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post Dec 25 2009, 01:58 PM, updated 16y ago

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hello ,

i searched the forum but couldnt find any relevant topics/posts/information

i am getting a specs with transition lens.

went to 5 shops in penang and found out different prices:

in shopping mall: 500, 480, 350 (promotion)
neighbourhood shops: 420, 400

the 350 seems to be promising but i wonder how can they go so cheap compared to other shops.

i am worried that they use some other cheaper photochromic lens and tell me its transition 1, as there are so many lower range lens that can change color now.

so, anyone know how do we identify the lens? will we be given any certs or similar?

please advise, thanks!
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post Dec 25 2009, 02:44 PM

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What's the difference between a transition lens and a photochromic one? Is it just a brand name?
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post Dec 25 2009, 03:42 PM

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i think its the brand name... not too sure too. but heard from my friends that transition changes much faster compared to other brands of photochromatic lenses
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QUOTE(lazo @ Dec 25 2009, 03:42 PM)
i think its the brand name... not too sure too. but heard from my friends that transition changes much faster compared to other brands of photochromatic lenses
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i dun think so for the transition lens change much faster...mine is not transition..only some s'pore brand photochromic also change color quite fast..it's all depend on how much uv ray ur lens has exposed to...
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post Dec 26 2009, 12:54 AM

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i asked one shop in shopping mall, they said rm230++ for my power
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post Dec 26 2009, 01:39 AM

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depending on your power, lenses type and the brand of your transition lenses.

mine is plastic, which is cheaper... the brand i use isn't the high-class version, so costs is lower (which means the transition might be a little slower than normal)

they should have a sample for you to try on, go to a really bright room and see how fast it changes.

if not mistaken, mine costs less than RM300, without compression (my power is higher, so my glasses is slightly thick), with compression? more money. 600-800 power, 1.5cm thick.
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post Dec 26 2009, 11:00 AM

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any way to identify which kind of lens do they give us? branded and non-branded.. the price gap is very big. can get lower end brand for rm90 while the better brands rm400+-
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post Dec 26 2009, 06:16 PM

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well, based on how my (very long time) optometrist, if you want, they will show you the brand names (boxes containing sample lenses - you might need to ask).

the price difference is brand-based (local or overseas)
but quality-wise (depending on how fast it changes colours and how dark it can be), the difference is only the transition and what type of lenses (glass, plastic). then slap a brand on it then the price will soar.

i wouldn't go for the super cheap wan (sounds so dubious) unless there is a guarentee, as mentioned - compare the lenses. by all means, you are allowed to have a look see.

if a bit tebal muka (like my mom and i), we ask the guy to bring them out and explain in details the difference (ours is honest, not pushing sales since he is the owner - and we are regulars biggrin.gif) they shouldn't have only one kind of brand though (unless it is a very small shop, but even so - same as the shop i frequent)

if the price range is within the same shop, discuss with them the difference (and don't let them con you into buying the super expensive - i can guarantee you it isn't really necessary if you are on a budget)
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post Apr 11 2010, 10:22 AM

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hi...i ve bought an essilor tansition lenses for MYR 320, they will provide certificate of authenticacy
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QUOTE(the golden sukuk @ Apr 11 2010, 10:22 AM)
hi...i ve bought an essilor tansition  lenses for MYR 320, they will provide certificate of authenticacy
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certificate?? i bought hoya transition lense and they giv me a card. izzit a same thing??

i damn scare if my lense is a fake ... sad.gif
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post May 4 2010, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(urakei @ Apr 23 2010, 12:11 PM)
certificate?? i bought hoya transition lense and they giv me a card. izzit a same thing??

i damn scare if my lense is a fake ...  sad.gif
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if they give u warranty card sure its original lens.. smile.gif
hoya is a good brand btw
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post May 4 2010, 06:50 PM

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transition got car meh? i bought twice from shop at sunway A -Look. no card.
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QUOTE(airline @ May 4 2010, 06:50 PM)
transition got car meh? i bought twice from shop at sunway A -Look. no card.
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thats means you kena bluff already ? did you go back check with the store ?
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post May 18 2010, 09:37 AM

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if expensive ones...once kena sunlight a bit also start to change colour..

cheap ones probably take awhile..
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post May 24 2010, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ May 18 2010, 09:37 AM)
if expensive ones...once kena sunlight a bit also start to change colour..

cheap ones probably take awhile..
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dunno about that...the transition rate is the same one, but the coating is a bit different. for example Hoya and essilor is a good brand for the coating but the transition rate is still depends on the UV..
For Hoya and essilor got the card. But for the local transition only got the transition card but what matter most that it is still ori and got 1 year warranty for the lens..

Maybe different brand different warranty period ?
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post May 25 2010, 11:01 PM

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transition lens is a brand, but it is a type of photochromic lens, if i am not mistaken. just like tesco pepsi and f&n pepsi, both pepsi, but with different brands.
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QUOTE(shiloong7081 @ May 25 2010, 11:01 PM)
transition lens is a brand, but it is a type of photochromic lens, if i am not mistaken. just like tesco pepsi and f&n pepsi, both pepsi, but with different brands.
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I think its more like graphic card thing Nvidia is the GPU but has a lot of brand like asus, sapphire, zotac n etc...Same goes to Ati..
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post Jun 30 2010, 09:21 PM

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i never bought a glasses b4 n dun hav any long or shortsighted (lastime check few yrs ago). Im thinking to buy a pair of transition or photochromic sunglass... I only knw (if i not mistaken) malaysia got transition, ray ban n hoya brand got tis kind photochromic tech.

Any suggestion?

Want to use it as normal use. No nid special special design frame...i think transition suit me...but transition is sale lens or whole glasses including frame? Or it is jez a spray coating? i reli dunno anythg abt glasses... If transition jez sale lens then any frame oso can hold them?

thx 4 advice smile.gif
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post Jul 1 2010, 12:38 AM

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transition lens do come with a card or auth. double confirm wif the sales person when u are purchasing. or i can recommend u to my fren working at 1 Utama. He's a senior and most of all he's honest when dealing sales..

go ahead to ask more details about the things u wanna know. dun be shy as this is not a really cheap thing.

FYI, i bought my glasses + transition lens = RM800.. erm i think the lens is probably 450-500 gua as i never ask him to itemised.. lol
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update after get mine one

550 for 1.5
1000 for 1.6
1900 for 1.67

hoya
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post Sep 14 2010, 12:22 AM

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will the glass turn darks indoor...cause it will be embrassing.... to wear dark glasses indoor
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post Sep 14 2010, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(HW-Racer @ Sep 14 2010, 12:22 AM)
will the glass turn darks indoor...cause it will be embrassing.... to wear dark glasses indoor
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The lens react to UV light. It's won't turn dark unless the indoor have some UV.
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QUOTE(seecs @ Sep 14 2010, 12:36 AM)
The lens react to UV light. It's won't turn dark unless the indoor have some UV.
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Correct, I ask them to demo her own glasses and quite fast it back to clear when go indoor.
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post Sep 15 2010, 12:15 AM

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I am using transition lenses now

1. will turn darkest if the UV/Matahari very TERIK.

2. In the car if your car got Tinted, Most likely wont turn dark.

3. Inside Shopping Mall, once u get in from hot sun with super dark , very super fast changed back to clear in 5mins..

4. nothing much diff, compare to normal specs just it turn dark, darker, darkest according to the SUN UV...

5. The colour changes, very comfortable.. wink.gif


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No brand Specs + Multi-Focal Lenses + Transition = RM 660.00

How to Identify Original?

1. Certificate of Authenticity
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2. Carl Zeiss Vision Card
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Will take my first spec now at shop. Confirmed on 18/09 and ready today. At first wanna try that transition lense from Essilor but i think i'll not really utilized on my 8 hours office environment. So far the best i get RM400 for 1 pair. Normal right?

After few times thinking, i just endup buying multicoated clear lense with UV400 & EMI that cost me RM100 only. So total with levelnine frame RM350. I hope can see all signboard clearly when driving after this..HahA sweat.gif
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got mine, power 250+250 Essilor crizal+Transitions + Beckham japan frame + free micro-fiber fabric wiper + certificate of authenticity card


all for rm500

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QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Nov 5 2010, 12:03 AM)
got mine, power 250+250 Essilor crizal+Transitions + Beckham japan frame + free micro-fiber fabric wiper  + certificate of authenticity card
all for rm500
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did u get your carl zeiss card? unsure.gif
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post Nov 5 2010, 03:07 PM

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450 without coating
550 with coating both hoya.
there was one above 1k but didnt dare ask
used something cheaper before but after awhile it didnt went to crystal clear abit yellowish for some reason.

they said expensive cause for extra coating and thinner glass.
how dark n sensitive also an isue is whut they say. (hard to noticed i guess)
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post Nov 5 2010, 04:43 PM

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Don't bother with Transition lens if your power is high unless you really really want it. Because it is thicker than normal lens so you really need high index lens which is very very expensive. Lens normally last 1-3 years before it gets scratched one way or another.

Get a clip on instead.

Also it's not efficient for driving since less UV gets in the car so it won't turn as dark as you want it to.

New types turn black and back to normal pretty fast.
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hey guys, is there any prescription sunglasses available. If yes, please tell me the price range in Malaysia.

Thanks
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Erm, just bought a transition lens glasses.

I should ask for the authentic card right? And, why titanium frame so expensive....? last but not least, it is awkward that some shop ask my reading before stating the price but some shop can right away tell me the price....why is it so?
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QUOTE(Ivangile @ Nov 10 2010, 03:17 PM)
Erm, just bought a transition lens glasses.

I should ask for the authentic card right? And, why titanium frame so expensive....? last but not least, it is awkward that some shop ask my reading before stating the price but some shop can right away tell me the price....why is it so?
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you shouldnt have asked..

u shud get at least 2 cards

1. Transition Lens Authenticity
2. Carl Zeis Vision Warranty Card (if you are using Carl Zeis Lens - because it gives 1yr warranty of manufacturing defects, if any)

they SHOULD give you when they pass you your glasses.

Pls go to the shop, and ask for it as in the market now a lot of FAKE transition lens ..as the unker told me when i was doing my transition lens few months back.

Some even charged like RM 300+ only for Frame + Transition Lens, no way it will be that cheap.

Usually they will check your eye sight power, then only choose specs, then only they will tell you he price of everything..

depending on the frame that you chooses & the power of your eyesight & the lens that you are going to use (multi-focal or not multi-focal?) + Hoya or NOT hoya (the lens brand)

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I haven't got mine yet, but the lens i bought is from the transition optical (index 1.5 RM380 nt including frame), so if when i take, he should gave me 1 authentic card from transition optical and 1 from lens?

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QUOTE(advocado @ Nov 5 2010, 04:43 PM)
Don't bother with Transition lens if your power is high unless you really really want it. Because it is thicker than normal lens so you really need high index lens which is very very expensive. Lens normally last 1-3 years before it gets scratched one way or another.

Get a clip on instead.

Also it's not efficient for driving since less UV gets in the car so it won't turn as dark as you want it to.

New types turn black and back to normal pretty fast.
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What the range for high-power that makes Transition very very expensive ?
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QUOTE(Ivangile @ Nov 11 2010, 12:15 PM)
I haven't got mine yet, but the lens i bought is from the transition optical (index 1.5 RM380 nt including frame), so if when i take, he should gave me 1 authentic card from transition optical and 1 from lens?
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yes if its authentic .. smile.gif

u will get a transition lens card x 1

and

carl zeis card x 1 (if you are using carl zeis lenses)

*u will get the card exactly like mine, at post #24*

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i just had my glasses made w/ essilor lenses, cost me rm1100 for the lense only cos' of high index 1.7. u guys think this is overpriced? cry.gif
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QUOTE(surefire @ Feb 16 2011, 03:56 PM)
i just had my glasses made w/ essilor lenses, cost me rm1100 for the lense only cos' of high index 1.7. u guys think this is overpriced? cry.gif
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so overpriced...shud just go wif carl zeiss..your lense will have somekind of zeiss mark on it..people will notice..cool huh? hehe brows.gif
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post Mar 4 2011, 07:33 PM

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me Sub eyeware frame n transition lens = RM 250.. hehe with certificate of authenticacy..

Staff price... hehe :-)
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my power is 800-900 for both eyes, will it be expensive if go for transition? how much roughly?


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QUOTE(jeanhl @ Mar 4 2011, 10:57 PM)
my power is 800-900 for both eyes, will it be expensive if go for transition? how much roughly?
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I'm getting one similar spec it costs RM180
But it's not Transition brand, it's called Magic Sun Visor
Which provide same function with Transition but it turn darker slower
Is that price reasonable?
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if my power both side also more than 600, can i opt for cheaper transition alternatives? Where can i do it? Can recommend a shop in KL?
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QUOTE(urakei @ Apr 23 2010, 12:11 PM)
certificate?? i bought hoya transition lense and they giv me a card. izzit a same thing??

i damn scare if my lense is a fake ...  sad.gif
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for hoya usually they give card thatt shows that you bought an original one. the important thing is the warranty not the card lorr


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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Mar 7 2011, 09:29 PM)
if my power both side also more than 600, can i opt for cheaper transition alternatives? Where can i do it? Can recommend a shop in KL?
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as your power is quite higher, you might need a high index lens and if you want your lens to be transition, it might cost a bit... between hoya and essilor, i think hoya is the best for transition..because Hoya transition last longer than essilor...but hoya is more expensive than essilor...


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QUOTE(lazo @ Dec 25 2009, 01:58 PM)
hello ,

i searched the forum but couldnt find any relevant topics/posts/information

i am getting a specs with transition lens.

went to 5 shops in penang and found out different prices:

in shopping mall: 500, 480, 350 (promotion)
neighbourhood shops: 420, 400

the 350 seems to be promising but i wonder how can they go so cheap compared to other shops.

i am worried that they use some other cheaper photochromic lens and tell me its transition 1, as there are so many lower range lens that can change color now.

so, anyone know how do we identify the lens? will we be given any certs or similar?

please advise, thanks!
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that is also transition i think but from a different company..ILT talent transition cost only Rm380 sumtin compare to Hoya and essilor transition..transition and photochromic lens are 2 different thing...you can easily recognize if they give you photochomic lens...photocromic lens gets darker slower compare to the transition when expose to sunlight...for authentification, Hoya might gave u a card and essilor might gave you a certificate

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QUOTE(seph3232 @ Mar 11 2011, 10:41 AM)
for hoya usually they give card thatt shows that you bought an original one. the important thing is the warranty not the card lorr


Added on March 11, 2011, 10:44 am

as your power is quite higher, you might need a high index lens and if you want your lens to be transition, it might cost a bit... between hoya and essilor, i think hoya is the best for transition..because Hoya transition last longer than essilor...but hoya is more expensive than essilor...


Added on March 11, 2011, 10:49 am
that is also transition i think but from a different company..ILT talent transition cost only Rm380 sumtin compare to Hoya and essilor transition..transition and photochromic lens are 2 different thing...you can easily recognize if they give you photochomic lens...photocromic lens gets darker slower compare to the transition when expose to sunlight...for authentification, Hoya might gave u a card and essilor might gave you a certificate
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i tok transition is a trade mark 4 essilor?! So Hoya oso got transition lah?! I heard transition lens not hard enuf. They will break... So got once i search 4 hoya trivex tech, super hard enuf! Eventhou tis type of material cant turn black (i guess) but they stil can block UV. Hoping found TRANSITION + TRIVEX ~ Last longer smile.gif
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QUOTE(yeelin04 @ Sep 15 2010, 12:15 AM)
How to Identify Original?

1. Certificate of Authenticity
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2. Carl Zeiss Vision Card
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just bought mine for RM500 with cCertificate of Authenticity only. how come they never give Carl Zeiss Vision Card?
my power is 450 & 250

how to know which type is it? Hoya or essilor?
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1 Oakley Bucket USD 180.00 Item(s) in Cart :1 of 1

Color: Black Pallet - Size 51 (OX1060-0351)
Size:51/17-140
Lens: Single Vision
Material: (1.59) Polycarbonate Seiko Pentax USD 78.75
Addons:
Transitions® VI Light Adjusting (Brown) USD 70.00
Seiko Pentax Anti Reflective USD 44.95
Ultraviolet Protection USD 0.00
Edge Polish USD 0.00
Scratch Coating USD 0.00
SUB TOTAL: USD 373.70

i right now save money to buy oakley eyeglasses with transitions lens
total price around RM 1200, you guys can order designer frame and lens at http://www.framesdirect.com/

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why need to order there? its not like its cheaper
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QUOTE(kei18kun @ Mar 18 2011, 09:00 AM)
why need to order there? its not like its cheaper
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here the frame i like don't have, maybe just order the frame only and do the lense here:-)
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wow. the frame alone cost few hundred already tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kei18kun @ Mar 19 2011, 08:12 AM)
wow. the frame alone cost few hundred already tongue.gif
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i like the design bro what the hell tongue.gif
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yalah, if u like something really alot, you'll be willing to spend. totally agree smile.gif
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Hey guys,
i was wondering do we need to wait like few days/weeks for the lens to be prepared? Cos I was planning to use the frame that i'm currently using~ so scared if i placed my order dy i'll have no specs to wear. >.<
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mine ready in 2 days
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QUOTE(kei18kun @ Mar 25 2011, 05:56 PM)
mine ready in 2 days
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2 day ar~~~
hmm...then i think i better get it before i start working...
can't work without lens. =x=
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since it seems like they need to order it from kl

should i get a refund or replacement since the guy doesn't seem to know how to adjust the frame to fit me. It slide to the end of my nose if its oily
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QUOTE(kei18kun @ Mar 15 2011, 12:06 PM)
just bought mine for RM500 with cCertificate of Authenticity only. how come they never give Carl Zeiss Vision Card?
my power is 450 & 250

how to know which type is it? Hoya or essilor?
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hey there.

Certificate of Authenticity is to show you that u bought an ORI transition lense..

as for Carl Zeiss Vision Card - if u r using Carl Zeiss Lenses then u will get 1, for warranty 1yr in any manufacturing defects.

as for the lense type whether is Hoya or Essilor, we wont know cos usually optician only will knows - as for all, who knows if they lied to you, unless u ask them whether yours is Hoya or Essilor smile.gif

I bought mine for RM 660 - Frame, Ori Transition & Carl Zeiss Lense
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whoa. Carl Zeiss lens! drool.gif

i got mine for rm180..Hoya lens.. new shop so they doing promotion.. biggrin.gif
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lol, good promotion
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QUOTE(zstan @ Mar 26 2011, 04:37 PM)
whoa. Carl Zeiss lens! drool.gif

i got mine for rm180..Hoya lens.. new shop so they doing promotion.. biggrin.gif
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original or not??

cos fake 1 is that price + will spoil your eyes 1 geh..

QUOTE(kei18kun @ Mar 27 2011, 07:48 AM)
lol, good promotion
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all too true however sometimes do have offer although in this case its true we won't know what kind of lens they're giving us
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QUOTE(kei18kun @ Mar 28 2011, 04:31 PM)
all too true however sometimes do have offer although in this case its true we won't know what kind of lens they're giving us
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maybe cheap cheap lens..

because all original transition lens comes with certificate of authenticity, that will be the BEST prove of all thumbup.gif
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just ask the person which type he's giving me, hoya or essilor. He just says its Carl Zeiss lens. Not sure he knows what he's talking about or not
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QUOTE(kei18kun @ Mar 29 2011, 11:27 PM)
just ask the person which type he's giving me, hoya or essilor. He just says its Carl Zeiss lens. Not sure he knows what he's talking about or not
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now time to TEMBAK him kau kau...

ask him, if its Carl Zeis Lens, then WHERE is the Carl Zeis Warranty Card??
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got the card. its at the back of the transition card, got mention carl zeiss
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QUOTE(kei18kun @ Mar 30 2011, 03:44 PM)
got the card. its at the back of the transition card, got mention carl zeiss
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u r supposed to get 2 cards yah..
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QUOTE(kei18kun @ Mar 31 2011, 05:28 PM)
thats the funny thing tongue.gif
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go n ask again...

print out n show them tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kei18kun @ Apr 1 2011, 10:50 PM)
lol, good idea
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QUOTE(yeelin04 @ Apr 2 2011, 11:15 PM)
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Added on April 4, 2011, 2:48 pmhi..i'm a bit confused..i got a pair of photochromic specs recently..it's not carl zeiss lens, just essilor's transition lens. is that good enough?

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QUOTE(yeelin04 @ Mar 27 2011, 09:25 PM)
original or not??

cos fake 1 is that price + will spoil your eyes 1 geh..
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cheap things no good, good things no cheap  laugh.gif
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i doubt fake lens will spoilt your eyes. lens is always lens, if prescribed at correct vision, it will not harm your eyes. just that cheaper lens will not provide much protection as transition lens react to UV.
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Added on April 4, 2011, 2:48 pmhi..i'm a bit confused..i got a pair of photochromic specs recently..it's not carl zeiss lens, just essilor's transition lens. is that good enough?
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hey ya, as what i know Original Transition specs comes with Carl Zeiss Lens, i am not sure with others but from what i got my specs is yes..

of cos different lenses have their own positive n negative effects, it just that is your photochromic lens original??

QUOTE(leanman @ Apr 5 2011, 02:12 PM)
i doubt fake lens will spoilt your eyes. lens is always lens, if prescribed at correct vision, it will not harm your eyes. just that cheaper lens will not provide much protection as transition lens react to UV.
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y wouldn't it spoil our eyes? do u know how harmful is UV to our eyes??
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QUOTE(yeelin04 @ Mar 27 2011, 09:25 PM)
original or not??

cos fake 1 is that price + will spoil your eyes 1 geh..
=_=''

cheap things no good, good things no cheap  laugh.gif
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original la of course...

QUOTE(yeelin04 @ Mar 29 2011, 07:27 PM)
maybe cheap cheap lens..

because all original transition lens comes with certificate of authenticity, that will be the BEST prove of all  thumbup.gif
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so far only carl zeiss gives certificates...hoya does not...

QUOTE(yeelin04 @ Apr 5 2011, 03:08 PM)
hey ya, as what i know Original Transition specs comes with Carl Zeiss Lens, i am not sure with others but from what i got my specs is yes..

of cos different lenses have their own positive n negative effects, it just that is your photochromic lens original??
y wouldn't it spoil our eyes? do u know how harmful is UV to our eyes??
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you think only carl zeiss can manufacture transition lens mer... doh.gif

Photochromic lens has nothing to do with UV light protection lor... it's the UV protection coating applied on the lens which protects your eyes from UV rays la. rclxub.gif
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then my lens should be ok since have carl zeiss logo
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just share some information here ,
how do prove that is a transition lens
1.certificate of authenticity card
2.lens packaging (verify ur power is the same on the packaging,this is very important) .

diff brand ,diff price
1.essilor ,hoya, carl zeiss (very good quality)
2.BBGR +SC coating(very small diff as above)
3.ILT + steel coating(a bit lower grade than 2 above)
4.others ( not worth to try)

hope u guys can enjoy UR transition lenses


Added on April 7, 2011, 11:52 pmthere r 2 type of changing color lenses on the market
1.Transition
2.Photochromic(sunactive,magic sun visor n...................so many brand)

Transition
1.more expensive
2.change color darker n faster
3.darkest abt 75 or 76 % at 35°C
4.quality assured , lifespan abt 3years

Photochromic
1.budget ,cheaper.
2.color not so dark n fast
3.easy become yellowish
4.change color slower after some time.

both of them wont change darker in the car.

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transition lifespan only 3 years?! i thought its forever, next time will be wearing normal spec only plus another sunglasses
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transition + sunglasses = perfect

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i thought transition is sunglasses already?
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QUOTE(yeelin04 @ Apr 5 2011, 03:08 PM)
hey ya, as what i know Original Transition specs comes with Carl Zeiss Lens, i am not sure with others but from what i got my specs is yes..

of cos different lenses have their own positive n negative effects, it just that is your photochromic lens original??
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Mine's original. it came with an essilor certificate of authentication. i think i understand now, both our specs are transition lens, only yours is by carl zeiss and mine by essilor ^^
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I just made a spec with transition lenses from Carl Zeiss SV TransVI GR 1.60 UTMC.
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QUOTE(yeelin04 @ Mar 27 2011, 09:25 PM)
original or not??

cos fake 1 is that price + will spoil your eyes 1 geh..
=_=''

cheap things no good, good things no cheap  laugh.gif
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any way the check either real or fake lens?
or just based on warranty card?
all the lens will came with warranty card?

thanks.


Added on April 11, 2011, 7:54 pm
QUOTE(zstan @ Apr 5 2011, 03:42 PM)
original la of course...
so far only carl zeiss gives certificates...hoya does not...
you think only carl zeiss can manufacture transition lens mer...  doh.gif

Photochromic lens has nothing to do with UV light protection lor... it's the UV protection coating applied on the lens which protects your eyes from UV rays la.  rclxub.gif
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what type of HOYA's lens?
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Added on April 11, 2011, 7:57 pm
QUOTE(urakei @ Apr 23 2010, 12:11 PM)
certificate?? i bought hoya transition lense and they giv me a card. izzit a same thing??

i damn scare if my lense is a fake ...  sad.gif
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can show us how's the hoya card?

thanks..

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My brother's pair uses Hoya lenses. He said the transition effect comes faster than mine (Carl Zeiss). Is that true?
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QUOTE(yeelin04 @ Sep 15 2010, 12:15 AM)
1. Certificate of Authenticity
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mine is this card only


Added on April 11, 2011, 9:05 pm
QUOTE(David83 @ Apr 11 2011, 08:30 PM)
My brother's pair uses Hoya lenses. He said the transition effect comes faster than mine (Carl Zeiss). Is that true?
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even if its true, i still trust the famous Carl Zeiss brand

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mine is this card only


Added on April 11, 2011, 9:05 pm
even if its true, i still trust the famous Carl Zeiss brand
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You should get another card that displays the lenses power (SPH, CYL, AXIS and ADD) for R and L with model of the lenses as well.

I received two cards.
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QUOTE(jgu1644 @ Apr 7 2011, 11:44 PM)
just share some information here ,
how do prove that is a transition lens
1.certificate of authenticity card
2.lens packaging (verify ur power is the same on the packaging,this is very important) .

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Mine is essilor, but only with the certificate of authenticity card. im not aware of anything about the lens packaging. does this mean i've been conned? >.<
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QUOTE(kaolatman @ Apr 12 2011, 01:01 PM)
Mine is essilor, but only with the certificate of authenticity card. im not aware of anything about the lens packaging. does this mean i've been conned? >.<
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essilor is the lens..its should be authenticated with the certificate of authenticity card.
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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Apr 12 2011, 01:49 PM)
essilor is the lens..its should be authenticated with the certificate of authenticity card.
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actually Essilor is a lens company and transition is a product from transition company.
alot of lens company oso can bring in this transition lens so if essilor bring it its called
essilor transition so it has alot as hoya transition,ao transition and etc.but the diff is diff
company may apply diff coating on the lens as essilor have crizal and etc. and diff company
may provide diff authenticity card. sweat.gif sweat.gif

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can say that each lens company have their own transition lens...

Transitions lenses were first produced by Transitions Optical in 1991
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Carl Zeiss, Hoya, Essilor, Solar and etc are lenses manufacturer.

Transitions Optical owns the proprietary technology for photochromic lenses technology. The first commercially successful plastic photochromic lens was introduced by Transitions Optical in 1991.
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so far so good
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between Carl Zeiss, Hoya, Essilor ..
which lens is good for price around rm250 without transition..
lens power around 2xx - 3xx

using half frame..

thanks..
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i bought crizal essilor transitions lense...it's 1.5 CR...i got crizal cloth and certificate of authenticity....rm 300 for lens
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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Apr 13 2011, 08:43 AM)
between Carl Zeiss, Hoya, Essilor ..
which lens is good for price around rm250 without transition..
lens power around 2xx - 3xx

using half frame..

thanks..
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i'll prefer Carl Zeiss
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Just back from Jusco Bukit Tinggi, Klang ... 2 shop, optical 88 (essilor Transition) - RM 1300 after discount ... MOG (Essilor Transitiopn RM 900) ... 1.67 ..

Demm .. I'm writing without glasses now ..I'm quite shocked after heard the price .. my photo-chrome glass only cost me RM 350 6 years ago and they tell me they don't have my type already .. all need to be Transition .. demm vmad.gif

Is it really true? icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(Irzani @ May 5 2011, 11:42 PM)
Just back from Jusco Bukit Tinggi, Klang ... 2 shop, optical 88 (essilor Transition) - RM 1300 after discount ... MOG (Essilor Transitiopn RM 900) ... 1.67 ..

Demm .. I'm writing without glasses now ..I'm quite shocked after heard the price .. my photo-chrome glass only cost me RM 350 6 years ago and they tell me they don't have my type already .. all need to be Transition .. demm vmad.gif

Is it really true?  icon_question.gif
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MOG price is reasonable if it is 1.67 lens...
how much are your power?can take 1.6 or even 1.5 if your power not too high..will be cheaper anyway...

not all need to be transition..
there are still alot type of lens out there...
they just try to con u to buy expensive lens
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just compare few more shops, simple
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QUOTE(Irzani @ May 5 2011, 11:42 PM)
Just back from Jusco Bukit Tinggi, Klang ... 2 shop, optical 88 (essilor Transition) - RM 1300 after discount ... MOG (Essilor Transitiopn RM 900) ... 1.67 ..

Demm .. I'm writing without glasses now ..I'm quite shocked after heard the price .. my photo-chrome glass only cost me RM 350 6 years ago and they tell me they don't have my type already .. all need to be Transition .. demm vmad.gif

Is it really true?  icon_question.gif
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Hi Irzani, may I know what is your power? as I was quoted higher for an Essilor Transition lens, due to my high astig. My astig is 400(L) and 250®, was told high astig at 400, lenses will be expensive, is it true?




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QUOTE(klaatu08 @ Jun 27 2011, 02:31 AM)
Hi Irzani, may I know what is your power? as I was quoted higher for an Essilor Transition lens, due to my high astig.  My astig is 400(L) and 250®, was told high astig at 400, lenses will be expensive, is it true?
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Just a quick question, what is the difference between 1.67 and 1.5?
Hoya Transition - RM400; Carl Zeiss Transtion - RM450, which one is better and more worth? Thanks.
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QUOTE(0115 @ Jul 13 2011, 10:42 AM)
Just a quick question, what is the difference between 1.67 and 1.5?
Hoya Transition - RM400;  Carl Zeiss Transtion - RM450, which one is better and more worth? Thanks.
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if I am not mistaken, high index lenses are thinner and lighter then conventional lenses, the higher the index the thinner and lighter it is.

Just got myself a Varilux Comfort high index 1.59 lenses... smile.gif
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You guys got it so cheap. 3 years ago I got my Essilor Airwear Transition Crizal 1.591 lens for RM1000 a pair. Exactly 2 years ago I made another so called Transition lens overseas, found out the lens was not as thin, as light and as flat, which enough to cause headache. After comparison from other shops, got to know it is because of Airwear lens, which being thinner, lighter and flat, more importantly it is polycarbonate resin, ultra strong for frameless.

A week ago I made another pair of lens with Essilor Airwear Trans Crizal again, price after bargaining was still RM900 a pair. After reading most got it at half the price, I wonder are yours polycarbonate as well?

My other non transition Essilor Airwear lens also cost me RM300 a pair.
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QUOTE(niel @ Jul 31 2011, 01:09 PM)
You guys got it so cheap. 3 years ago I got my Essilor Airwear Transition Crizal 1.591 lens for RM1000 a pair. Exactly 2 years ago I made another so called Transition lens overseas, found out the lens was not as thin, as light and as flat, which enough to cause headache. After comparison from other shops, got to know it is because of Airwear lens, which being thinner, lighter and flat, more importantly it is polycarbonate resin, ultra strong for frameless.

A week ago I made another pair of lens with Essilor Airwear Trans Crizal again, price after bargaining was still RM900 a pair. After reading most got it at half the price, I wonder are yours polycarbonate as well?

My other non transition Essilor Airwear lens also cost me RM300 a pair.
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do u mind to share what is your power? I got my pretty expensive sweat.gif

my astig is high (400), was told that the high astig lenses are expensive, is it true?

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do u mind to share what is your power?  I got my pretty expensive  sweat.gif 

my astig is high (400), was told that the high astig lenses are expensive, is it true?
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I am below 250 around same price as niel.
It is more exp for your case, like my sister lens

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I am below 250 around same price as niel.
It is more exp for your case, like my sister lens
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ic, so is true that high astig lenses are more expensive.

thanks


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Just to share, I got my transition lens recently.
Power is around 375 each side. Using 1.6 index.
The price of the lens is around RM750+-, brand is Essilor.
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Actually you guys can request for the Transition lens boxes. It always have different company produce transition lens. One of them is Younger Optics.
And of cos Transition lens is expensive because of the cost of making it. They do have photochromic lens in the market. You just need to find the right optical shops.

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Added on August 10, 2011, 11:03 amIn order to identify whether you guys get the genuine transition lens... Bring it to outdoor with sun UV for 5 minutes, and bring it back to indoor. If the lens turn out to be all white.. its the genuine.

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If not mistaken Transition provide the coating to lens maker like Hoya, Carl Z etc. etc. Lens price much more expensive in malaysia than in USA. In USA you can get Trasition even from Walmart store. No kidding!

If you guys are from Selangor try dropping in Eye Care Eentre in SEGI's UC at Kota Damansara (there Segi offer degree in optometry). Make your spec there. You can even bring a frame that you fancy as frame selection there may not like be your liking. Made my spec in JB with Transition with 1.5 index essilor progressive lens. RM800+. Said to be best offer!.

Those who finally done their specs in Segi UC please put up a post.
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QUOTE(liewmasai @ Aug 14 2011, 05:51 PM)
If not mistaken Transition provide the coating to lens maker like Hoya, Carl Z etc. etc. Lens price much more expensive in malaysia than in USA. In USA you can get Trasition even from Walmart store. No kidding!

If you guys are from Selangor try dropping in Eye Care Eentre in SEGI's UC at Kota Damansara (there Segi offer degree in optometry). Make your spec there. You can even bring a frame that you fancy as frame selection there may not like be your liking. Made my spec in JB with Transition with 1.5 index essilor progressive lens. RM800+. Said to be best offer!.

Those who finally done their specs in Segi UC please put up a post.
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may I know which mode of essilor progressive lens u bought?

Becoz the price I paid is very much different from yours.........maybe I was conned kao kao doh.gif


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may I know which mode of essilor progressive lens u bought?

Becoz the price I paid is very much different from yours.........maybe I was conned kao kao  doh.gif
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Transition Essilor progressive lens, Adaptar 2 1.5 index Crizal A2. How much you kena for yours?.
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QUOTE(liewmasai @ Aug 15 2011, 09:51 PM)
Transition Essilor progressive lens, Adaptar 2 1.5 index Crizal A2. How much you kena for yours?.
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mine is Essilor Varilux Comfort progressive lens with transition, 1.59 index, my astig is high at 400. Kena at 1.7K
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QUOTE(klaatu08 @ Aug 15 2011, 10:04 PM)
mine is Essilor Varilux Comfort progressive lens with transition, 1.59 index, my astig is high at 400.  Kena at 1.7K
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Your being Essilor Varilux lens and 1.6index should cost, at least, another RM400. Maybe your frame is higher end. My frame about RM210. Therefore lens is nearly RM630. Like I said, those in Selangor should try to do their spec in Segi UC.
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QUOTE(liewmasai @ Aug 16 2011, 08:08 PM)
Your being Essilor Varilux lens and 1.6index should cost, at least, another RM400. Maybe your frame is higher end. My frame about RM210. Therefore lens is nearly RM630. Like I said, those in Selangor should try to do their spec in Segi UC.
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Hmm, just go for a new full frame specs without transition, checked my eye power, still remained same, no increase at all and he is a good optician, well recommended
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Hmm, just go for a new full frame specs without transition, checked my eye power, still remained same, no increase at all and he is a good optician, well recommended
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any1 can advise the price for the following spec?

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power =325-350
shortsight =100

Left eye
power =100
shortsight =325-350

no branded frame + transition + normal index

I am not sure which lense is better since I am using Hoya lense for 6 years ago until now.
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any1 can advise the price for the following spec?

Left eye
power =325-350
shortsight =100

Left eye
power =100
shortsight =325-350

no branded frame + transition + normal index

I am not sure which lense is better since I am using Hoya lense for 6 years ago until now.
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the world best lens is Carl Zeis, its better to get carl zeiss lens for your transition ^^
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Just got a hi index transitions lens with frame for about RM550. My power is about 500 for both eyes astig around 100-150.
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Just got a hi index transitions lens with frame for about RM550. My power is about 500 for both eyes astig around 100-150.
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May I know what is the index value? 1.6, 1.71, etc?
What is the manufacturer? Essilor, Hoya, etc?
Which optometrist?

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Bought my transition lens, Essilor 1.6 index, power is 450 + 100 astimagtise, price of lens is 660. Consider expensive?
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QUOTE(cdspins @ Nov 28 2011, 11:15 AM)
Bought my transition lens, Essilor 1.6 index, power is 450 + 100 astimagtise, price of lens is 660. Consider expensive?
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hello, nice thread here. how much for lense essilor crizal no transition.? nowdays, too many shop, with vary diffrent price. i got my frame, just asking for lense price. tq.
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How much the price for Transition Carl Zeiss Lens Power 900++ for both eyes ?

What is your recommend shop? Focus Point or others

Thanks.

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i found in VIVA 250 straight away buy one
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anybody have the carl zeiss transition lenses...?
please post up the sample pictures...
i want to have a look before kena tipu...
bcoz some of u said they have some kind of a trademark on the lens
hehehe thank u so much! thumbup.gif
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Hi, we doing promotion for Essilor transition. Please pm me your glasses power and I will quote the price.

It comes with Essilor warranty card and lens cloth. Thank you.
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just bought a glasses with transition lens cost RM498 at best look eyewear sdn bhd at sabah. this price consider ok?
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Dnt use Hoya lenses, i ve just damaged my left eye after was recommended by the optical shop. It was a low quality lenses n expensive too. Maybe the shop has potong my neck also. Thou they ve changes the left lense for me n i do noticed tat the color of both lense are now diff - one re blue another re pruple. Now i ve to spend more few hundreds ringgit at eye specialist n cld not diagnosed my eye problem.

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This is an interesting thread.

I am in the market for a new pair of specs and being the hardy careless types, i usually would not spend more than rm 450 over a pair of glasses.

My power is -7.00 in both eyes.

My last cost of glasses were RM420 for the frames and lens. I think my lest cost me abt rm250, high index multi coated glass lens. index 1.67.

prefer glasses cos hard to scratch and cheaper.

that was more than a year ago.

Today, I walked in to an optical store and had a big shock.

was quoted rm990 for normal essilor lens (glass) and rm440 for normal essilor plastic.

The hoya lens were also in that regions. I was told glass more expensice now.

WTF!!?? Can anyone advise me if pricing for prescription lenses have gone up?

or what is the normal price these days?

Thanks in advance!
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QUOTE(sudha @ Sep 5 2012, 01:54 PM)
This is an interesting thread.

I am in the market for a new pair of specs and being the hardy careless types, i usually would not spend more than rm 450 over a pair of glasses.

My power is -7.00 in both eyes.

My last cost of glasses were RM420 for the frames and lens. I think my lest cost me abt rm250, high index multi coated glass lens. index 1.67.

prefer glasses cos hard to scratch and cheaper.

that was more than a year ago.

Today, I walked in to an optical store and had a big shock.

was quoted rm990 for normal essilor lens (glass) and rm440 for normal essilor plastic.

The hoya lens were also in that regions. I was told glass more expensice now.

WTF!!?? Can anyone advise me if pricing for prescription lenses have gone up?

or what is the normal price these days?

Thanks in advance!
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I just got apair of hoya multi coated/focus lens earlier these year for rm420 (w/o multi coat rm280) after it was recommended by the optical shop. To my dismay the len seem to be off low quality n scratches easily. Two years ago, when i use soho transition lenses (rm500) are more resistance to scratch. Yes, in these day glass len prices are shooting up ridiculously. Thou it sld ve been suppose cheaper thn a plastic len. Maybe it was just a marketing gimmicks. Last time the optical shop do told me plastic len are more expensive n now vice verses. Try to shop at the older optical shop, you may get a much reasonable quote. Within your eyes power, you don't need to ve a prescriptions lenses. Don't get cheated, there are lots of fake lenses at the market in these days too. Btw, why don't you use the ordinary lenses only? It cost around rm70-80 per pair? If get stretched, you can change it anyway.

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seem nobody answer the question...

the diff btw transition lens n photochromic lens is the material
transition is the multicoate changing colour
photochromic is the whole len changing colour.

transition is a product brand. hoya, essilor, AO these supplier take transition lens from transition.
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guys,
fyi, i just bought carl zeiss lens (photofusion).
BUT there is not warranty card.

When i ask for the warranty card, she just says that she can check from the system.

Bought it at Focus Point, Terminal 1 Seremban.

I am thinking to go there and ask again for the warranty card.
If she still insist to give me the warranty card, i will report to "TRIBUNAL PENGGUNA".

To those who using Carl ZeissPhotofusion lens, can you please provide me what should i get instead warranty card?

Thanks.

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I just change my lens to photochromic lens, my power is -5.50 left and -5.25 right. It cost me about RM 60.00 (change lens only) in Kuching. It feels good, change to black in seconds and change back to clear in seconds when go inside house. I just wonder if cheaper lens has side effect to our eyes?


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I just change my lens to photochromic lens, my power is -5.50 left and -5.25 right. It cost me about RM 60.00 (change lens only) in Kuching. It feels good, change to black in seconds and change back to clear in seconds when go inside house. I just wonder if cheaper lens has side effect to our eyes?
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It is a plastic photochromic lens

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QUOTE(sudha @ Sep 5 2012, 12:54 PM)
This is an interesting thread.

I am in the market for a new pair of specs and being the hardy careless types, i usually would not spend more than rm 450 over a pair of glasses.

My power is -7.00 in both eyes.

My last cost of glasses were RM420 for the frames and lens. I think my lest cost me abt rm250, high index multi coated glass lens. index 1.67.

prefer glasses cos hard to scratch and cheaper.

that was more than a year ago.

Today, I walked in to an optical store and had a big shock.

was quoted rm990 for normal essilor lens (glass) and rm440 for normal essilor plastic.

The hoya lens were also in that regions. I was told glass more expensice now.

WTF!!?? Can anyone advise me if pricing for prescription lenses have gone up?

or what is the normal price these days?

Thanks in advance!
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for you power around 4xx
steel coating brands 1.67 frame +lens (high Astigmatism>200)
hoya brands 1.67 frame+lens .
if astigmatism>200 wan hoya will be very expensive cause need 1.71

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Just bought my first transition glasses. First I wanna buy one just for night driving only but they ask me to go for transition one. Went for an eye test and then finally bought one at RM680 including frame (titanium type). Did not ask much because I dont know much of transition and this is also my first time buying glasses.
Then I found this topic. Hope it helps me when I am going to collect mine. Hopefully dont kena tipu..

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QUOTE(^^xiaowanzhi @ Sep 28 2012, 03:56 PM)
seem nobody answer the question...

the diff btw transition lens n photochromic lens is the material
transition is the multicoate changing colour
photochromic is the whole len changing colour.

transition is a product brand. hoya, essilor, AO these supplier take transition lens from transition.
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smile.gif halo, want to know is the photochromic lens same to colourmatic lens?

And,, functions of the transition and colourmaric are same, right? just the transition faster than colourmatic, right?

And~~~, I want to know What else different of transition and colourmatic.

Thanks for advise~~~~ notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(seven chong @ Dec 10 2012, 07:09 PM)
smile.gif  halo, want to know is the photochromic lens same to colourmatic lens?

And,, functions of the transition and colourmaric are same, right? just the transition faster than colourmatic, right?

And~~~, I want to know What else different of transition and colourmatic.

Thanks for advise~~~~  notworthy.gif
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the colour of photochromic is lasting than colourmatic lenses.
3 of them r automatic lenses, transition much more darker n lasting.
conclusion, colourmatic lenses r suit for styling than eye protection.

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hi. can you quote me Anti-fatigue Lense by Hoya? my power is
L -3.5, -2.25, 170
R -2.27, -2.25, 180
thanks.
please quote best price for diffferent thickness you have. thanks.
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hi. can you quote me Anti-fatigue Lense by Hoya? my power is
L -3.5, -2.25, 170
R -2.27, -2.25, 180
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please quote best price for diffferent thickness you have. thanks.
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I'm using hoya transition lenses. Got it from one of my friend who is also an optometrist. I paid rm250 for the hoya transition lenses (which he claims change colour faster compared to cap ayam brand) and rm200 for lee cooper plastic frame with wood texture. quite cheap if you ask me. no scratches at all. using it for 9 months already. dropped it here and there. it flew in the snow (i was wearing them all the time during winter in germany)
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Hi,

I went for window shopping the other day. Looking for transition lens, single vision. I told them my power is about 500 - 600. For plastic the price is Mid Valley Cheapest RM760 - RM850. Hoya Brand

At one shop inside Giant near Putra Permai it's RM680. Hoya brand
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last time i use hoya transition the coating also come out easily...not sure why.... can't tahan for 2 yrs also...now i m using essilor transition.... so far so good... no complain. more than 1 yr liao....
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Hoya transition 1.5 index 350 power both side rm300 for the pair of lens..ok?
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I rewards myself with Braun Buffel (titanium frame) using Hoya Summit True Form 1.6 multifocal lenses and burnt my wallet RM1500.00 at Focus World. Superb service and 100% original.
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sorry to interrupt. i went to focus point yesterday in the curve, i want to try transition lenses for a 1st time bcoz my work require me to drive and work outside most of the time. and i hate to bring extra sunglasses around. but to my despair, focus point quoted me RM1.2k/1.45k for it (depends on my lense thickness) excluded frame. is transition lenses is THAT expensive??
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QUOTE(miszsunshine89 @ Jan 28 2014, 10:31 AM)
sorry to interrupt. i went to focus point yesterday in the curve, i want to try transition lenses for a 1st time bcoz my work require me to drive and work outside most of the time. and i hate to bring extra sunglasses around. but to my despair, focus point quoted me RM1.2k/1.45k for it (depends on my lense thickness) excluded frame. is transition lenses is THAT expensive??
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Fyi, Transition doesn't work inside car since your car would probably tinted with UV protection. Even the Transaction XtraActive only darken a bit inside a car. You want another opinion for glasses can always try Hunakadoo, he owns a optical shop somewhere near Columbia Hospital Setapak. He can give discount to Lowyatnet Forumers.
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QUOTE(firefoxian @ Sep 16 2013, 06:09 AM)
I'm using hoya transition lenses. Got it from one of my friend who is also an optometrist. I paid rm250 for the hoya transition lenses (which he claims change colour faster compared to cap ayam brand) and rm200 for lee cooper plastic frame with wood texture. quite cheap if you ask me. no scratches at all. using it for 9 months already. dropped it here and there. it flew in the snow (i was wearing them all the time during winter in germany)
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So where`s ur fren store located?name?
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really ahh .. I tot transition is a lot more expensive
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QUOTE(jgu1644 @ Apr 7 2011, 11:44 PM)
just share some information here ,
how do prove that is a transition lens
1.certificate of authenticity card
2.lens packaging (verify ur power is the same on the packaging,this is very important) .

diff brand ,diff price
1.essilor ,hoya, carl zeiss (very good quality)
2.BBGR +SC coating(very small diff as above)
3.ILT + steel coating(a bit lower grade than 2 above)
4.others ( not worth to try)

hope u guys can enjoy UR transition lenses


Added on April 7, 2011, 11:52 pmthere r 2 type of changing color lenses on the market
1.Transition
2.Photochromic(sunactive,magic sun visor n...................so many brand)

Transition
1.more expensive
2.change color darker n faster
3.darkest abt 75 or 76 % at 35°C
4.quality assured , lifespan abt 3years

Photochromic
1.budget ,cheaper.
2.color not so dark n fast
3.easy become yellowish
4.change color slower after some time.

both of them wont change darker in the car.
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So where`s ur fren store located?name?
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How come yours so cheap? I got high-index Hoya Transition lens at RM1.5 (RP RM2160) with 2 yrs waranty. The salesman said the slightly cheaper than RM2k will have image distortion at the sides. Mine only works outdoor. Turns gray/fades very fast. The cheaper brands' coating will wear off very quickly.
Tho' not as good as a sunglass. Can still feel the heat and glare.
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QUOTE(Chrizhen @ May 13 2014, 12:51 PM)
How come yours so cheap? I got high-index Hoya Transition lens at RM1.5 (RP RM2160) with 2 yrs waranty. The salesman said the slightly cheaper than RM2k  will have image distortion at the sides.  Mine only works outdoor. Turns gray/fades very fast. The cheaper brands' coating will wear off very quickly.
Tho' not as good as a sunglass. Can still feel the heat and glare.
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hoya 1.67 transition cost Rm 1300 a pair only.
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QUOTE(miszsunshine89 @ Jan 28 2014, 11:31 AM)
sorry to interrupt. i went to focus point yesterday in the curve, i want to try transition lenses for a 1st time bcoz my work require me to drive and work outside most of the time. and i hate to bring extra sunglasses around. but to my despair, focus point quoted me RM1.2k/1.45k for it (depends on my lense thickness) excluded frame. is transition lenses is THAT expensive??
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Did you finally got your transition lense? How much it cost?
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QUOTE(David83 @ Apr 11 2011, 09:30 PM)
My brother's pair uses Hoya lenses. He said the transition effect comes faster than mine (Carl Zeiss). Is that true?
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Are you still using the same pair of transition spec now?

How is it after more than 3 years?
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Are you still using the same pair of transition spec now?

How is it after more than  3 years?
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We change lenses every year. So not sure about the old lenses? Sorry ...
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We change lenses every year. So not sure about the old lenses? Sorry ...
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just notice i'm using Crizal Essilor lens
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just notice i'm using Crizal Essilor lens
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Essilor crizal transition 7 can get for less than rm 400 a pair. Can see the crizal printing on the multicoat layer to check authenticity. Very good lens and multicoat, damn worth the value.
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QUOTE(jialat @ Jun 17 2014, 02:26 PM)
Essilor crizal transition 7 can get for less than rm 400 a pair. Can see the crizal printing on the multicoat layer to check authenticity. Very good lens and multicoat, damn worth the value.
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just notice when I open microfiber cloth given when I purchase this glasses doh.gif worth it i guess since i having serious glare problem laugh.gif

anyone know any eye clinic around wangsa maju area? i should check my eyes sweat.gif
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Just went to survey about the transition lens, RM430 for index 1.5 Essilor brand, while Hoya Brand goes up to RM500++
Anyone got better shop to recommend in klang valley?
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Just went to survey about the transition lens, RM430 for index 1.5 Essilor brand, while Hoya Brand goes up to RM500++
Anyone got better shop to recommend in klang valley?
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We can do special promo for lowyat members, 1.5 transition 7, crizal forte coating, brand essilor Rm 330 a pair. warranty 1 year.

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Can I know what is the best index and how much for myopia -8.25 and -9.50, astigmatism C+1.25, C-1.25.

I using Hoya Nulux 1.67 now. Cost me RM 570 with frame. Is it expensive?

I'm not satisfiy, because it's still very thick (approximately 5mm) which make the glasses look very ugly, with all the circular refraction. Can I get my lenses to 1mm? How much?

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update after get mine one

550 for 1.5
1000 for 1.6
1900 for 1.67

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QUOTE(Nemozai @ Mar 9 2017, 12:14 AM)
Can I know what is the best index and how much for myopia -8.25 and -9.50, astigmatism C+1.25, C-1.25.

I using Hoya Nulux 1.67 now. Cost me RM 570 with frame. Is it expensive?

I'm not satisfiy, because it's still very thick (approximately 5mm) which make the glasses look very ugly, with all the circular refraction. Can I get my lenses to 1mm? How much?
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Hey Nemozai,
I just stumbled across your question in this thread, and I felt like clearing up whatever doubts you might have in regard to the indices of different prescription lenses.

For your information, it is impossible for the lenses to be made as thin as 1mm regardless of how low your prescription is. This is because of something called 'minimum substance' in optics which is basically the minimum thickness of the base material that MUST be added to a lens for the overall structural integrity of the lens. The minimum substance is typically thicker in plastic lenses than glass lenses but you are better off opting for plastic lenses as opposed to the glass material, since glass lenses are more prone to shattering upon impact and thus they are really dangerous as far as your eyes are concerned. Glass lenses have gone obsolete nowadays so it's virtually impossible for you to get glass lenses.

Having that said, the only way to get thinner lenses is getting high-index lenses. As a general rule of thumb, the higher the index, the thinner the lenses as well as the minimum substance. The minimum substance for the most common low-index plastic lens (index = 1.498) CR-39 is 2 to 2.2mm, meaning that the minimum thickness of CR-39 lenses must be 2 to 2.2mm plus the thickness according to your prescription.

A higher index lens needs thinner minimum substance (1-1.5mm).

Based on your statement, it seems like you are very concerned about the thickness of your lenses. Hence, I'd advice you to go for the highest index plastic lens (index = 1.74) if you want the thinnest possible lenses. BESIDES, do bear in mind that there are a few factors that contribute to the thickness of the edge of your lenses. ONE of the most prominent factors being the SIZE and shape of your frame. Because minus lenses are thinnest in the middle (technically the 'optical centre' which is the POINT of a lens that needs to sitting RIGHT in front of your eye, and a dispensing optician is responsible for measuring that up for you) and thickest around the edges.

In brief, the smaller the size of a frame, the thinner the edges of your lenses would be. On the other hand, if you want the lenses to have a better finish (eg. evenly thick around the edges as opposed to the lens being thinner at the top and bottom but thinner at the sides), go for a frame shape that is slightly round-ish / sperical-ish. Avoid frames that are very ANGULAR and RECTANGUAR.

Last but not least, go for PLASTIC frame as opposed to metal frame because plastic frames usually have thicker fronts which can CONCEAL the thickness of the lenses.

To finish, I can briefly work out the possible thickness of your lenses if you were to use the highest-index plastic lens (index=1.74) for the SAME frame that you are having just now:

Let's suppose the minimum thickness for a very high-index lens is 1.5mm and the thickest part of your CURRENT lens is 5mm (old index = 1.67) as what you said above, and you decided to get 1.74 plastic lenses:

3.5mm x (1.67 - 1)/(1.74 - 1) = 3.169 mm

Then the thickest part of your new lens (1.74) = 3.169 . 1.5 = 4.67 mm

5mm to 4.67mm which is a reduction of 0.33mm, not too much of a difference. Hence, I'd really suggest that you get a smaller frame, and you can weigh up whether it's worth the price for 1.74 lenses. Let me know if you have any other question.

*I am an optometry student and I blog about optometry-related stuff. www.thefabvision.com

This post has been edited by thefabvision: Jan 17 2018, 11:07 PM
Nemozai
post Jan 20 2018, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(thefabvision @ Jan 17 2018, 09:58 PM)
Hey Nemozai,
I just stumbled across your question in this thread, and I felt like clearing up whatever doubts you might have in regard to the indices of different prescription lenses.

For your information, it is impossible for the lenses to be made as thin as 1mm regardless of how low your prescription is. This is because of something called 'minimum substance' in optics which is basically the minimum thickness of the base material that MUST be added to a lens for the overall structural integrity of the lens. The minimum substance is typically thicker in plastic lenses than glass lenses but you are better off opting for plastic lenses as opposed to the glass material, since glass lenses are more prone to shattering upon impact and thus they are really dangerous as far as your eyes are concerned. Glass lenses have gone obsolete nowadays so it's virtually impossible for you to get glass lenses.

Having that said, the only way to get thinner lenses is getting high-index lenses. As a general rule of thumb, the higher the index, the thinner the lenses as well as the minimum substance. The minimum substance for the most common low-index plastic lens (index = 1.498) CR-39 is 2 to 2.2mm, meaning that the minimum thickness of CR-39 lenses must be 2 to 2.2mm plus the thickness according to your prescription.

A higher index lens needs thinner minimum substance (1-1.5mm).

Based on your statement, it seems like you are very concerned about the thickness of your lenses. Hence, I'd advice you to go for the highest index plastic lens (index = 1.74) if you want the thinnest possible lenses. BESIDES, do bear in mind that there are a few factors that contribute to the thickness of the edge of your lenses. ONE of the most prominent factors being the SIZE and shape of your frame. Because minus lenses are thinnest in the middle (technically the 'optical centre' which is the POINT of a lens that needs to sitting RIGHT in front of your eye, and a dispensing optician is responsible for measuring that up for you) and thickest around the edges.

In brief, the smaller the size of a frame, the thinner the edges of your lenses would be. On the other hand, if you want the lenses to have a better finish (eg. evenly thick around the edges as opposed to the lens being thinner at the top and bottom but thinner at the sides), go for a frame shape that is slightly round-ish / sperical-ish. Avoid frames that are very ANGULAR and RECTANGUAR.

Last but not least, go for PLASTIC frame as opposed to metal frame because plastic frames usually have thicker fronts which can CONCEAL the thickness of the lenses.

To finish, I can briefly work out the possible thickness of your lenses if you were to use the highest-index plastic lens (index=1.74) for the SAME frame that you are having just now:

Let's suppose the minimum thickness for a very high-index lens is 1.5mm and the thickest part of your CURRENT lens is 5mm (old index = 1.67) as what you said above, and you decided to get 1.74 plastic lenses:

3.5mm x (1.67 - 1)/(1.74 - 1) = 3.169 mm

Then the thickest part of your new lens (1.74) = 3.169 . 1.5 = 4.67 mm

5mm to 4.67mm which is a reduction of 0.33mm, not too much of a difference. Hence, I'd really suggest that you get a smaller frame, and you can weigh up whether it's worth the price for 1.74 lenses. Let me know if you have any other question.

*I am an optometry student and I blog about optometry-related stuff. www.thefabvision.com
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Thank you for the information! I have been waiting for this thumbup.gif notworthy.gif Guess 1.67 refractive index is the ways to go.

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post May 26 2020, 08:14 AM

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QUOTE(urakei @ Apr 23 2010, 12:11 PM)
certificate?? i bought hoya transition lense and they giv me a card. izzit a same thing??

i damn scare if my lense is a fake ...  sad.gif
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post May 26 2020, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(Nemozai @ Mar 9 2017, 12:14 AM)
Can I know what is the best index and how much for myopia -8.25 and -9.50, astigmatism C+1.25, C-1.25.

I using Hoya Nulux 1.67 now. Cost me RM 570 with frame. Is it expensive?

I'm not satisfiy, because it's still very thick (approximately 5mm) which make the glasses look very ugly, with all the circular refraction. Can I get my lenses to 1mm? How much?
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This post has been edited by seekjob97: May 27 2020, 08:55 AM
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post May 26 2020, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(lazo @ Dec 25 2009, 01:58 PM)
hello ,

i searched the forum but couldnt find any relevant topics/posts/information

i am getting a specs with transition lens.

went to 5 shops in penang and found out different prices:

in shopping mall: 500, 480, 350 (promotion)
neighbourhood shops: 420, 400

the 350 seems to be promising but i wonder how can they go so cheap compared to other shops.

i am worried that they use some other cheaper photochromic lens and tell me its transition 1, as there are so many lower range lens that can change color now.

so, anyone know how do we identify the lens? will we be given any certs or similar?

please advise, thanks!
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Which made? Hoya/Carl Zeiss? Dont go for cheap.


 

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