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post Jan 6 2010, 09:05 AM

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QUOTE(Dura-Ace @ Jan 6 2010, 08:57 AM)
i cant stable ma rig when try to increase cpu-nb more than 2400Mhz icon_question.gif
put >1.3v oso not stable...
failed during calculation either pi or AOD rclxub.gif
sifu2, pleze gip advice icon_question.gif  notworthy.gif
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post Jan 6 2010, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(hilmiangah @ Jan 6 2010, 09:25 AM)
yo guys.

lets said someone have a budget of RM1500 for a quad amd rig build.

what kind of hardware would u guys recommend.i hear some rumor that finally a new C3 stepping quad can do 4ghz stable.can u guys recommend some decent mobo and ram to go along with it.
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preferred gfx, need for dual gfx (or not), ddr2/ddr3 platform, all parts or just cpu only sir? smile.gif

for 4ghz stable, at least a 955 is needed but imo voltage won't be too friendly (i've seen c3 doin prime stable @ 1.4xV). 3.8~3.9GHz is more realistic target. if RM1.5k just for cpu, board + ram then u can have a nice setup there (well, mebe a 4x00 gfx too)... nod.gif
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QUOTE(hilmiangah @ Jan 6 2010, 09:42 AM)
thats what i have in mind too.

well to me a 3.6ghz duallie is decent enuff but since amd quaddie is cheap nowadays its simply a no brainer.

what i got in mind right now is

965 C3
msi 770-c45
some decent ddr3 ram(need u guys help here but i think a decent 1600mhz 4gb kit would suffice)
and maybe some 4770

does the mobo good enuff for the proc??or do i need something better??
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1. i will take giga 770 instead of msi
2. i will take 955 if d price diff is quite alot (>RM50, not so big for some but suffice for better ram/board)
3. i will take crucial value w/ d9kpt over any bling2 ram which cost 25~50% more (it's suffice to get a pair of ram which capable of doin 1333+ @ cas 6 or 1600+ @ cas7)
4. gotta agree on 4770, less heat but on par (or slightly inferior to 4850 from what i hear, pardon me for bein a gfx idiot, i'm still usin 3850 from dinosaur age doh.gif )

d board is no match for d chip, i will take a more balanced combo like biostar 790gx (for future cf)/giga 770 (for superior pwm + award bios but layout wise not so great). smile.gif

my 2 cents sir... wink.gif

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Jan 6 2010, 09:49 AM)
better 955
n 5770 n normal ram..
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arghhh... bro, u x abih2 sembur racun 5x00 series ah? sad.gif

QUOTE(Dura-Ace @ Jan 6 2010, 09:51 AM)
@hilmiangah - as bro ah_khoo say, don keep lion(965 C3) in cage!!
letb it free and rule the jungle!! brows.gif
790Fx go2!! brows.gif

noob question, is it need to play with fsb?
some said if used BE no need to play with it, just multiple can do..
really work that way ka?
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do not keep ya lion (board) in d cage too... 790fx is capable of high htt oc... brows.gif

this was my highest attempt, can go higher if luck is with u + some trial & error sessions... smile.gif

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Atta...post&id=1321820

no doubt there's no need to fiddle around w/ htt when u got a be chip, but lite htt oc (i'm not askin you to do extreme htt oc since phenom don't really befitted from havin high htt) can offer better options for your 24/7 setup (mix of cpu clock, ram freq as well as nb freq). wink.gif

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QUOTE(Dura-Ace @ Jan 6 2010, 10:04 AM)
gip me face la bro laugh.gif
only have 2-3hour to play oc with my ris on weekdays coz have to OT everyday cry.gif

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QUOTE(hilmiangah @ Jan 6 2010, 10:04 AM)
kinda agree on the layout of the giga 770 being weird.the 8 pin connector placement at the middle of the board.

does the 955 get the new stepping as the 965??

im running an Asus 4770 Formula now.loving it power consumption and heat output.but thinking of letting it go but if the budget kinda strain than im going back to the same model but different make.

im still on the dark bout the ram still.something called Team Extreem 1600mhz 4gbkit is kinda interesting.
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yup, 955 has got c3 flavor, abg cloudwan is usin one currently, but dont pressure him ( tongue.gif ), he's still takin his own sweet time to tweak d chip. tongue.gif

asus 4770 formula? d car like heatsink rite? hmm.gif

ur referrin to team dark 1600 cas 7 rite? if it comes cheap, why not? at least guarantee u'll have 1600 @ cas7, low voltage some more (1.65v iirc). rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Jan 6 2010, 10:20 AM)
If the layout for the MA770T-UD3P is weird try looking for the 770TA-UD3, it has all the best features of the former but with better layout & SATA3 & USB3.0  thumbup.gif

Yes the 955 has the new C3 stepping, like ah_khoo said check my sig tongue.gif

The ram just ask our bro ah_khoo to get those Crucial Value Kit from SG ler, very good performance & much cheaper than that Gskill too  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
if only i got moolah, i'll do bulk already bro... tongue.gif

tested by my new neighbor tongue.gif - ddr1600 @ cas7 w/ 1.74v w/o sweat... nothing to brag about but value for money imo... nod.gif

QUOTE(hilmiangah @ Jan 6 2010, 10:23 AM)
btw those new revision of the giga board already available??
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i think it's kinda hard for distro to bring in these model for amd platform, not until their clear d non-A series. sad.gif

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QUOTE(Dura-Ace @ Jan 6 2010, 11:16 AM)
sure ka?than now u used 8pin 0r 4pin?
woried will harm d mobo sweat.gif
but i already change my psu with my bro sweat.gif
later will change back..
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100% can, been doin that since nf4 era. just make sure u plug it in in proper direction (dun worry, u wont be able to insert d connector if ur in wrong direction, dun anyhow force it thou, later both psu + mobo ko laugh.gif ). nod.gif

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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Jan 6 2010, 11:31 AM)
yeah..but with this giga, i can even make my ram tighter...that biostar cant do that...
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more options doesn't necessarily mean better mileage, it's d tweakin skills that matter. noob like me has no problem did 1700 w/o sweat on 790gx a3+ but on 790fxt i only managed a 1680. doh.gif

QUOTE(cloudwan @ Jan 6 2010, 11:44 AM)
Ya lor just notice it in PCZone pricelist.. tho the price isn't listed yet.. If the price range is still within RM3xx that would be sweet  drool.gif  drool.gif
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fat hope, 790fxta vs 790fxt here is $319 vs $285. u do d maths bro... sweat.gif

QUOTE(8tvt @ Jan 6 2010, 11:54 AM)
so can pair with pII 555 haha - poison ah_khoo..
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i'm happily retired bro... no more mid range stuff for me... i use low end system only from now on... nod.gif

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post Jan 6 2010, 01:20 PM

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c3 x2 550 spotted in xs... brows.gif

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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Jan 6 2010, 01:23 PM)
i tot c3 have no more unlocking..still have yeah? owhoo.... great bargain over there...

and i expect more than that...
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i was too... but when i look at d htt & ram timing, these could be d factors why such voltage needed. for very high htt oc, usually more juice is required. not too bad if that setup can be prime stable. d best batch is yet to come... brows.gif
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QUOTE(cyberloner @ Jan 6 2010, 02:21 PM)
he told that the B50 of C3 edition there is locked multi... too bad
unlock multi such as BE would be nicer....
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bro, say a 4.0GHz clock is needed, we just need 259htt w/ multi locked @ 15.5. I dun see any problem w/ that w/ current batch of deneb. if we're talkin bout agena then mebe diff story lah... tongue.gif

even if 4.0GHz (prime stable) is not achievable, 3.8~3.9GHz is posible & d voltage needed is definitely lower than c2 which doesn't seem too bad for a chip that cost RM3xx. wink.gif
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QUOTE(cyberloner @ Jan 6 2010, 02:28 PM)
i dunno..
i also dunno what special about C3..
i stick to my 550BE C2 =P
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c3 is gud bro, so far 955c3 looks very promisin, so does 956 but prise wise, they're still outta reach, at least for poor man like me. 4.0/4.1GHz prime stable anyone? drool.gif

ya 0922apmw is gud enuf liao bro... < 1.45v should be able to bring you up to 3.8GHz... i really miss d 0922 ledi... sad.gif



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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Jan 6 2010, 10:05 PM)
No need to change cooler la, just need to get a better thermal paste i think, b4 this the temp is much nicer i believe sad.gif
Miahahaha, nanti la bro, but seriously can a 955BE take up to 70c temp?
If can i would like to try, don't want to have the cpu go kaboom  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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biar je chip tu meletop, pastu ade gantian baru ma... mane tau hok baru tu stepping lebih ganah... 4.1/4.2 prime stable ke... brows.gif

temp wud be d main culprit for now, u gotta do something w/ d heatsink... ccf xleh push-pull kan? tr venomous (ke ape dah lupe doh.gif ) for u bro... drool.gif
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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Jan 6 2010, 11:20 PM)
Wah, wah unker.. Don't be like that, if that happend there goes RM535 into the toilet.. sweat.gif

Itulah CCF cannot do push pull ah bro, if not i could use my unuse stock CCF fan for it.. sweat.gif
I've stopped trying for now.. Every setting i tried cannot pass.. only superpi 1M was able to pass, even superpi 8M cannot pass doh.gif doh.gif
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pasal rma jgn takut mah... kalu rosak just call amd, there'll be fedex/ups ppl collectin d chip @ ya doorstep. tak kan diorg tanye ko oc ke x? kalu tanye pun cakap xde jelah... laugh.gif

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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Jan 7 2010, 07:24 AM)
wah...poison kuat..

mind if i ask...any giga 770ud3p user...y my PCIE lane running at x2 instead of x16..and i found no option in bios regarding the lane speed..
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iirc, i dun have any option to adjust pci-e lane bandwidth in bios for my 790fxt b4... not so sure for ya board thou... hmm.gif

QUOTE(Dura-Ace @ Jan 6 2010, 11:24 PM)
rcun lg  laugh.gif

nwy bro, wanna ask somthing, im tried to reached 3.9,
can boot and can enter os,
and prime for 5min, my rig were reboot,
is this the sign of unstable or heat prob?
bout prime, stress with blend or max ftt's?
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again, no ss, no details mentioned, how to advise bro... sweat.gif

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jeng... jeng... jeng... mase tuk kuiz teka-teki... tongue.gif

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@ Dura-Ace,

can u try ganged mode instead? dun straight way jump to 3.9GHz, try 3.85 ke, 3.87 ke... slow slow... smile.gif

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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Jan 7 2010, 12:42 PM)
Perghhh ni yg males nih, kena masuk kuiz teka-teki la pulak..
What cpu is that bro? Hmmmm kinda weird having SSE 1,2,3,4 & AMD-V like that.. hmm.gif
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965BE C3 lah tu... 3.4GHz stock speed mah... tongue.gif

joke aside, it's just a poor chip for my post retirement rig... a very average chip which can't even take part in d supa pi 32m challenge... sad.gif

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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Jan 7 2010, 01:10 PM)
Looks like one of those low watt cpu's jerk..  hmm.gif
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silap... low watt cpu don't have high multi leh bro... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Jan 7 2010, 01:13 PM)
description tls AMD PHENOM™
pneng2... adakah 550BE yg baru?c3?
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silap jugak... kalu c3 b50 mmg x tunjuk dah 3.4GHz, 4.3GHz ade lah... ahahahahhaa... tongue.gif

back to topic:

anyone going to attend d XS party @ Vegas?

I'm sure some of you guys receive d email too... if only d air ticket is free... for 2... for sure i'll go... biggrin.gif

official thread HERE
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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Jan 8 2010, 04:08 PM)
Ahsus AMD mobo not so nice, the 890FX mobo also does not have PWMsinks... doh.gif doh.gif
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white, lite blue, dark blue + black, are they copyin msi + gaygay at d same time? hmm.gif

QUOTE(alive88 @ Jan 8 2010, 04:13 PM)
guys, wanna ask for ur opinion.. for 600 budget, what is the best combination for mobo and cpu?
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gaygay 770 + athlon II x3. smile.gif

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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Jan 8 2010, 04:52 PM)
Yup, ahsus the true copycat doh.gif doh.gif

Hmmm, if alive88 wanna reuse his DDR2 back, gaygay 770 + Athlon II X2 seems ok.. If got extra bajet X3 good also..

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I rike ahsus HD5870 gamers republic  drool.gif  drool.gif
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yg berbelang2 punyer kang bro... tu cume reference cooler + mod sket je... delta screamer inside (kalu x silap)... sweat.gif

QUOTE(alive88 @ Jan 8 2010, 04:56 PM)
can ddr3 mobo use ddr2? if not, im looking for ddr2 mobo blush.gif
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xbleh bro... nanti ddr2 hancusss... gaygay 770 got ddr2 punyer mah... nod.gif

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