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post Jan 14 2010, 12:09 AM

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high end apsc to be precise.. =D
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post Jan 14 2010, 12:14 AM

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so far all sony DSLRs have no vid recording function...albnok already listed out the advantages of 550 over 3xx..

big/better grip(not sure its advantage for u)
very solid ISO performance *main advantage
7fps - main advantage
auto HDR



its been awhile since i last do any toy shots... =)

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*disclaimer - No danboard was harmed during the making of this shot. >.<

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post Jan 14 2010, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(lencent @ Jan 14 2010, 12:17 AM)
u dismembered the amazon box? tongue.gif
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no?? whistling.gif
i would never do such cruel thing to my toys... brows.gif


Added on January 14, 2010, 12:22 am
QUOTE(ReasonsofThanatos @ Jan 14 2010, 12:20 AM)
wow sifu...interesting shot from u again  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif very hillarious!
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actually i was quite tired from work..lol..so just agak agak setup the stuff n shoot..last time i used to spend like 2-4hrs to setup 1 shot..but today i only use 15min from the making of the blackboard until finish editing..lol..getting lazier.. =.=

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post Jan 14 2010, 12:32 AM

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QUOTE(ReasonsofThanatos @ Jan 14 2010, 12:27 AM)
shocking.gif 2-4 hours just to setup!?!?wow i'd never have the patience like this for preparations..im more to shooting things "as it is"...but really considering spending more times and shooting some figurines now..*hand itchy*  tongue.gif
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yea..2-4hrs only for setup..excluding brain storming and post editing..lol..

reason because i have had to present my idea in limited space(room very small) and limited equipment(sometimes 1 flash is not enough..sometimes lens too short or too long)...and also the item i could use to setup of the scene is very limited coz im not staying at home where i can find lots of junks to use..

but usually for me.. i found that those i spent lots of time to setup..it'd normally gives me more satisfaction in the end..lol

actually for this shot...i intended to use it to replace my current wallpaper which i already used for 1.5months(i normally start to shoot toy stuff when i feel like changing wallpaper..lol)...
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but it looked like this stupid shot is nowhere near my old wallpaper..lol..guess i'd continue to use for a lil longer.. doh.gif

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post Jan 14 2010, 10:56 AM

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use something to distract her..so that she would stay here for a lil while longer...or u can *poisoning* get a flash =D
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post Jan 14 2010, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(ReasonsofThanatos @ Jan 14 2010, 11:44 AM)
haha...but really couldn't agree more that every shot of urs is impressive..really worth the setup time and brain storming n all d effort  rclxms.gif

thumbup.gif haha this new pic is even more cheeky!if u don't mind i'd like to have the full size image as my wallpaper  tongue.gif it look nice enough for me!
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my pleasure ^^
the shot is uploaded in my flickr..click "fullsize" its available in 1024 or 1920


QUOTE(kmarc @ Jan 14 2010, 11:44 AM)
Yeah, thinking of getting one. However, flash looks so unnatural but I think there are techniques to get around this right? Bounce flash or something. Have to read up more on this.....
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yea..sometimes direct flash might make ur shots unnatural..but u can always bounce it..or use gel to blend into ur ambient lighting..
i shoot my cousins' children pretty often but night time isnt my fav time..lol..i usually shoot them in the mornin/afternoon..
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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Jan 14 2010, 12:18 PM)
lol .. poison never stops you ..
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is it still seems harsh (the light)?


Added on January 14, 2010, 12:19 pm
lor .. I bought it at Nike Store at The Curve..
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lesser than the first one...good job~
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QUOTE(albnok @ Jan 14 2010, 03:27 PM)
cplow1: Exactly! Though you know lah for the people here who think they need to have every focal length covered...
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i agree that we dont need to cover all the range to shoot wedding..infact..just a 50mm alone or kitlens + flash would survive too....but we cant deny the fact that different type of lens would achieve diff type of effect..and some moment is easier to capture with long tele rather than wide angle...

i came across people who uses old 300D to shoot wedding and he is charging 4k sgd per day....if we treat all photographer base on this standard..then makes those who using fullframe but charge ONLY 5k sgd per day stupid isnt it?

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QUOTE(Uzumaki NaruTo @ Jan 14 2010, 04:23 PM)
I don't mind what gear did he bring along but as long as the output is beautiful its all ok to me. Its true that with more lens around you'll be able cover more and be creative (read: ier's fisheye shoot.)
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yes...good gears or bad gears..at the end the shots would speak for themselves..what im trying to as is that we shdnt use gears as a form of measurement...
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QUOTE(freddy manson @ Jan 14 2010, 05:39 PM)
yah u're rite. must make the payments that they (customers) paid is worthed..
the printed materials have to have quality that they expected from you..

anyway heppi befday dude...
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haha..u sounds like if they pay u peanut..and u gonna give them craps(to match the value of what they r paying) tongue.gif

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u can always start from ur own friends??maybe just tag alone the official photographer..and observe how they do their stuff(they probably wont teach u much since they don know u at the first place).....maybe my age group is in the period where everyone starts to get married..i started from twice offering myself as a 2nd or 3rd photographer during my friends wedding..and then friends started to ask for my help to shoot for them(free again)..and people started to give u "angpao"..to people engage u officially as their main photographer...

as a starting point,each time u helping ur frens..be it free or paid..u not only get to learn from the main photographer(if there is any)..and also u get to know alot of those "sisters/brothers" who might be getting married soon either..so chances for u to learn/practice would just keep flowing in(provided u never screw up anything)..


p/s: oh ya..suddenly remind me of something ...for those who frequently shoot wedding here...did u sign any form of "contract" with ur customers?stating whats included in ur package..and the rights of the photo belongs to which party...i dunno how it works in msia but in singapore..the moment u accept payment from the couples..be it 1dollar or 10grand..the rights automatically belong to the couples..and u shdnt publish their stuff unless there was an agreement made....i know not much people care about the rights thingy..but just wanted to know how things supposed to go..
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QUOTE(freddy manson @ Jan 14 2010, 06:10 PM)
havent encounter this so far..
but maybe we can start making this a usual thing..
this will make sure that they pay for the pics.. and have 'some sort' of belonging to the pics taken..
unless the photogs want to use it then should have agreement..
this is sumthing good for the customer, but maybe bad for the photogs.. eh..
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i dont usually do it "yet"..just verbal agreement only..anyway i dont have alot assignments to start with..LOL..maybe average once in a month only =.=
but from those i encounter b4..they usually would have somthing...be it receipt or u wanna call it contract..it'd state clearly that how much he is charging...how many pic he going to edit..how many pics he would print out..how long it takes..and lastly..the rights of the photo...

i asked them y bother about the rights(it seems like most couples dont care either)..they told me in singapore..the moment u get ur payment..u've "sold" the rights to the couples already..so if u use it on ur portfolio or website..by right ur customer could give u troubles if they want to...and there r cases where the poor photographers met lousy customers..so they just want to stay away from that..


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post Jan 14 2010, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(ieR @ Jan 14 2010, 06:39 PM)
if u study law.

they pay, they ownership.
you make, u author-ship, u can even claim loyalty claims when they use the photo
copyright, still urs, unless sign a release form to release to them.
other way around.
model, u pay them, they, authorship, they claim loyalty
you, shoot, u pay them, u ownership of the photos
copyright, again, need a release form from them.

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model, get paid, authorship, can make loyalty claims.
u, photographer, get paid too, to shoot/make, just a tool.
COMPANY, pays everyone, ownership, goyang kaki.
copyright, still need release form from model, - photographer no need.
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somehow the copy right law in singapore isnt following msia..
this is what i read from http://www.ipos.gov.sg/leftNav/cop/Ownership+and+Rights.htm

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Ownership

Generally, the person who created the work (i.e. the author) owns the copyright in the work. However, there are exceptions to this general rule. Some exceptions are:

Employment: If the work is created by an employee pursuant to the terms of his employment, the employer owns the copyright in the work.

Special situation for newspaper/magazine/periodical employees: Where an employee of a newspaper, magazine or periodical creates a literary, dramatic or artistic work pursuant to the terms of his employment and for the purpose of publication in a newspaper, magazine or periodical, the proprietor of the newspaper, magazine or periodical owns the copyright in respect of publication in or reproduction for the purpose of publication in any newspaper, magazine or periodical. The employee owns the remaining rights that make up the copyright bundle of exclusive rights. Commissioning: If a portrait/photograph/engraving is commissioned by another party, the commissioner owns the copyright in the work. If the portrait/photograph/engraving is required for a particular purpose, this purpose must be communicated to the commissioned party. While the commissioner is the copyright owner, the commissioned party has the right to stop others from doing any act comprised in the copyright, unless such act is done for the particular purpose for which the portrait/photograph/engraving is created.

For other types of commissioned works, ownership belongs to the commissioned party, unless the commissioner and commissioned party otherwise agree.

As mentioned in the introduction, the copyright owner may transfer his rights to another party or entity either partially or wholly



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1. Copyright Copyright at Work
I provide photography services. Do I own the copyright to the photos that I take for my clients? If I don't, is there any way that I can own the copyright? I want to showcase the best photos in my website and brochures.

In general, clients who pay for your services own the copyright to the photos taken. However, you have limited rights in that if the photos are required for any particular purpose (e.g. a corporate client wants glamour shots of the senior management, to use in its annual report), your clients should tell you and you are entitled to prevent the photos from being used for other purposes.

In practice, however, many photographers have their own terms of engagement with clients. The parties are free to have their own agreement, which automatically overrides the above default position. Thus, for example, you and your clients can mutually agree that you will own the copyright in the photos but that your clients can use the photos for certain purposes; or that your clients own the copyright but you have the license to reproduce the photos in your website and brochures.

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QUOTE(marauderz @ Jan 14 2010, 11:19 PM)
Personally I feel that a person shouldn't only have a fixed length lens if they're just learning photography, but that's just me. tongue.gif

Also.. I'm telling you to get the KIT lens 1855. No poison there, it's just that the A550 doesn't have a lens with it, so I was thinking that should be best for you to learn with.

18250.. ok.. that's abit special lar.
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haha..i also started with prime first...i bought my a300 with 1870kit..but less than 1 week..i feel that its not something i want..so i got myself a 50 1.4..n happily go on to explore all the stuff..

i think to start with a prime or tele..both shd be fine..as long as u really understand what u r doing...and review the shots from time to time..
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QUOTE(marauderz @ Jan 14 2010, 11:31 PM)
Starter should always use a variable over a fixed lens, but a lot of people think that 50MM is like an essential lens after seeing all the bokeh shots. wink.gif

My 50 is actually the LEAST used lens.. haven't even used it with my A550 yet.

Yes, it depends on what kind of shots you take, but... for someone learning to use a camera, better to go for variable first lar.
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im sort of like the oposite..lol...even until now..other than event shooting..i rarely use my zoom(1680 on apsc or 2470 on ff)..most of the time..im on my 50mm/90mm/135mm
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QUOTE(marauderz @ Jan 14 2010, 11:46 PM)
Because you found out what you need to use it for. And you're carrying 3 lenses?!?!
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normally i only allow myself to bring any 2 from my 4 lenses...b4 i go shoot..i shd know what im going to shoot..and roughly how the thing goes..if i went there with 90 + 135(but normally i wont bring something similar) and realized that i need something very wide..well..i can only blame myself for the bad planning..n hopefully not to repeat again..at the same time..try to overcome the problem with what i have..
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QUOTE(ianho @ Jan 14 2010, 11:56 PM)
U shud start off with the kitlens lar. It's crazy to start with a 50mm. It's so limiting especially on a crop body.
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well..kitlens is a good start but i feel that prime is ok too smile.gif

again i think its based on the photographer very own habit/style....since its a prime..of coz its not as flexible as zoom lenses....some see the limit and stop there...but some see the limit and try to overcome it in their own way..they might fail..but i guess they learn something in the process too.....otherwise how the old day film users do their job?
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jan 15 2010, 12:01 AM)
Uncle! Long time no see!  nod.gif

So just drop the 50mm even though it is RM300?  hmm.gif
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haha..u don buy it bcoz its cheap..u buy coz u need it..
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jan 15 2010, 12:13 AM)
Hehe... cheap ma.... I thought I start off with that but after chatting with you guys, I'm beginning to see the flash light (i.e. limitation of the 50mm).....
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u already have a kitlens right??u shd try to play around with it..after awhile..u'll know what u really need...

on another hand..if u dont have any lens now..then maybe u can consider to get a zoom as what others suggested..or get a prime(if u know what u r doing)
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in singapore..even u wanna use a song inside ur montage..u hv to buy the license to use that song..which is 50-100buck per song..sigh..but im nt sure how many of them really follow this rule
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hoya HD is scratch proof??i didnt know..lol


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QUOTE(hazril @ Jan 15 2010, 02:22 AM)
how cool is this...??no need SSS,IS and VR anymore....
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i saw this thing with my own eyes b4...my brother's friend use it on him..and i must say..it really works as what they show inside...lol

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