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ulwan25
post Dec 3 2010, 05:40 AM

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but the scratch didn't effect on the pic, or is it not??
huh, external lens cover make your fon look fatter..

did i mention that i put x6 with iDEFENSE?? very2 good. no need bulkier case.. maybe im gonna put my n86's the same...
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post Dec 3 2010, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Dec 3 2010, 04:04 PM)
I thought N87 is a canceled project?  blink.gif
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definitely.. perhaps no more keypad phone?? hehe just kidding brows.gif
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post Dec 3 2010, 04:43 PM

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got myself an N86. bought from lyn members. black color..
all works like a charm.. but the camera, why izzit so hard to focus?? does anyone had this kind of problem??
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post Dec 3 2010, 05:24 PM

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wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
i tot n82 was worst, n86 was worst on AF..
but i'll learn it someday.. anything else works fine, and never owned any slide fons until now! hehe
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post Dec 3 2010, 07:08 PM

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no. let say like distant object (hills, etc), then cannot focus. always red.. i don't think this is normal..
i know this fon got 9 spot focus.. a pot pot don't needed ngeh3..
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post Dec 3 2010, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(ne0cz @ Dec 3 2010, 08:45 PM)
wow 9 spot focus? X6 only have one in the middle  doh.gif
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to be honest with you, one spot is the best.. 9 spot focus usually for touchscreen fon so can focus wherever you want by a touch.. so, without a touch, how could we know where do we want to focus?? rclxub.gif
need a suggestion here.. the major problem is the camera.. take pic at 1m ok but when entering at 3m only got red. cannot autofocus!! vmad.gif vmad.gif
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post Dec 3 2010, 09:04 PM

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so the red indication is normal?? never seen a phone like dat..
if i put landscape mode, it will not focus on infinity.. but focus at only 1.3m from me.. is this normal??
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post Dec 4 2010, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Dec 4 2010, 01:42 AM)
Red means stop, green means GO.
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95% i got RED, which is not focus vmad.gif
even now at 1m cannot sudah.. mmg ada problem.. but picture quality very damn good blink.gif
this fon always reverse focusing. from infinity to macro.. both auto and macro mode like this la..

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post Dec 4 2010, 12:04 PM

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very unnormal i tell u..
unlucky seller habis warranty
but lucky seller wanna help.. he didn't noticed this. he often used macro because macro ok..
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post Dec 4 2010, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Dec 4 2010, 02:31 PM)
What the heck la. doh.gif  doh.gif Anyway, nice joke.

N86 users just have to familiarize with the camera first. Who know maybe later things may work out?
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but this was confirmed by me, got problem. at landscape mode, it only captures at 2m. but strangely, when i ketuk2 the phone (ketuk at the screen, causing it to push the lens forward) it can focus at infinity.. Macro is ok

after i ketuk2 the phone, before 'i ketuk2 the phone' picture deleted la sorry cry.gif
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if don ketuk2, became like this
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but this phone got nice color, nice picture quality. a lot of things for me to fix this problem manually, tried many stuff, and worked, finally can get at GREEN by using an extra effort. (but distant object at infinity very hard, must use landscape mode)
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can you imagine when you wana capture something, you always get RED indication and never get the GREEN indication? i know people think i didn't understand on n86's camera mechanism but im telling you, this phone got problem on the 'eye', i don't care rosak anywhere else, but the main reason i buy for this phone is the 'eye'.
at monday/tuesday seller gonna send it to NCC, hopefully this problem will solve at glance, and fast nod.gif
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post Dec 4 2010, 09:51 PM

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warranty just over. he didn't notice the problem, didn't use the camera a lot.
if not NCC, then where to send?? hardware problem cannot DIY right? or DIBMS of whatever..
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post Dec 4 2010, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(ne0cz @ Dec 4 2010, 10:27 PM)
too much macro setting?  sweat.gif
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im afraid it did. even in video mode it focus on like 1.3m only mad.gif

QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Dec 4 2010, 11:53 PM)
It is better not to simply tear out the phone. Easy to tear, difficult in putting it back. doh.gif  doh.gif  That is what happened when my Russian friend tear his SE phone apart.

What is DIBMS??
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Do It By My Self whistling.gif

that's why wana send it to NCC. sakit la ketuk2 nset shakehead.gif
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post Dec 4 2010, 11:56 PM

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lol it means that i don wan 2 ketuk2 anymore. wan 2 be normal like the normal healthy phone.
thx 4 the recommendation, are the lens the same like the one in DSLR??
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post Dec 5 2010, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Dec 5 2010, 01:00 AM)
Just browse through the photo shots man.

Also, please do not have high expectation as it is only RM 50. blush.gif
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haha, just kidding sweat.gif

QUOTE(Jason3399 @ Dec 5 2010, 02:09 AM)
Too bad for u ulwan25... Guess u cant run away from forking out some money to service yr phone though...
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QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Dec 5 2010, 01:44 PM)
I do not think his phone have problem. Just some time to familiarize first, ulwan25. tongue.gif
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i know what im talking ok? familiarize? i don't think so. at least not like this.
if i shake the phone, at the same time by half pressing the shutter button, it works. GREEN appears, but not that accurate. had to ketuk the phone.
but if steady, 100% RED indication. even at face detection it will indicate RED (never work unless i shake the phone)
how would you explain this to me?

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post Dec 6 2010, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Dec 5 2010, 11:10 PM)
In your situation, i am not sure what to say to you out already. sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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just please tell me this, when shooting using face detection at a static face, why is it always RED? normal or not? unsure.gif

and check out this video that i made, at video mode.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDvUStEv9vc

and how to put embed youtube in this forum?? dunno la shocking.gif

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post Dec 6 2010, 03:34 PM

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finally! thank you, neOcz!
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post Dec 6 2010, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(ne0cz @ Dec 6 2010, 04:40 PM)
I watched the video, and actually I am rather jealous. All my phone cameras and even my P&S BenQ cam can't get clear text at such distance. Beautiful! But the range issue is a problem  sweat.gif
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haha. it's just like an auto focus video. wonder why Nokia didn't put this in their devices.. (but n900 got auto focus video rite??)
beautiful, but it wasn't my intention to do it though icon_rolleyes.gif

but wana share something. if u wan 2 do that, better try the ketuk method.. my previous fon n82 can do this also but lagi2 sensitive, ketuk sikit je sudah boleh buat macro whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif
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post Dec 7 2010, 01:09 PM

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just 2 share with you guys..



i think i tried on X6 oso the ketuk2, didn't work, same goes to 5800, can't.
but n82 and n86 can. it's easier if nokia put the function. easy rite? shocking.gif
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post Dec 7 2010, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(Jason3399 @ Dec 7 2010, 04:27 PM)
Ketuk2 function? sweat.gif  Its just the focusing stuff got problem gua...
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yaa codenamed 'ketuk ketuk' icon_rolleyes.gif

got advantage waat thumbup.gif

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post Dec 7 2010, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(KnY @ Dec 7 2010, 10:12 PM)
IMHO, I don't think u ketuk the thing then it will focus.  smile.gif It's actually change of distance, focus.  Normally wat I will do when out of focus is, you focus other place/angle, like if you taking a very near pic, focus far away then only move in back. Means you hold the focus when you got green, then you move your angle to ur near subject. Normally it works.

I think before U upgraded to this v30, I don't have much problem with the focus.

For the square lens, if not mistaken I read it in GSM Arena or Allaboutsymbian, it is for anti glare, like those DSLR.
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this is the problem.. cannot focus even 2m is impossible blink.gif . nice method as i always shoot like that thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
i know much method on how to subdue the problem, if only i am the one who knows how to do so, then anybody else dunno.
right now, usability not satisfied. i don wan someone take my picture with dem RED all the time and unfocused doh.gif . that's why it is on NCC now, rumah saket

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