Its not fair to compare the graphic quality of the game that u see rite now between the Xbox360 and the PS3. U got to consider that the Xbox360 games demo that shown at E3 are well into the 2nd gen games for the console. Meanwhile the games demo shown for the ps3 are in-development 1st gen games for ps3. To really say which console is better than the other at this point is absurd. I really do think that Nintendo is a stronger fighter for this gen than the last one...

PS2 has always been about the pushing the machine to its limit to create a great game, just like what we've seen in GT series, Gods of War, etc.. I do hope this trend will continue on the PS3. On the other hand, most of the games on the xbox are compelling yet most of them didnt harness the full power of the xbox. Its such a waste really when seeing a lot of power is being wasted like that. Even some of the game on the PS2 are at par with the XBox performance in term of graphic n gameplay. And one game in particular that prove that is Mercenaries: Playground of Destruction. I opted the PS2 version is better than the XBOX.. why just because of the DSII controller (the jellybean like button on the xbox really does suck away all the fun). Both version are almost equal in term of graphic and performance.

As for Nintendo, they put the capital F in "Fun". Most of their games are simple, addictive and enjoyable. Gotta love them for that!!

I personally am waiting for the PS3, but im still keeping and open mind about the XBOX360. And i really want to test Wii .

All and all, its the developers that will help the companies win in this gen. They will work hard to make greater and better games. If they manage to squeeze more effort to it, their games will surely be on the gamers A list. And guess what.. no matter which platform we choose... we still win.. gamers always got the fun while the developer work their @$$ to give us great games ...

Good games all around for next gen!! Cheers!!

if only the tilt contoller can be intergrated into an FPS.. that would add up the appeal for PS3... im sick of playing FPS with 2 analog stick.. its too slow... i just wish that i could held up my controller and shot the heck out of everything... imagine the old days with the tv gun plus the the ability to move around... sweet...

If u think PS3 is expensive... u forgot to consider the price level with current inflation.. neo geo and 3d0 launch during their time is more expensive

check this out!!

http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/games/archives...l_relative.html

and to all of u who thinks sony copy the wii controller.. think again.. sony has patented the technology in 1999... check this out...

http://gaming.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=5630

Think of it this way.. Sony couldnt use the rumble feature for the PS3 contoller because of the legal battle , the use of the rumble feature will only be determined after the battle is over... so they had to substitute it with something.. would u rather have a controller with just button and analog stick but without any additional feature tu replace the shock mechanism... or u could have it with the tilt sensor... i guess Sony is adding value to its product... which is of course benefitting the consumer ...

As for Wiimote.. yeah its cool... super cool .. but.. i dont see how comfortable it is if u want to play sports games or games that requires a lot of button usage... of course u can play golf as if its golf in reality.. just swing it... but.. i dont see much comfort in playing other type of games... plus 2 hand holding one joystick is better than 1 hand holding one joystick each... how long could u hold it without the support of the other arm... even with kboard n mouse u still have to put ur arm down at the table for support... so to me wii means fun but not hours of fun at a time... sound a good reason to buy for parents who dont want their kids playing the game for too long...

And as for the tilting controller from MSoft... what does it do actually? I never knew they got game that support that feature...

Its true that 3DO and Neo Geo both flopped... but i guess u didnt view the chart at all arent you... if u compare it.. it even cheaper than Atari 2600 a.k.a VCS.. which of course the best console in its era... heck PS3 is even cheaper than Saturn... and i even thought Saturn was cheap enough last time silly me

USD 600++ console ultimately flops.. hmm.. nicely put.. but... have u taken into consideration why it flops... surely not just of the price... what ur saying is the same with those people who say PS2 was too expensive at launch... nobody would want to buy it... but Sony prove them wrong too... u got to take into account what did u get with that USD600+... i dont think u understand the relative comparison in that chart.. hmm nevermind.. we stick to the current price...

Its true that Nintendo console is getting cheaper... and u could say successful.. but how successful... Nintendo's market share has drop significantly compared to the days when they compete with sega... all nintendo manage to do till this point is keep them in the game... and Wii might be their saviour is possibility.. but remember Wii main attraction is not the price.. but its innovation...

If u say cheap console will win.. u can get a micro genius for under RM30 nowadays.. yet.. it didnt have any appeal to consumer anymore... all im saying that is cheap price is no guarantee for a console success... even the price cut on the xbox didnt help microsoft that much last time... its the appeal to the console itself... innovation, performance and software libraries ... in malaysia.. u can take one more factor into consideration.. pirates of the carribean... haha...

BTW .. the 1st time NVIDIA and ATI put a card for a price of a complete pc.. people say the same thing too.. yet people still buy the card... hehe.. nowadays even 2 of those cards for CF and SLI... hehe...

You got to remember the fact that majority of the gamers who own consoles nowadays are not kids.. Most of them are young adults... Thats why more n more games company are aiming toward the more matured market... These target market mostly have the abilities to buy their own consoles... Such as us... We dont need our permission to buy the console nor ask them money to buy one ... Unless of course u are still asking money from ur parent to buy one or need their permission to do so...

To discriminate early adopters is unfair.. Because early adopters represent quite a sum of people... not just a few... You want to discriminate early adopters just because they are a few millions of them... Hmm... U get the point... In fact, early adopters are very important since they could help in making the product to a success or flop... Any feedback from these early adopters will affect the sales of the product... Hence this early adopters are the people who u should thank for. .. They are the one who bares the risk of not getting their money worth when they adopt the new products... N they usually tell us whether the product is good or not.. and we usually take their opinion before we buy ...

Yes PS3 is region free kudos Sony
BTW I think Japanese launch price is much more cheaper... 59800 yen = USD 535... correct me if im wrong on this part coz i only found one price for the japanese launch... in which i assume its the higher end version...

So discriminating between EARLY ADOPTERS and regular people isnt discriminating... dude.. ur not making any sense... when discriminate them no matter against who.. u r still discriminating them...

If you want to compare young adult to family... re-think again... 2 out of 3 of the new console right now is designed and targeted the "young-adult" demographic... How many of the 360 games and the PS3 upcoming lineup that u see is designed for "family". Right now the only consoles that concentrate their lineup to be fun for the whole family is Wii. And Nintendo implies a different approach to gaming this time.. by going back to basic... making the game fun and simple... that is why the Wii doesnt emphasize the raw power of the machine.. instead they put it all in the game itself and how you play it...

So all and all... only Nintendo that really targetting the family side of the market in addition to the young-adult... its not that Sony n Msoft didnt want the family market.. but they didnt emphasize that category...

U might not care about the bluray or even the HD-DVD... not to say that i care that much about both format... to some people they just dont care if PS3 have it or not... yet I dont think Sony needs to convince the 120 millions owners of PS2 to buy PS3.. its Msoft and Nintendo that needs to convince them not to select PS3... Most PS2 owners are still looking forward for PS3...

If u want my honest opinion... yeah i do opted for Sony this gen until Msoft or Nintendo could convince me otherwise... the PS2 has proven its worth last gen... and the XBox fall quite far behind... for this gen.. again i will acquire both or even all 3 of them... and see which one is better... all this competition is bringing out the best in each company... its good... i even want to see Nintendo become a top competitors again in this industry... not just trailing behind Msoft and Sony...

This post has been edited by even_steven: May 20 2006, 12:10 AM

I do know what he means by that... but like i said.. u cant discriminate them or in the "corrected" term differentiate... its a part of the market.. n an important part by that... if u make a market research.. n u eliminate this group as a factor... then it wouldnt be a thorough market report.. u couldnt even set this group aside even when u are generally speaking...

A buyer is still a customer n consumer... n thats what makes the market... so.. when ur saying like that.. its make no sense... n BTW if u differentiate them from the rest of the world.. then who r u going to compare the rest of the world with...

I agree with the part where Sony is taking a huge gamble with PS3... but christmas is too early to tell... u need at least a year of the product life on the shelf to see whether Sony is doing it right or wrong... I hate to see them do it wrong.. If Sony flops... then there goes another alternatives to things that are not MSoft... too many MSoft nowadays.. they even make money out of their own mistake.. haiya.. very crappy

This post has been edited by even_steven: May 22 2006, 01:22 AM

dude... remember all the virus and spyware... where does that come from... their OS own weaknesses.. yet now theyre making u to pay to get protection for their weak OS with Msoft Antivirus & Anti Spyware.. wah lau..

on the other hand.. its true sony is everywhere too.. but there are other alternativesto sony rite... Sony got tv.. other company got too.. sony got hp.. other company got too... so theyre not monopolying the market...

BTW the reason im not to eager about 360 is not that i hate Msoft... but Sony has proven its worth in the console industry... and im disspointed by last gen xbox... the exclusive isnt that great and some of it made it to the pc... i really like to play games.. so there is no use for me to buy another system that have games that available on another platform rite... i wasted a lot of my pc power to play games that available on pc with my xbox..

Anyway.. rite now im eager to see more of Crysis.. no matter which platform it hits... it sure gonna be supercool...

More videos for u guys to check out.. and downloadable too... they even got HD content for you guys that are into HD..

www.gametrailers.com

Does anyone here knows what is the expected minimum PC requirement for Crysis?? Its rumoured that it wont be ported to any other platform.. not even the 360.. I guess its time to upgrade the ol gaming rig again...

BTW it is the OS weaknesses that make it possible for the hackers to exploit and do damages with it... hackers wont bother to create all of those nasties if u really got a good system... Msoft is milking windows.. so.. more time is spend on making new ones... not making the existing one fullproff... more money to be made with new OS than giving out free updates...

OS X only got a virus after 2 years of its lifespan... why?? because the system is harder to penetrate... compare that to Windoze... I wont complain on linux because it is free... but u cant deny the fact that it is getting better n better everyday.. there are even linux gamers community nowadays...

I wonder what would happen if people start to use PS3 with linux... cant wait to see it happen...

Fully functional ?? Meaning the PS3 is already loaded with Linux out of the box ??

Dude.. seriously nobody's saying that Mac is special.. im just making a point there.. Mac doesnt have too many viruses because of it is not easy to hack.. unlike windows... and if hackers just concentrate on maximum damages.. then why does the palm OS also get hacked not to mention most new hphone.. most of these hackers are out there testing their skill dude... not just doing damages..

BTW i just read on gamespot that the Wii games preorder price is at USD 59.99 at EBGames... u guys think it will stick to that price or EBGames is just guessing it... If its true that Wii games price are the same as PS3 BD, the Wii will lose a lot of its advantage... that'll be suck for us too...

This post has been edited by even_steven: May 25 2006, 03:20 AM