrid graphic is great, but without official support is still bad, and we as consumers suffer... This post has been edited by astria: Jan 3 2010, 12:32 PM
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astria	Jan 3 2010, 01:16 PM Return to original view \| Post #8
an apple a day keeps the doctor away Senior Member 22,158 posts Joined: Aug 2008 From: Singapore	QUOTE(wanttobuylaptop @ Jan 3 2010, 01:16 PM) sounds like in the end...all hybrid graphic laptop will face the same issue?
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astria	Jan 3 2010, 01:22 PM Return to original view \| Post #9
an apple a day keeps the doctor away Senior Member 22,158 posts Joined: Aug 2008 From: Singapore	u install vista also the same problem with driver... anyway, there are ppl in the BenQ thread who are more than happy to help and guide u abt that...
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astria	Jan 3 2010, 11:34 PM Return to original view \| Post #10
an apple a day keeps the doctor away Senior Member 22,158 posts Joined: Aug 2008 From: Singapore	nope.. u'll encounter the same problem... i guess it's best that u leave a post in the BenQ thread instead..
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astria	Jan 4 2010, 08:51 AM Return to original view \| Post #11
an apple a day keeps the doctor away Senior Member 22,158 posts Joined: Aug 2008 From: Singapore	http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1273464
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