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 YTL POWER INTERNATIONAL, VERSION 2

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jasontoh
post Mar 4 2010, 10:39 PM

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Btw,when is the ex-date and the payment? Really looking forward to get all my divvy
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post Mar 10 2010, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(protonw @ Mar 10 2010, 06:54 AM)
By seeing the price up, not selling also happy mar....

I am also not selling.  But at least happy to see my portfolio of this counter no more in red like it dropped just weeks or month ago.  brows.gif
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For me if it is a div counter, not to worry too much, especially if the yield is sustainable. Some of the times, in fact the stocks already breakeven at slightly lower than your ABP, because it has already given you bonus shares, div shares etc. So, as long as YTLP is giving >6% div yield of the current market price, then, I have no problem keeping it. I'm only happy if I realized the gain, not just by paper profit. If based on paper profit alone, some ppl might go from rclxm9.gif smile.gif sweat.gif sad.gif mad.gif vmad.gif
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post Mar 10 2010, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Mar 10 2010, 02:40 PM)
Their total shares is almost 6.7 bil shares outstanding. 13 mil new shares is like a drop in the swimming pool. Don't worry, will have no effect whatsoever.
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Yeah. Last time I kena trap by selling off the WB, but still luckily that YTLP drop after that, then I pick up
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post Mar 10 2010, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Mar 10 2010, 02:44 PM)
Skid any news on ytlpower?  tongue.gif Why the buying volume so high  hmm.gif
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Share divvy on the way
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post Mar 10 2010, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Mar 10 2010, 02:46 PM)
0.013/6.7 x 100% = 0.19 % only  laugh.gif


Added on March 10, 2010, 2:47 pm

Not much treasury shares left. Lazy to find out the figure but i remember not much lar  wink.gif So is impossible.
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They can give up odd number instead of 1 for 25.
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post Mar 10 2010, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Mar 10 2010, 03:00 PM)
The 800MW i believe already factored in as it is an old news. So most probably is something else i believe. But the way i look at it... Why YTLPOWER don want to pay off their debts with their 8 billion cash pile instead of issuing new shares? Must be some acquisition coming soon.

I hope i am not wrong this time  tongue.gif

By the way i stop topping up my ytlpower since last year.


Added on March 10, 2010, 3:04 pm

According to Skid figure, we can get 1 share for every 134 shares we hold....Do you think it is possible?
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Why not. In fact, now they already start buying back, I'm sure by AGM, this will be one agenda, and approved, YTLP reach 2.50, after ex 2.20 again biggrin.gif
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post Mar 10 2010, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Mar 10 2010, 05:15 PM)
their buy backs are in small quantities only. i don think they will use their cash on either reduce their borrowing or share buy back. They will look into new acquisition instead i believe.
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Bear in mind that YTLP is quite high price now. If they look into new acquisition, it is possible, they can release their treasury share to free up more cash.
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post Mar 11 2010, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Mar 11 2010, 08:29 AM)
Yes agree pound movement does impact YTLPOWER share price as almost 50% of the revenue was contributed by WESSEX WATER.  nod.gif
However, last time YTLPOWER dipped below 1.70 was mainly due to IPP WINDFALL tax.

As i have mentioned earlier, the catalyst for YTLPOWER at the moment is the 8 billion cash together with unconverted warrants which total up to be RM 10 BILLION.

So, they can buy up any power plants or water treatment plant.....So we can only determine after the acquisition news come out.

My view is YTLPOWER share quite hard to speculate as i remember one of my frend bought at RM 1.80 AND he sold off at around 1.95 as he told me it is at the peak liaw...
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Haha...same as another friend of mine telling me YTLP cannot move further as it has rally from 1.75 to 1.9x. Now he doh.gif
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post Mar 11 2010, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Mar 11 2010, 08:50 AM)
The story does not end here...My frend bought back at RM 2.15  doh.gif
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Well, a lot of time is like this. I remember Sapcres was at 1.40 one time and my friend ask me to sell it because it has already rally 0.70 to 1.40, but he bought it at 2.x. I was like shocking.gif because that is when I start selling
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post Aug 4 2010, 08:28 AM

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QUOTE(yamatotrading @ Aug 4 2010, 12:12 AM)
Somewhere i read that there is a possibility YTLpower giving 25:1 share..
possible ?
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Possible giving 1 for 25 shares like it used to give last time but since last year YTLP did not give and did not do any share buy back recently. But if it is true, I'll just treat it as bonus and could be a real reason why YTLP trying to break 2.28 recently
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post Aug 11 2010, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(whizzer @ Aug 9 2010, 11:13 AM)
Agree with you. I think most company buyback shares as a last resort to support their share price and not for the purpose of share dividend. I personally dont like share dividend because I would have to worry about the odd lots thingy.
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post Aug 18 2010, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(whizzer @ Aug 12 2010, 11:54 PM)
I dont mind dividend compounding but not odd lots  tongue.gif
I think most of the wealth creation plan that I saw, only use max 7% p.a. for illustration.
Using like 20% p.a. is probably for the warren buffet type of ppl  biggrin.gif
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7% p.a. can be easily done, esp with so many div counters at this rate. No risk involve if you put everything to high div counters. 10% is very possible, but 20% is doable. I'm on my 4th year working and been growing close to 20% each year
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post Oct 22 2010, 10:02 PM

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Hi darkknight, how are your stocks doing at the moment? Seems like recently keep up up up biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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post Nov 9 2010, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(calmwater @ Oct 31 2010, 04:54 AM)
Of my fav 3, 2 are doing fine (TAGB-PA, Starhill Global). The other one (BTOTO) is good for div so far, but capital appreciation ta'ada.

TAGB in my view has the most potential for capital appreciation, as they have very good land bank in strategic locations in K.L. , Damansara , SG. Buloh etc Plus they are building themselves into a property developer with a commendable reputation. Their recent 50:50 JV with a large property management company in Australia is prove of a growing reputation and of course growing business as well with the project valued at RM$ 1.8 Billion. Launching of sales is towards the end of this year, while entire project is to be completed by 2014. So if sales take off well, there could be further upside coming.

They are also going quite heavily into hotels, with 3 large ones spread out in Singapore, Australia and Canada.

Another major catalyst to a surge in it's share price could come with launch of MRT. It's properties in Damansara, Bukit Bintang and opposite KLCC standing to gain the most.

The best part about TAGB is that it is still trading below it's IPO. tongue.gif  What more can you ask for?

TAGB-PA at 38 sen is 8.5 sen below it's mother, with only 2 years remaining for conversion at no cost.  drool.gif  What more can you ask for?  laugh.gif

Tony Tiah has bought 8 million shares in the past month, with the latest at 40 sen.

Nevertheless invest wisely, like you have been doing all along. Your careful investing style is admired. thumbup.gif

Take care, all the best.
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Why if a stock trading below IPO it is good? hmm.gif Meaning Msports and all those China IPO also good?


Added on November 9, 2010, 9:46 am
QUOTE(June_llk @ Nov 9 2010, 09:30 AM)
Looks like many players have lose faith in this stock... smile.gif

So this thread will close soon?

I am still holding mine..

and the super YTLE also trading at 200+ P/E...
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Still holding mine as long as the div can sustain. Don't think I can find any other suitable div counter to replace it as of now.

This post has been edited by jasontoh: Nov 9 2010, 09:46 AM
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post Nov 9 2010, 04:19 PM

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Just as June talk about YTLP today, this stock moves
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post Nov 12 2010, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(June_llk @ Nov 12 2010, 10:14 AM)
To those warriors who lose confidence on YTLPI, let me give you a diff perspective...

YES is different from P1 because it offers both voice and data in a same package.

Means don't need to pay separate bill for internet and phone. and next year would be pay TV.

Overseas call with be like local call. YES can also be used in oversea, using third party broadband speed but call is still local call...

How many potential subscribers in Malaysia and around the world?

Digi has c. 8 mil subscribers...

Just say 1 mil subscribers at average fee is RM100

1 year is RM1.2bil, assume margin is 40% then profit is about RM500mil. Can it become the next Digi? I think yes. LTE a threat? Not so soon, all just talk. Talk is always easy.

In a nut shell, Yeoh don't do losing money business. TP: RM4.00 biggrin.gif
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Maybe Yeoh wanna privatised YTLP at RM3 and unlock the hidden value of YTLP at RM5, don't want to share money with you biggrin.gif biggrin.gif.
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post Nov 18 2010, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Nov 18 2010, 10:04 AM)
Edit: Correction on price.

Read a thread in the broadband forum, someone posted YES mobile broadband 'rumoured' pricing is RM0.03 per MB.

It's pay per use, so no contract, no fixed monthly, no Fair usage policy or capped speed and seems to be only targeting the Mobile Internet (Phone with Internet) market for that kind of pricing.

So Streamyx users or any other homebased desktop internet will not in anyway benefit if they are into heavy downloading. No tethering for sure due to price per MB. So definitely no threat to convetional internet providers such as TM or P1.

Casual internet users on their phone who uses less than 500MB per month will benefit.
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Dunno whether I gone crazy or what. I just top up YTLP recently
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post Nov 18 2010, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Nov 18 2010, 10:58 AM)
Wow you are fierce.  rclxms.gif  Good luck and fortune.  notworthy.gif
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Since my TP is RM3-RM5, the upside is still there. Besides, we still can get more div to reinvest. What I'm hoping more is that with SGD and GBP going up, YTLP declaring more div
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post Nov 18 2010, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Nov 18 2010, 03:12 PM)
TP = Target Price
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Hi skidd,

do you know when YTLP gonna announce Q report?
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post Nov 18 2010, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Nov 18 2010, 04:06 PM)
Should be either today or tomorrow.
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Potentially with special div biggrin.gif biggrin.gif tongue.gif

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