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Patrick Star
post Nov 16 2011, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(Oldskolboyz @ Nov 16 2011, 11:14 AM)
U learn from where? Who Ur guru? My GROSS PROFIT only 27%-30% & not NET PROFIT, it work very well. U got 50% net profit, what I can said is Wooowww... as long U can make a profit (net) is good already, doesn't matter 10%, 20% or 30%... If refer to S/B, profit not belong to U.. it belong to the company, where it increased Ur Com. share value...

Selling low quality product like Car amplifier made in China, Yes it can make even 200% net profit cause cost per unit just a few ringgit & selling price at a few hundred ringgit.... like "BROTHERS" products
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Hi,

Thanks for ur advice..i want to get advices from diff ppl..

wt type product r u selling?


QUOTE(Icehart @ Nov 16 2011, 11:47 AM)
Thank you for your interest. Actually now we're still sorting out packaging details and operating in December 2011. Will let you know via PM once things are sorted out.  smile.gif


Added on November 16, 2011, 11:48 am
Thank you for some insight about marketing our products.  smile.gif
Will contact some local distributors.
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Hi,

kindly let us know once ur product is ok. As i m also in f&b business.

thanks
Patrick Star
post Nov 16 2011, 03:57 PM

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Added on November 16, 2011, 10:05 amHi All,

I have a questions here need advices from all of you.

Let say i am selling a food product. After deduct cost n expenses, if the net profit is 50% or less than 50%, is it worth it to continue to sell?

Got business people tell me, if the profit not more than 50% the business earn little and Waste ur time.

I wanna know how much profit is consider ok to continue in a business..

In other industries beside food, is it the same situation as well? or they earn more percentage?

Need advices..

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Anymore advices from lowyat members here? i need more..
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post Nov 17 2011, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(katopunk @ Nov 16 2011, 08:07 PM)
I think you have some confusion regarding gross profit and nett profit.

Gross profit = Sales - Cost of sales (Direct product cost + Packaging)

Nett profit = Sales - Cost of sales - Fixed overhead expenses (Salary, Rental, Utilities and etc) - Loan Interest - Tax - Etc

In F&B, I think a more realistic nett profit lies around 5-20% of your sales.
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Hi,

thanks for your advices.. i m talking bout net profit..after deduct all the expenses n cost..

QUOTE(Icehart @ Nov 16 2011, 09:16 PM)
I am from F&B industry but more specialized in restaurant kind of business, selling foods and drinks in chinese coffee shop. I don't know if this is applicable but there are some goods that you can sell at more than 50% margin and some less than 50% margin.  smile.gif
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Hi,

i agree wif u.. Cuz if the profit too low we want to switch to other product.

we r in the midst of searching..
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post Jan 31 2012, 03:00 PM

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Hi All,

We are selling food seasoning powder. Our sales people is limited and facing a problem of unable to increase sales volume faster.

Any way to increase sales volume in a faster time? Like ask other people or company to sell our product? Sell to overseas company?

We find that sell it online is throwing price. the price can get very low and earn peanuts.
Need advice from all sifus..
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post Apr 12 2012, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(georgelimsk @ Apr 11 2012, 07:05 PM)
last took about about RM1500 form walls.sales was 3000. estimated to hit 4000 this month.only sell from 3pm-12am. sometimes only sell 6-12am. planning to do something else in the daytime. cant tahan the heat in daytime. =(
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bro,

how long u take for your business income equal ur salary?


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post Apr 12 2012, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(georgelimsk @ Apr 12 2012, 08:31 PM)
for the moment. my earning can coup my expenses. i got the whole daytime doing something else. planning to sells toys. need to survey market first.
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haha..

no bro..

previously u doin biz part time when u under employment..

i mean how many year u manage ur part time business before turn into full time biz?
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post Apr 13 2012, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(georgelimsk @ Apr 13 2012, 10:04 AM)
i started off in december 2010, importing gummibears (HARIBO) from Germany. rugi teruk. then i switch to local sweets. sales was very lilttle Rm10-30/night. i do that for almost a year, then i started with ice cream in nov 2011. after 1 month. i have decided to do full time. if u calculate by everything. i took 1 year to test market. if u calculate by business type, can say almost immediately. average ice cream sales per day is 100-200, 100% profit from cost, i just need rm3000 sales a month.then i will profit 1500. 1500 is enough to cover all my expenses now.

btw, i just masuk chinese lego today. 100% same like lego.

http://www.lhtoys.com/en/index.asp
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how buy from the chinese logo? i wana buy
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post Apr 13 2012, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(georgelimsk @ Apr 13 2012, 10:04 AM)
i started off in december 2010, importing gummibears (HARIBO) from Germany. rugi teruk. then i switch to local sweets. sales was very lilttle Rm10-30/night. i do that for almost a year, then i started with ice cream in nov 2011. after 1 month. i have decided to do full time. if u calculate by everything. i took 1 year to test market. if u calculate by business type, can say almost immediately. average ice cream sales per day is 100-200, 100% profit from cost, i just need rm3000 sales a month.then i will profit 1500. 1500 is enough to cover all my expenses now.

btw, i just masuk chinese lego today. 100% same like lego.

http://www.lhtoys.com/en/index.asp
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bro, where u sell your ice cream? night market o hawker?

average how many stick u can sell per day o per week?
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post Apr 30 2012, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(turtle85 @ Apr 30 2012, 04:37 PM)
Let me share my opinion on Hawker business to those who interested to open stall.

Basically hawker business is a very good way to start if you dont have much $$$ to do the business you want to start.

My family are into Hawker business around 10year++ give or take.
Chicken Rice business is the best in term of profit margin, but it required alot of work such as making the chili, soup, etc. My parent stall monthly net profit is around 8K++ and thats only a normal laku, not like famous stall business.

Mean while got competitor who open many years b4 us are driving Mercedes cool2.gif  and stay at Bungalow, he's selling around 60-80pcs of chicken everyday not include other stuff such Duck, Roaster Pxrk, etc.
I m happy to share if anyone really want to do this business can ask for more info. smile.gif
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Hi,

if those selling food in night market can earn alot?

i heard some say earn alot some say rugi..

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post May 4 2012, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(georgelimsk @ May 4 2012, 12:15 AM)
i worked for a trading company dealing in health scales. very niche market. wan masuk government hospital need to be bumi contractor. so only supply to local private hospital. lotsa problems...sikit sikit call u go.

u can try to approach those ppl who help ppl to set - up clinics. KL market is very competitive. alot of importer play sendiri. penang market mostly lone ranger who spoils market value.
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agree rclxms.gif
i worked in health n science sales..

too many trading company in malaysia..all import from overseas.
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post Oct 18 2012, 03:34 PM

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Hi All..

have some queries here to ask all sifus..

pls advise whether this business is worth to do n invest.this business is selling food spices. below are our queries:-

1) we take stock from factory to resell.. profit margin is 30%. consider ok?

2) the factory supply to individuals, shops, factory n agents. no MOQ to take from factory. factory price slightly lower than us. can we fight wif factory in the market?

3) there also alot agents in the market selling same thing. there are price throwing. how to win other agents?

4) the factory say wont supply to our client. but how we know they wont? as don have black n white.

factory not shud only supply to big customers that order alot? if the factory also supply to all the customers, how the reseller can make money? as customers sure go to lower price once they found out.

i m not sure other industries is it the same situation as the above. kindly advise whether this business is worth to do.

thanks
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post Oct 18 2012, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(tom_87 @ Oct 18 2012, 03:38 PM)
is this a local factory or overseas?
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hi,

the product is manufactured locally
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post Oct 19 2012, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(NightHeart @ Oct 19 2012, 11:34 AM)
I was doing something similar.

1) 30% profit margin seems okay. But at the end of the day, is that amount justifiable for the effort that you have to pour in? Only you can answer that.

2) In my case, the distributor has 2 different pricing. Market price & reseller who purchased in bulk price. But yes, at the end of the day, the factory is still your competitor. But like kurty said, you can compete via value added service instead of price. Give your client a reason to buy from you instead of the factory, the easiest example is delivery service, credit terms etc. 

3) Only the value added services that makes you special & important can truly stop your client from going direct to the factory. But my distributor told me something that I can't forget; "There's no difference to me whether I sell to you or to your clients, my total revenue will be the same because they come to me to buy at the price that I sell to you. So I rather protect you (resellers) & help you grow because your success is my success too."

4) The factory is running a business too. They can sell to everyone if they want to. But if they are greedy & short sighted, they will cannibalize their agents by selling cheaper. So avoid being agents for this type of factories. A good factory is the one that has a different price for resellers/agents.
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thanks bro for ur advice..

ya..now the situation is like tat..the factory sell to everyone.. no MOQ at all.. the price the factory give to everyone is cheaper than the price agents sell to their customers. if like tat, is it wasting those agents time to recruit customers? when customers found out cheaper price they will stop buying from agents

in this case, this business worth to do?



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