Forumer you are complaining against:
ShogunTravel

Item being sold/bought:
PS3 Games

Original thread link:
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1263055&hl=

Date of transaction:
Transaction date: 18 Dec 2009
Transaction time: 14:40:57

Details of the complaint :

I suspected ShogunTravel is a conman, until now he has not refund my money.
NOW CONFIRMED IS CONMAN

VICTIMS LIST
1. predatorX - RM207
2. ps3roxor - RM230
3. agv7981 - RM110
4. jeerie - RM340
5. pltan - RM207
6. Don104 - RM202
7. bugijun - RM309
8. xomanowar - RM91



i had a postage deal with ShogunTravel when i saw the above topic, then we agreed to deal with RM207. and then i banked in the money to Maybank2U to the account dasmand wong wei ming 111234069514

after that i felt something not right, and i do more research, the more research i did, then more i felt not right, especially with the other poster on the topics, most seem like posted by a same guy?? and then i saw the other ps3 selling topic by the ShogunTravel, i saw the images were not right, showing other "username".

Then, i told the seller i change my mind and asked for refund, the seller agreed told me will refund me and said he cant refund now because he cant switch on hp during working hours so cant get a TAC , so he said he wil be refund by 7:30PM later on Dec 18... and until today i hvnt receive the refund.

To prove my feeling not right, so i pmed Jayfreaky, another forumer posted in the topic. He wil have COD with ShogunTravel the next day. I asked Jayfreaky what's the ShogunTravel hp number, surprisingly, ShogunTravel dont want to give Jayfreaky hp number, even Jayfreaky asked for 2 times and said he will call him tomorrow. ShogunTravel did gv me his hp number 0109841878 after i banked in and requested from him. The number of coz is not in service if call .

After that, i found that the topic was closed.

I emailed LYN Helpdesk and they told me that someturks (the 2nd post in the thread) is come from same ip.

I received PM from Jayfreaky, ShogunTravel didnt show up to cod with him also.

Just beware everyone with these 2 username ShogunTravel & Someturks

Below is the transaction details

Amount: RM207.00 Status: Successful
Reference number: 1357756408
Transaction date: 18 Dec 2009
Transaction time: 14:40:57
From Account [censored]
To 3rd Party Account Number: 111234069514
Account Holder Name: DASMAND WONG WEI MIN
Recipient email: sctursa@hotmail.com
Effective date: Today
Description of transaction: AC 1+2

This post has been edited by predatorX: Jan 17 2010, 04:52 PM

Omg he almost scammed me too. He added me on msn to discuss about the pricing for his PS3 games.

Somehow, he keep urging me with all those lines like 'If you want to buy faster let me know cause I'm going to post other things also'

Then when I ask him to snap a picture for me, he will give all kinds of excuse like never bring phone to work, phone can snap pic but cannot send MMS.


I've check regarding shoguntravel and someturks, then i notice something very odd.

Both of them coincidentally are active in finance,business and investment?


Everyone please becareful of this person! He claims to be from KK. hope the authorities catch him soon.

ya.. i noticed that too... but this time im so careless

Useful piece of information. what should be the next to get the conman busted

I think can proceed to report to police since you have the bank account info already.

haiyo bro..
..faster make a report to police before he con another buyer..

This post has been edited by nouruddines: Dec 20 2009, 05:36 PM

will make report later.

just got call fr Desmand (thx to forumer who sent me the info), he said that's is his friend who owe him money and now running away to Philippine.... but however i will make report so police can investigate with desmand.

This post has been edited by predatorX: Dec 20 2009, 07:05 PM

[quote=predatorX,Dec 20 2009, 06:55 PM]

Hope peninsular,sarawakien citizens dont fast condemn us lowyaters from Sabah. Though im a newbie but im a legit trader

Predator, could you please PM me his number?

I paid him for MW2 and AC2, and I see TC also paid him for AC 1+2. This is too much of a coincidence. I will be making a police report as well once I have the number.

damn..I almost made a deal with him, after I pm him regarding the ps3 games, he straightaway asked me for my msn address, that made me suspicious and then afterwards I didn't continue to deal with him. Hopefully you guys can catch this SOB.

edit: btw, jayfreaky where did he promise you to do COD ar?

This post has been edited by maxpudding: Dec 21 2009, 10:20 AM

ShogunTravel,

Seen online at 11.19am today

Did not reply my PMs.

i replied ur pm, when did u pay him?

he not reply my PMs also... i already pm him about this dispute thread on the time i opened this thread.

This post has been edited by predatorX: Dec 21 2009, 12:22 PM

I now have his IC, address and phone number.

I called him and this is a summary

Me: Is this Dasmand?
Dasmand: Who the f**k is this? How did u get my number?
Me: I bought 2 Ps3 games from u, MW2 and AC2
Dasmand: Wtf are u talking abt? I don't remember such thing
Me: You can pretend, or we can do this the simple way, you refund me my money
Dasmand: You report la, I don't care, I don't want to talk to u *Hangs up*


I made 3 payments, Rm100, Rm10 and Rm120, a total of Rm230. I'll post just one for reference:

Status: Successful
Reference number: 1357623573
Transaction date: 17 Dec 2009 18:35:57
Amount: RM120.00
From Account: [My account]
To Open 3rd Party Account : 111234069514
3rd Party Email Address : Sctursa@hotmail.com
Account Holder Name : DASMAND WONG WEI MIN



This post has been edited by ps3roxor: Dec 21 2009, 12:32 PM

he sound so rude... same like the time i called him.

Could you summarize your conversation?

i also buy his MW2.. so we are buying the same game..
definitely will make a police report

sorry i cant.. coz we talked quite long time.. may b im the 1st caller.

wat i know is the scammer borrow money from dasmand WWM then ran away to philippine, when i ask wat's their relationship... then dasmand seem quite reluctant to tell... (my guess may be he is along?).. but there is no proof dasmand is not ShogunTravel... just dont believe it 100%.

Guys guys, please wake up.

If someone used ur name and account number for a scam while claiming they are acting as u. Would you keep the money or return to the victims to clear ur name?

Further to my conversation above, Dasmand has SMS-ed me the same story and refuses to refund no matter what. His last SMS was:



Me cheat him?
Used the money to pay others already?
Wants my IC and Name?

These are telltale signs, please do not let yourself be confused by lies. Logic thinking through his words and my explanation in the first sentence above will tell u he's just a bad liar.

From his way of response SMS with me (about 4-5 of them), it already tells me he IS ShogunTravel and the whole debtor story is just bullcrap.

This post has been edited by ps3roxor: Dec 21 2009, 01:43 PM

ya..i agree, coz there is where our money went... of coz we are looking at the account holder.

luckily i din deal wf him, coz suddenly he close all the thread, but he say still hv some games haven sold out, den ask me to bank in to him, but i refuse~

demm..he cheat my money too...
f***..going to hunt this guy...
i'm going to sabah..

If anyone wants to know, I googled "Deve 23 PS3" and I found the same pics of the PS3 and Games.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/156/want...t=#post15353905

Deve23 seems to be from US. Other posts:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/102/mark...80g-ps3-366721/


I also found this Dasmand / Sctursa, who is also into Poker, read the list and you will find Dasmand/Sctursa - Cheras

http://pokerkaki.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=94&t=2283

This post has been edited by ps3roxor: Dec 21 2009, 02:09 PM

More and more victims appear. TS better list out those victims name & amount involve in first post and pakat make report on this guy. Don't wait already. Straight make the report.

if you find him..teach him a lesson not to cheat other people money..

This case is bigger than I even imagined. I googled Dasmand earlier. This time I googled sctursa. And you won't believe how many scams "sctursa @ yahoo.com" has been associated with. Sctursa@yahoo.com and Sctursa@hotmail.com?

A scam about job opportunities in UK under Albert 016-3385823 / 018-6636442
Read the posts starting from #36 (Ngesan) - http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1006664/+20

Google sctursa@yahoo.com gives you -
Google Search Results

im updating the first post... think there r stil more victims..


good search.

crap, jeerie Rm340? Can you share how he respond to u? I nearly wanted to buy the PS3 but he said it was HK set and I refused to let his brother handle the warranty, otherwise I would've lost Rm1k+.

After reading through some topics in that kopitiam thread, Sctursa@yahoo has been involved in scams here in LYN involving:-

1. Air Asia tickets fraud/false tickets
2. UK recruitment fraud/scam
3. Faulty Ipod? (Not sure need confirmation)

There is also a Wong Wei-Ming professional photographer from S'rawak. Maybe not the same guy but who knows.

This post has been edited by ps3roxor: Dec 21 2009, 02:40 PM

Can maybank block/freeze his account..

wait until your wife knows about this... sure kena taruk kaw kaw punyer

IC = 840504126365
lot 323 taman indah permai 4,
jalan sepagor,
kota kinabalu
88200 sabah..

bank account 111234069514 maybank

Dasmand wong wei wing


this is the seller info

has police report logged already?


PS- i dont have a wife yet... i'm not angry because of my money is gone..i just angry because i'm cheated...

its not u lar jeerie... its about agv7981... i know him personally...

pity jeerie la he lost much more than me la.. for me RM110, just a little.. but cheating other people money is not right..

wow

Cheat Guru...

Ok I may have been scammed by this fellow as well.

207 dollars for two games. Apparently his office boy sent out the package on Saturday, but he has yet to send me the tracking number.


I shall be making a police report if the games or the money are not delivered to me.

This post has been edited by pltan: Dec 21 2009, 04:35 PM

Guess what?i am the victim too!

This is happened on last Friday noon 2.09pm,i am interested dealing games with him,so he said that once i bank in he will send out the item ASAP,so i do,banked in his Maybank A/C 111234069514 DASMAND WONG WEI MIN,the amount is RM202.

And also i asked for his mobile number,he said "the phone number is 0109841878 today u cant reach me because i 24 hours duty on my company which not allow hp."

but last Friday was Awal Muharram,so that Poslaju is off on that day,can't make any delivery.so i believed with him.

So i wait till' Saturday Dec 19,i called his mobile phone for several times & always get to voice mail,some more he did not make any reply on LYN too.on that time i knew something goes wrong.

But on Sunday early morning 7.53am he reply my LYN & said, "oh..sorry i din not reply any pm at yesterday.my office boy already sent the parcel no worry u will get it on monday".before he getting offline i called him to give me the parcel's reference number,but he din make any reply to me & also offline quick sudden.

And today i have wait wait & wait,finally the Poslaju's van is coming,but it just passed by my officel,nothing comes here...

Really fuzzy sometimes dealing with this Scum around,i am not sad for what i paying,is just a bit mad when ppl can do something with this.just for cheating few hundreds bucks.

This is the lesson i learned is,"DO NOT DEAL WITH PPL WHO MAKE & WILLING TO PAY FOR POSTAGE THERE,IF YOU ABLE TO DOUBLE CONFIRM WITH HIS IDENTITY AND HAVING PICTURE AROUND TO PROOF THE ITEM OR SOMETHING MORE CONVINCE."

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Added on December 21, 2009, 7:41 pmThis is the proof that i cheated by him.i am still have the picture on my pc,just no idea how to bring it out.


Status: Successful
Reference number: 1357761770
Transaction date: 18 Dec 2009 15:12:48

Amount: RM202.00

From Account: 112772028620

To Open 3rd Party Account : 111234069514
3rd Party Email Address : sctursa@hotmail.com
Account Holder Name : DASMAND WONG WEI MIN


Stay sharp everyone,pls not to be the next victim just like me

This post has been edited by Don104: Dec 21 2009, 07:41 PM

More victims. Any plan from the victims? Report? Few hundreds added up become thousands.

We should all make reports to the police.

Then with the account number given and the IC address provided earlier, the police can contact Maybank to release the account holder's details.

And finally we proceed with criminal charges.

damn, buying PS3 games also got conned..

Let's get a police case going.

And then we can use reference police report numbers and have the KK police investigate collectively for us, and arrest Mr.Dasmand

HOLY CRAP!!! I'm almost fall victim to this guy!! almost bought his PS3 Slim+MW2 for RM980 only, including shipping from KK to KL.

Something fishy about the pic he posted, as the pic of the power connector in the pic is the 2 pin type, and the nick on the paper also different. I asked him about those, and he cooked up some stories being his elder bro's set and etc etc

I knew this deal is too sweet to be true, so I ask him for his contact and location, so that I can ask gundamalpha who lives in KK also to physically verify the item is genuine.

After a few exchange of PM between me and him, I smell something no right already, COD and postage to KL still same price, and kept quiet after I ask him for contact details. Luckily I pull out from the deal after smelling fish!

Here's the PM between me and him

ME
bro, can pm for the best price of ps3 + COD:mw2 including shipping to KL
serious buyer here
cheers!

HIM
RM980 Free postage

ME
cool, the set is from which region?
i saw in the pic the power plug is not MY type

HIM
yes. the power plug is not my type but have come with another plug. the set is come from HK . my brother bought it and bring it to US for 2 month.

ME
ok, i got fren in KK, if COD there can be cheaper?
and pls gimme your contact details pls, and which part of KK you're in
cheers!

HIM
COD is the same price. im staying at sepangar here.

ME
ok, thanks, pls reserve the package (ps3+mw2) for me, confirmed getting form you
but if you don't mind i would like my friend to inspect the item first for me
can I have your contact number? so that I can arrange my fren there to meet up with you
cheers!

ME
bro, the package you reserved for me or issit sold to others already?

HIM
still on nego the buyer ask me to close the thread and said sold. i will do it First come first serve basis

ME
huh? didn't i confirmed the purchase with you earlier with the price of RM980?
and he's still nego the price with you?

HIM
yes. but i only consider which who pay first. he still on msn with me .

ME
I have confirmed the purchase, and you haven't even discuss the payment details with me, and you already closing the sales to others while still nego the price?
Is this the way of doing business?
good luck in your sales anyway, I'm no longer interest.

HIM
the buyer ask me to do that . so i only follow their rules. let me know what time ur friends were able to meet me . or u have msn ? faster we chat at there. sorry for any inconvenience

ME
sorry bro, i'm no longer interested
you can sell your item to other buyer
thanks

hi guys, i updated the victims list.. now we hv been scammed and reaching to thousand adi ...

yeah...i'm the highest....ouwh yeah babeh..
demmmit...i try to forget about this but still in my mind...

when u guys wanna make a police report...?
lets go togather

I think these few days i am going to make report toward police,this is a really serious fraud cases!

I think enable to use this guy Desmand with his Maybank a/c & report to police check through his details.

Maybe we can gather around & make report together??

Pls make a police report.
He had been banned by the admin so he wouldn't be scamming anymore in LYN.

b00n thanks for prompt response. Could I also ask that the admins check for accounts with same IP and accounts registered using email address similiar to sctursa@yahoo.com / hotmail.com, seeing as there is a history of scams related to same actual person.

Admins' efforts much appreciated.

Btw, ShogunTravel was still last online today at 11am.

This post has been edited by ps3roxor: Dec 22 2009, 03:45 PM

He was banned only today.
Anyway, email your request to helpdesk@lowyat.net and citing this topic.
The admin would look into this.

Sorry to hear you guys losses, have you guys make police reports...?

damn! i also buy ps3 games from him...damn it...mw2+uncharted+uncharted2, totalling of RM 309...he didn't reply my pm and ym...

anything that we can do to this SOB? first time being con in lyn..hiyahh...

Wahh.scary,.thanks for sharing and making LYN community better.

I also almost kena con by this guy, coz was about to buy his PS3 and MW2 also, he said almost the exact same thing to me... then i also noticed the 2 pin plug. So I offered to buy the MW2 first and hold back on the ps3, I refused to pay first coz I noticed he is new member and no positive feedback, so I ask him post item first then only i pay or i pay small deposit first. then he tell me negotiating with other buyer and all those crap thru msn, he added my msn also. He also offered me some other games that he wanted to sell then he opened a new thread selling games, then I saw positive feedback, rupanya is he ownself post. Luckily in the end I neva deal with him.

This post has been edited by sengwee1988: Dec 22 2009, 08:18 PM

bro, how did you get his ic no? i'm gonna lodge a police report today

any updated news? really wonder whats the fella looks like

if ban how come he can online yesterday?

[Last Active Yesterday, 08:04 PM]

He can still come in as we allow him to. So basically he would still know that you guys are going to file a case against him.

basically, how do u banned him? just the nickname account or IP? then if he registered another new account?
curious to know...

This post has been edited by subrok007: Dec 24 2009, 02:08 PM

already lodge a police report and a complain to Tribunal Pengguna...waiting for their action and reply, you guys should make your own report also, we cannot let this sucker roam free...i'm really piss of my own stupidity...ughh...

i ask him last time, but seem not true ic number

I know what it feels like to be cheated, and I'm really really sorry for you guys. It's hard to trade in LYN when the "Gamer's Creed" is solely based on trust. May Hades have mercy on his soul and take him deeper under.

this thread is getting more and more interesting....btw sorry for your loses.....

the ic is fake... ...i'll try and bring my report to maybank and ask for their help....

hey guys...what i don't understand is why do you guys bank in the money first before getting the item???

that is the risk of online trading, you pay first then the seller will post the items...

anyway, here's sum update, today i went to maybank and got his ic no...840504-13-5219, and his phone no...012-622 0999...never bother to check the phone number though...and his account only left rm1 only....

This post has been edited by bugijun: Dec 29 2009, 08:55 PM

holy Sh!+, this guy took out all his money before his acc. being freeze !!

i saw he online in MSN and i text him, but no reply and signed off...huhu

maybe not sign off, he can just block u

his pic..


found here

It may, or may not be related.

We're looking for Dasmand Wong, plus it's an account registered under this name.

This post has been edited by ps3roxor: Jan 5 2010, 11:21 AM

this is really interesting. any updates on the police report?

Sad to say i am also one of his victim... Bank in 91 bucks for Uncharted 1 before xmas... never hear from him after that...

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Added on January 15, 2010, 11:33 ampredatorX pls update me into the Victim list

This post has been edited by xomanowar: Jan 15 2010, 11:33 AM

How is the police report going on? He maybe one of us in this replies session. This guy actually just leave nearby my kolej kediaman in indah permai.

can you give us detail about him if you have..

Yeah? Can you stop by his house?

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Added on February 5, 2010, 12:04 amCan you please post his complete address?


This post has been edited by pltan: Feb 5 2010, 12:04 AM

any updates?

sorry, its not my fight. I do not want to get in between fights. Hope y'all understand.

Its the personal satisfaction of aiding the good guys get back on a guy who steals. how is that 'not your fight'?

put it this way, you're just... Aiding. haha

What is desmand's phone no.? anyone? I will personally go to his place on the sepanggar address... anyone can help me with his info? I got scammed nearly rm10k. please do reply asap.

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Added on March 5, 2010, 3:13 pmIam in Sabah, please tell me his address... I being cheated also.

This post has been edited by Ihatescammer: Mar 5 2010, 03:13 PM

are you a dupe? you've just registered today and you've got scammed nearly 10k?

yes I registered today because when I googled sctursa@yahoo.com, I found this forum. because before, I got scam by him then don't know where did he go. now you guys seems also have same case, so I need you guys help to find him. if he is in sabah area, I will come to his house together with the police.

Here....

is that the address given by the bank? its Taman Sepanggar not sepagor. because if the address given is from bank, then it is a reliable info. otherwise that person could just made up fake address. anyone who have HSBC friend working? this bank account no. 022023634025. name something like got CHING...

that one given to me is a fake address,

maybe some one can trace his address through his phone number?

Someone lodged a police report earlier, why can't they provide his address? Either through his IC , mobile or Maybank account which was frozen?

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Added on March 7, 2010, 10:53 pmHow'd you get scammed of 10k?

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Added on November 23, 2011, 4:51 pmBeware of bastards.

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Added on December 17, 2011, 8:09 pmbump

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Added on December 17, 2011, 8:19 pmThis post has been edited by pltan: Dec 17 2011, 08:19 PM