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AshJ
post Feb 15 2010, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(tunemystylez @ Feb 15 2010, 01:27 PM)
sorry to ask,
can they(nymphs - adults) cohabitat in a tank?(example exo terra glass terrarium PT2600)
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Bro actual fact they can.... but not all can do that (co-existence) with others either same species or not. for example P Paradoxa (ghost mantis) can live together as long as there are enough feeders flex.gif .

But most will eat each other especially the female...they are brutal ya know wub.gif .

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tunemystylez
post Feb 15 2010, 02:58 PM

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what about the dead leaf mantis and orchid mantis?
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post Feb 15 2010, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(mantismania @ Jan 18 2010, 03:47 PM)
Insects can never go extinct due to them being collected from the wild because there's just too many of them. What makes them go extinct is clearly deforestation. This is a sad thing. Malaysia is home to many exotic insects. It's devastating to know that sooner or later they'll all go extinct.
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So before they(insects), or particularly mantis go extinct it is our responsibility to educate the general public, about preserving them for future generations. Mantis breeders and keepers alike have played important role in making them able co-exist in homes of humans, in the form of terrariums.
AshJ
post Feb 16 2010, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(tunemystylez @ Feb 15 2010, 02:58 PM)
what about the dead leaf mantis and orchid mantis?
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Some says..It is ok with Dead Leaf Mantis a.k.a D Lobata, truncata, desicata to be together in one enclosure as long as space and feeders are available thumbup.gif but not for flower mantis (Hymenopus Coronatus) as they will start eating each other usually after it's L3 (3rd instar).

But both species should be individually kept for viewing pleasure unless introduce them for breeding purposes and it should be monitored if not u can find the male head cry.gif next morning .LOL.

Surf the net...there's a lot caresheet for each individual mantis.. tongue.gif .prefer more towards insectore.com icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Feb 16 2010, 01:39 PM

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Because if it's aggressive hunting and killing ability, even can kill a prey larger than its own size.
I wonder can a mantis be handled like the way we normally do in handling a leopard gecko?

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post Feb 16 2010, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(blitzboy @ Feb 16 2010, 01:39 PM)
Because if it's aggressive hunting and killing ability, even can kill a prey larger than its own size.
I wonder can a mantis be handled like the way we normally do in handling a leopard gecko?
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But how big they go or aggressive they can be it just for food...lol

almost the same, my leo wont mind me holding them until they become boring and so as this guys. The behaviour is they like to dance on ur hand swaying..actual facts it is their natural instinct judging its defensive posture but afetr awhile they relax and just hanging on. thumbup.gif ...

It is the looks most of mantis keeper admired at & same goes to leos



RyoKenzaki
post Feb 17 2010, 01:26 AM

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My friend going to get me some gray and green color mantis next week
Looking forward to get them ID by then
ASHJ, would u mind to share a pic of ur mantis setup?
AshJ
post Feb 17 2010, 12:48 PM

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Ryo,

Will try to upload tonite lor...but for info the basic rule of enclosure for mantis is width 2 times its body lenght and height 3 times. and of course a lot of twigs la

I think ur friend gonna get u this Mantisphoto-giant asian mantis
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The enclosures of D Lobata (Dead Leaf Mantis)
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The P Paradoxa set up
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Candy Plastic Jar Enclosure
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What u need: plastic container, Hot Glue Gun and netting (purchase at flower shop). Let ur creativity do the rest. whistling.gif

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Nymph Female Ghost (P Paradoxa) aiming for roach
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Male Ghost

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post Feb 19 2010, 03:01 PM

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oh.. god.. I really want to go back into mantis.. =(...

I miss my Lobatas~ and greenies
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post Feb 19 2010, 03:53 PM

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O_O They dun need substrate to hold humidity?
AshJ
post Feb 19 2010, 04:34 PM

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Substrate m using paper towel as easy for cleaning purposes. They need mist sprayed alternate days or daily for those L1-L2 nymph.

I think our weather has got enough humidity but they in o/seas r using substrate like peatmoss etc

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post Feb 19 2010, 10:02 PM

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Ic, i ll stick to coco fiber then, as i think tissue will get mold easily and im used to coco fiber...
I juz caught myself a very small nymph at my friend house juz now
White color, semi transparent, small like 2mm only, setting up it's enclosure now
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post Feb 19 2010, 10:08 PM

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Thanks Ash for keeping this thread going. Anything can ask Ash, he expert already.
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notworthy.gif ASH taikor
Here's some pic as promise...

This is the best shot i can get... It's really small, dun think can possibly ID it now laugh.gif
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Look how small it is....
Standing on the right side of the container, eating a ant
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It's on top of the enclosure, if u can see it...
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It's enclosure
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post Feb 19 2010, 11:42 PM

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Looks like a Leptomantella sp. A very small species.
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Nice, now i have some hints on the sp...
Wonder how big it get, it run very fast thou....
Hopefully it will grow bigger soon
Im still expecting a asian giant mantis from a friend soon this week biggrin.gif
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post Feb 20 2010, 12:08 AM

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Yeah they're fast. Adults could reach approx. 3-4 cm. Actually, there's no need to use any substrate bro. Just good ventilation is needed if misting frequently. Leptomantella are easy to care for. I've kept some when I was a small boy.
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post Feb 20 2010, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(mantismania @ Feb 19 2010, 10:08 PM)
Thanks Ash for keeping this thread going. Anything can ask Ash, he expert already.
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Dun say that man still absorbing knowledge from sifus at asian mantis


QUOTE(RyoKenzaki @ Feb 19 2010, 11:53 PM)
Nice, now i have some hints on the sp...
Wonder how big it get, it run very fast thou....
Hopefully it will grow bigger soon
Im still expecting a asian giant mantis from a friend soon this week biggrin.gif
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Were got taikor, u make my leg swaying like mantids already....lol..we will both learn together and u got more experience d with the scorpies and Ts..... rclxms.gif

Just wonder what u going to feed it with...m struggling with my nymp....it is luck i got it at L3 so wild flies is ok with it. BTW where is u friend area u got the nymph?

And just lucky that mantis sifu is here, can do the IDs.... rclxm9.gif
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post Feb 20 2010, 12:21 AM

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Reason for me to use substrate is because i don't want to open the container and mist it frequently cause it run really fast, scare it run out
Coco fiber hold moisture as good as tissue but using tissue will have mold easily so in the end i choose coco fiber laugh.gif
3-4cm is consider as big for me if compare to my small scorrp tongue.gif


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QUOTE(AshJ @ Feb 20 2010, 12:20 AM)
Dun say that man still absorbing knowledge from sifus at asian mantis
Were got taikor, u make my leg swaying like mantids already....lol..we will both learn together and u got more experience d with the scorpies and Ts..... rclxms.gif

Just wonder what u going to feed it with...m struggling with my nymp....it is luck i got it at L3 so wild flies is ok with it. BTW where is u friend area u got the nymph?

And just lucky that mantis sifu is here, can do the IDs.... rclxm9.gif
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Im going to feed it fruit fly or ants, i read a technique on a article juz now that teach how to catch fruit fly, i think i ll try it tomorrow
Anw, its in Wangsa Maju, i even found ant mantids last time, on her basil tree but too bad they are all gone now sad.gif

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post Feb 20 2010, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(RyoKenzaki @ Feb 20 2010, 12:21 AM)
Reason for me to use substrate is because i don't want to open the container and mist it frequently cause it run really fast, scare it run out
Coco fiber hold moisture as good as tissue but using tissue will have mold easily so in the end i choose coco fiber laugh.gif
3-4cm is consider as big for me if compare to my small scorrp tongue.gif
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Actually in S.E. Asia, we only mist their enclosure so that they'll drink from the water droplets. We don't need to mist for humidity as we're already living in a humid region luckily. The reason why I use kitchen towels is not really for holding moisture but to make it easier to clean their droppings and food remains (throw and replace with a new one when it gets too dirty). All that's necessary really is proper ventilation. Too much moisture can result in a sick mantis due to bacteria buildup from droppings and food remains mixed with collected moisture.

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