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post Feb 16 2005, 03:47 PM

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Here's something from the rumour mill.

Xbox 2 release around "late October and early November"

Source : Evil Avatar
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post Feb 23 2005, 09:54 AM

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Here's some interesting details on some problems with the Cell of the PS3 regarding power as well as some insider info on the Xbox 360
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post Feb 24 2005, 11:19 AM

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More dirt on the next gens...

A leaked photo of the Revolution and a possible removable hard-drive for the Xbox 2
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post Mar 5 2005, 01:25 PM

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Nintendo Revolution may alienate 3rd party developers

Not surprising really...
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post Mar 9 2005, 07:08 AM

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Xbox Next info on Gamespy and the Physics Processing Unit are here for your pleasure today...

I know the PPU isn't exactly for Next-gen, but hey, it might...
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post Mar 16 2005, 07:18 AM

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A peak at the next Xbox's launcher
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post Apr 14 2005, 06:33 AM

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Apr 12 2005, 09:05 PM)
The phantom is some of the dumbest idea in decades. It has zero unique selling point.

(1) NO CONSOLE GAMES. - it's just playing standard PC games in a console! Console gamers don't want this sh**.

(2) UNDERPOWERED PC - As PC gamers are more likely to invest in high-end hardware and worry more about FRAMES PER SECOND/3D MARK 05 scores than the game itself, the phantom is outdated even before it hit shelves.

(3) INFERIOR ONLINE GAMING - PC Online gamers and XBOX Live is already well established. There's no need for this.

(4) BROADBAND DOWNLOAD - Not everyone has broadband. it is just limiting it's own market.

Basically console gamers will shun it because there's no console specific games while PC gamers will ignore it because it's an outdated piece of crap.

They should just give me their money to invest in a burger stall or something. laugh.gif
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Just to add, the Phantom will only be available in the US first and likely will never hit the Asian market. Anyway, I still think this is a piece of vaporware and doesn't deserve any attention.

But, I do like its keyboard/mouse combo...
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post Apr 15 2005, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Apr 14 2005, 09:50 AM)
I seriously doubt it can even be released in the US, especially now with all the heat on for XBOX360/PS3. I suppose nobody even remember it!

btw, you can also get keyboard/mouse combo with on XBOX with an adapter.
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I know you can, but the thing is, they made their keyboard and mouse combo in a way that you can use it on a couch (or at least free from the restraints of using a table)

Kinda hard to explain but it was shown at the last E3 and it does seem pretty interesting.
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post Apr 20 2005, 02:09 AM

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The Xbox 360 is rumoured to come in 2 versions... One with a hard drive and another without...
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post Apr 22 2005, 07:35 AM

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Well, to put all doubts to rest, Nintendo is coming to E3... What? Did you really think they were that stupid (and arrogant)?
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^saw that pic earlier... Can't make out much from it aside from the fact that it is chrome.

Anyway, dunno whether this has been posted, but here's some first pictures of the Xenon Development kit for the Xbox 360. Its a Mac G5 in case you're wondering.
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post Apr 22 2005, 09:21 PM

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Here's an interesting bit... A small link to a teaser for the XBox 360 unveiling on MTV... Doesn't show much really, but hey... it does drop some hints.
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Here's some more Xbox 360 pics... One here and another here.
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post Apr 26 2005, 12:52 PM

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Some speculation about the Revolution... Courtesy of IGN

Its gonna feature some form of real-time 3D projection (Like a hologram) and their controller is gonna utilize a touchscreen or gyroscope thingamajig.

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If that's not enough, he goes on. During the ShoWest film conference, a panel featuring George Lucus, Robert Zemekis, James Cameron, Robert Rodriguez, and a satellite feed from Peter Jackson discuss their plans to integrate cheap digital stereoscopic 3D into major theater chains by 2007. Here's where things get interesting: Burgess claims to know an agent who spoke to Robert Rodriguez, stating they knew of a game machine that would exploit this new wave of 3D entertainment well before Hollywood could jump in on the market.

Burgess goes on to say he spoke to an industry friend about his new theory, to which the industry friend said that Nintendo had shown a real-time 3D add-on for GameCube behind closed doors. When? At last year's Electronic Entertainment Expo in Los Angeles. Furthermore, Burgess claims the Revolution will certainly sport wireless controllers, among other, unknown wireless capabilities. Also, according to Burgess, the Revolution controller will feature either a touch-screen or some form of proprietary PDA device.

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Apr 27 2005, 09:06 AM)
3D hologram?? How would they project that? Do you still need a TV than? Or it's just an additional feature of the console?? Interesting.
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Ah, based on some discussion over at Evil Avatar, its probably not gonna be a hologram, but more like a projection with realistic depth...

Remember those special 3D glasses that you could buy and hook up to your Geforce cards in the PC? It works the same way except that you don't need the glasses. It sort of makes images "pop out" so you can define depth of field.
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Apr 27 2005, 02:16 PM)
Interesting...but somehow i think this is a novelty. Sure it'll be nice...for the first few days at least...but after awhile, does it really improve the gameplay? Like the DS...despite all the "originality" claims...not a lot of games is really making use of the idea.

Also...i always have a phobia with these so called 3D effect...(like those wearing the glass)...basically it projects the images in two different colors  (usually the green hue and the red hue) and slightly displaced. With the glasses, it tricks the eye into seeing the same object at different angles....what i'm worried is, WHAT LONG TERM EFFECT DOES IT HAVE ON MY EYES? This is no joke, my eyes isn't worth destroying over some "3D effect". Also, will you get cross eye in the long run?? Who knows.

Anyway, nobody knows what Nintendo have up their sleaves, but if it's something that does some trick to deceive my eyes, they better have an indepth explanation of the long term effects, if any.
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Well, the 3D glasses use a similar system albeit with a different technique. Instead of the monitor projecting separate hues of colour and the glasses having different polaroid lenses, the GeForce glasses used different shutter speeds for each lense, so it framerate on each lense is different (Or is slightly of sync) to give you a change in depth.
Though it doesn't mess with the colour definition of your eyes, it does cause headaches if you play for long...

Which in hindsight would be a stupid move for Nintendo as you're asking ppl to play LESS.
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QUOTE(PrivateJohn @ May 1 2005, 09:59 PM)
It's next generation grahpic...so it appear on all url.
http://xbox360.ign.com/objects/744/744413.html

Like Splinter Cell & Brotherhood in arms...all the games screenshot are taken from xbox and show in most of the advertisement eventhough it's crossplatform.
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Apparently its PC only according to this...
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Here's some leaked info on the Revolution... Its gonna have a pressure sensitive "gamepad" and also FREE online gamplay.
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Behold... The specs for the 360 have been leaked

Here they are:
First, the Live system:
Xbox Live, 2 types:

Xbox Live Silver (no subscription required)
Xbox Live Gold (subscription benefits)

Features for Gold service
* Also for Silver
# Also for Offline

- Seamless transition to Xbox Live account from Xbox to Xbox 360
- Access to MMOs (additional fees may apply) *
- Free Xbox Live weekends *
- Multiplayer online gameplay
- Avatar for gamer profile * #
- Motto for gamer profile * #
- Personalized look for Xbox System Guide * #
- Offline achievments * #
- Online achievements *
- Access to other players' Gamer cards via Live *
- Cumulative gamer score * #
- Location/language profile * #
- Reputation *
- Enahnced matchmaking using above
- Skill level matchmaking
- Gameplay style profile (casual, competitive, etc.)
- Recent players list *
- Free and premium download game content *
- Free and premium downloadable movies, music, tv *
- Downloadable demos/trailers *
- Microtransactions *
- Custom playlist in every game * #
- Play music from portable devices * #
- View images from digital camera * #
- Strem media from Windows XP * #
- Interactive screen savers * #
- Track info for CDs * #
- Communication with voice, video or text *

Second, the specs of the hardware:
1. Support for DVD-video, DVD-Rom, DVD-R/RW, CD-DA, CD-Rom, CD-R, CD-RW, WMA CD, MP3 cd, JPEG photo CD
2. All games supported at 16:9, 720p and 1080i, anti-aliasing
3. Customizable face plates to change appearance
4. 3 USB 2.0 ports
5. Support for 4 wireless controllers
6. Detachable 20GB drive
7. Wi-Fi ready

Custom IBM PowerPC-based CPU
- 3 symmetrical cores at 3.2 GHz each
- 2 hardware threads per core
- 1 VMX-128 vector unit per core
- 1 MB L2 cache

Custom ATI Graphics Processor
- 500 MNz
- 10 MB embedded DRAM
- 48-way parallel floating-point shader pipelines
- unified shader architecture

Memory
-512 MB GDDR3 RAM
- 700 MNz DDR

Memory Bandwidth
- 22.4 GB/s memory interface bus bandwidth
- 256 GB/s memory bandwidth to EDRAM
- 21.6 GB/s frontside bus

Audio
- Mulitchannel surround sond output
- Supports 48khz 16-bit audio
- 320 independent decompression channels
- 32 bit processing
- 256+ audio channels
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QUOTE(silkworm @ May 17 2005, 11:14 AM)
bulky? Looking at the photos at the PS3 thread, we can roughly judge the dimensions of the console:
width is roughly twice of the DVD/CD/BD slot. To fit a 12cm diameter disc, the slot is usually wider, let's say about 13cm. So PS3 width ~ 2 x 13cm = 26cm.

height/thickess is roughly three and a half times of the IEC power connector. The power connector is roughly 2cm high. So PS3 thickness is approximately 3.5 x 2cm = 7cm. Give or take 1cm if I'm cock-eyed.

depth is about 1.5 the diameter of a DVD, so about 18cm.

somebody should shoot the designer of that awful controller though... at least I hope third parties like logitech will adopt a more DS-like shape.
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I think he meant that it just looked larger than the 360... and thus equated that it has to be heavier as well.

And yes, the "Boomepad" (or Controllerang... both are bad puns) looks like it might actually fly back to you when you try to get rid of it... Ingenius dual "use" by Sony? laugh.gif

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