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post Dec 19 2009, 11:18 AM, updated 16y ago

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Translated from chinese to english:

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y...history_state0=

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Added by stimix: (More explanation on the differences from other sources)

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With the new RTD1283 program listing of the major forums for Sigma Designs and the two chip manufacturers Realtek contrast more intense discussion, of course, there is also no lack of manufacturers representatives Huyou, misleading consumer choices consumers make mistakes. Well, today we have to broke the news about the two mainstream chips, "hidden rules."

RTD1073 and SMP8635 sound quality comparison
Sound quality, SMP8635 supports DTS-HD source output, sound quality is also ahead of other decoding RTD1073, a next-generation power amplifier cares about sound quality would no doubt choose SMP8635, or no less demanding on the next-generation audio amplifier can choose to RTD1073. However, Realtek chip, the emergence of newly published RTD1283 changed the status quo, it can well supported next-generation audio, but now on the market use RTD1283 chip players still less than normal.

RTD1073 and SMP8635-quality comparison
Quality aspects, RTD1073 Although the program's products have also played the banner of 1080p, but the actual number of low-end products only go to 720p. If you need to use super-high-definition projection watch, then 1080p will find RTD1073's a lot less than the SMP8635 of 1080p. So SMP8635 is more practical for high-quality requirements, and recommended the use of home theater program.

RTD1073 and SMP8635 Network Comparison
In the network support, although the RTD1073 and SMP8635 support network function, support BT download. However, the reasons are basically SMP8635 software and hardware products in the domestic BT download difficult to achieve. RTD1073 relatively simple to set up the software, the hardware also has good support, BT download can be a very good implementation. But the Realtek network advantages not only this, the new RTD1283 chip also supports the popular WiFi networks, including direct support for large-scale video website YouTube in support of the mainstream media, RSS capabilities. That a rich network applications will also become an important reason why users choose Realtek.
RTD1073 and SMP8635 File Format Comparison

For the file format support, RTD1073 have an absolute advantage, SMP8635 is no advantage at all, because RTD1073 supports RMVB, RM, if you have to look at RMVB, then definitely choose RTD1073 program. After all, some of the many resources online to download or use of RMVB format, high-definition player, the necessary functions less.
RTD1073 and SMP8635DTS decoding contrast

In the DTS decoder area, RTD1073 chip products basically support DTS software decoding. The SMP8635 also features soft solution although the DTS capabilities, but not with SMP8635 software products that support DTS decoding, we pay special attention to the time of purchase, different brands have different models, if the product was not bought SMP8635 software solution DTS capabilities, but also want to buy their own decoders, it uneconomical. RTD1073 and the use of technology RTD1283 Comparison

Although the division RTD1073 and RTD1283 out of the same door, but they are prepared for different purposes. RTD1073 targeted at players, but RTD1283 located in the hard disk-like video recorders, playback, if only from the point of view, no distinction between the two. From the view of the chip manufacturing process, RTD1283 using more advanced technology, RTD1283 is a BGA package, rather than RTD1073.
RTD1073 and RTD1283 thermal stability of the contrast


Realtek RTD1073 program the biggest bottleneck is the heat, high heat to bring the stability and reliability also will be reduced; Another problem is the firmware, for now, Taiwan's Realtek has not done right, as the United States, SIGMA Customers open source, such RTD1073 inside BUG, also need to Realtek themselves gradually solved.


Chines forum source :

http://bbs.htpc1.com/thread-67323-1-2.html

http://www.copy1080p.com.cn/web/Baed...95305_217.html
Extracted From: http://www.mpcclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21464

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post Dec 19 2009, 11:27 AM

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wd got sound with truehd bd. Realtek no sound.
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post Dec 19 2009, 11:54 AM

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From the comparison, it seems that the output of Realtek is brighter and crisper and to my eye it is better, the Sigma tends to give softer picture...
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post Dec 19 2009, 03:38 PM

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my observation is opposite, i..e sigma is sharper (realtek softer).. so does owners who own both units and spend considerable time on both units..


Added on December 19, 2009, 3:44 pmas your link show, which is sharper and which is softer..

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Dec 19 2009, 03:38 PM)
my observation is opposite, i..e sigma is sharper (realtek softer).. so does owners who own both units and spend considerable time on both units..


Added on December 19, 2009, 3:44 pmas your link show, which is sharper and which is softer..

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Even though this result shows the Sigma is shaper but overall I feel the realtek graphic is much saturated giving vivid colors.
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post Dec 19 2009, 04:40 PM

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yeah colors, looks like realtek slightly better.. maybe sigma also can adjust those color properties?
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really good comparison, rclxms.gif
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post Dec 30 2009, 01:28 AM

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Hi guys and girls, are there any sigma chip hd media player that decodes dts in the rm350-rm500 category? thanx in advance to every1 for helping
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post Dec 30 2009, 06:08 AM

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you mean like the WDTV live?
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post Dec 30 2009, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(azbro @ Dec 30 2009, 06:08 AM)
you mean like the WDTV live?
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ya maybe.. does WDTV live downmix dts to stereo if we dont have avr?
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post Dec 30 2009, 01:36 PM

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should be able to do with ease.. or else throw in longkang (2nd gen product must do it).. tongue.gif
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post Dec 30 2009, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Dec 30 2009, 01:36 PM)
should be able to do with ease.. or else throw in longkang (2nd gen product must do it).. tongue.gif
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What;'s the differences between wdtv and wdtv live?
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QUOTE(putih @ Dec 30 2009, 01:55 PM)
What;'s the differences between wdtv and wdtv live?
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Its almost the same except that the Live got network capability so can stream video from your PC's HDD and got youtube, internet radio and flickr built in.

Live also have cpu twice the speed so it can play any mkv you throw at it and can even play the high reframe rates mkv.


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post Dec 31 2009, 08:16 AM

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Even the WDTV (non-live) has 2 versions. The very first one does not have DTS downmix and does not support DeepColour because it is HDMI1.2. The second version is HDMI1.3, has DTS downmix, and supprts deepcolour. The latest firmware for this second version has already been released and can be found on WDC homepage.
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QUOTE(wuanzi @ Dec 31 2009, 08:16 AM)
Even the WDTV (non-live) has 2 versions. The very first one does not have DTS downmix and does not support DeepColour because it is HDMI1.2.  The second version is HDMI1.3, has DTS downmix, and supprts deepcolour.  The latest firmware for this second version has already been released and can be found on WDC homepage.
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Thanx a million for clarifying... appreciate your help... thanx to every1 here too
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post Jan 8 2010, 12:00 PM

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stimix you can refer to this thread..
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QUOTE(echoesian @ Dec 19 2009, 04:20 PM)
Even though this result shows the Sigma is shaper but overall I feel the realtek graphic is much saturated giving vivid colors.
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Has this been verified with a meter? If not, and someone is willing to loan me one to generate the charts, I would be happy to show the results. I can get hold of the Live for comparison, just need one with the Realtek chip.
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QUOTE(echoesian @ Dec 19 2009, 11:54 AM)
From the comparison, it seems that the output of Realtek is brighter and crisper and to my eye it is better, the Sigma tends to give softer picture...
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I just checked out the comparison, which in my opinion is not the correct way. The author is comparing apples to oranges. These shd be compared post calibration. From what I read, he is comparing out of the box. Each chipset will be different.

Also, most definately, the Realtek has an in built sharpening tool. It is clear in the test pattern. The only way u can see the artefacts like jagged lines is when u turn up sharpness too much.

As such, to the untrained eye, on normal pictures the Realtek will appear sharper, albeit, wrong.

Based on just images, the Sigma seems to be doing a more accurate greyscale, whereas the Realtek is way too cool whites.
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Err..not exactly the right thread but while we're still "hoping" for HD audio, anyone here knows where I can get this (HDX BD-1)?

http://www.hdx1080.com/

which looks to be the ultimate player. Sometimes, u just wanna pay a premium price and get a unit with the "least" amount of problems.

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yeah we are all waiting for the BD-1 price and availability.. locally..

http://www.hdx1080.com/index.php?page=shop...1&Itemid=100094
"Please take note that, product is expected to be shipped on 15th Jan 2010."

quite cheap.. USD219..
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^ Wah, that's good. I don't mind spending the money. I'm sick of buying half-baked media players.

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jan 8 2010, 03:42 PM)
yeah we are all waiting for the BD-1 price and availability.. locally..

http://www.hdx1080.com/index.php?page=shop...1&Itemid=100094
"Please take note that, product is expected to be shipped on 15th Jan 2010."

quite cheap.. USD219..
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wow looks tempting...i might jump to this ! if theres a bonus !
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QUOTE(welwitchia @ Jan 8 2010, 03:48 PM)
^ Wah, that's good. I don't mind spending the money. I'm sick of buying half-baked media players.
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biggrin.gif it's a trend now to buy half baked solutions.. new owners sure say it's darn good.. until the newness wears off and when can't play this or that file with HD audio, competently..
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I prefer the xtreamer, have one and it works well. needs some wotk but so do all media players out the.

payonhs and xtreamer run the same software if I'm not wrong.
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BD-1 same Sigma chipset as the Popcorn and Dune...
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QUOTE(chewkl @ Jan 8 2010, 04:14 PM)
BD-1 same Sigma chipset as the Popcorn and Dune...
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no RMVB then,
bos, it considered half baked or not from your view point? biggrin.gif
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If a media player plays mkv, DVD iso, BD iso, & BDMV without any problems, then it's not half-baked for me. biggrin.gif
RMVB compatibility is nice but not a necessity.

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jan 8 2010, 04:23 PM)
no RMVB then,
bos, it considered half baked or not from your view point?  biggrin.gif
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I dunno, some elite said I'm a hard man to please... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(welwitchia @ Jan 8 2010, 04:29 PM)
If a media player plays mkv, DVD iso, BD iso, & BDMV without any problems, then it's not half-baked for me.  biggrin.gif
RMVB compatibility is nice but not a necessity.
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For me, half baked also can bcos it's life and death situation. If no rmvb my wife will kill me.
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QUOTE(welwitchia @ Jan 8 2010, 04:29 PM)
If a media player plays mkv, DVD iso, BD iso, & BDMV without any problems, then it's not half-baked for me.  biggrin.gif
RMVB compatibility is nice but not a necessity.
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Can play but no sound how? Charlie Chaplin? Half-baked or not? whistling.gif
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QUOTE(chewkl @ Jan 8 2010, 04:45 PM)
Can play but no sound how? Charlie Chaplin? Half-baked or not? whistling.gif
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based on his comment, then it's half baked.. biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(soonwai @ Jan 8 2010, 04:42 PM)
For me, half baked also can bcos it's life and death situation. If no rmvb my wife will kill me.
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I see rmvb mostly prawn stuff in the net....got movies with rmvb as well?
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QUOTE(azbro @ Jan 8 2010, 04:58 PM)
I see rmvb mostly prawn stuff in the net....got movies with rmvb as well?
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chinese TV series la.. doh.gif wife see prawn meh???
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jan 8 2010, 05:00 PM)
chinese TV series la..  doh.gif  wife see prawn meh???
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Maybe the prawn in District 9? whistling.gif
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QUOTE(azbro @ Jan 8 2010, 04:58 PM)
I see rmvb mostly prawn stuff in the net....got movies with rmvb as well?
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there are many in fact, esp. those telesync
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QUOTE(kianwee @ Jan 8 2010, 05:01 PM)
Maybe the prawn in District 9? whistling.gif
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Wakaka...I think the same.

But, if one has all, why not. Human are greedy...hehe.... biggrin.gif
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Never seen rmvb prawn before. Mostly mkv or avi...whistling.gif
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That's why I used the words "without any problems". biggrin.gif

QUOTE(ar188 @ Jan 8 2010, 04:53 PM)
based on his comment, then it's half baked..  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(welwitchia @ Jan 8 2010, 05:10 PM)
That's why I used the words "without any problems".  biggrin.gif
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hence why I replied on your behalf for those who don't quite read english.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Jan 8 2010, 12:05 PM)
Has this been verified with a meter? If not, and someone is willing to loan me one to generate the charts, I would be happy to show the results. I can get hold of the Live for comparison, just need one with the Realtek chip.
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i got realtek chip player but not going to pg so soon.. if i do go will let u know..

bro, remember when i tested my wdtv in your house we compared with your bd for the same show.. our naked eye could hardly tell the diff between the two.. but if u compare sigma n realtek there is definately a diff.. to some ppl (me) realtek is softer n more noise.. to others maybe realtek is better.. i am no pro so i am not going to argue:)
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QUOTE(mys_terious @ Jan 9 2010, 04:16 PM)
i got realtek chip player but not going to pg so soon.. if i do go will let u know..

bro, remember when i tested my wdtv in your house we compared with your bd for the same show.. our naked eye could hardly tell the diff between the two.. but if u compare sigma n realtek there is definately a diff.. to some ppl (me) realtek is softer n more noise.. to others maybe realtek is better.. i am no pro so i am not going to argue:)
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I dun think anyone is gonna say realtek is better than sigma at H264 video (so far those with both units already confirm sigma is better at this).. usually they just say realtek is a great player which can also play RMVB 720p as a bonus...
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jan 9 2010, 04:26 PM)
I dun think anyone is gonna say realtek is better than sigma at H264 video (so far those with both units already confirm sigma is better at this).. usually they just say realtek is a great player which can also play RMVB 720p as a bonus...
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In that case, really regret now la thinking to sold off my POHD and get the WDTV Live for better PQ
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QUOTE(echoesian @ Jan 9 2010, 05:12 PM)
In that case, really regret now la thinking to sold off my POHD and get the WDTV Live for better PQ
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blink.gif Don't la regret!
The way I see it, is that this media thingy is still at its infancy, as such there will forever be a better player on the horizon.

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The LIVE doesn't read the frame rate of the mkv file. It just plays them back at the resolution/Hz that you've set. You might wanna consider that before u jump over to the LIVE. Don't say we didn't tell u the problems with the LIVE. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(echoesian @ Jan 9 2010, 05:12 PM)
In that case, really regret now la thinking to sold off my POHD and get the WDTV Live for better PQ
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QUOTE(welwitchia @ Jan 9 2010, 06:56 PM)
The LIVE doesn't read the frame rate of the mkv file. It just plays them back at the resolution/Hz that you've set. You might wanna consider that before u jump over to the LIVE. Don't say we didn't tell u the problems with the LIVE.  biggrin.gif
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But at least WDTV Live can play those high bitrates mkv with high reframes, POHD cant!
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QUOTE(echoesian @ Jan 9 2010, 06:58 PM)
But at least WDTV Live can play those high bitrates mkv with high reframes, POHD cant!
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POHD so lousy? rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(CoffeeDude @ Jan 9 2010, 11:04 PM)
POHD so lousy? rclxub.gif
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OK OK la. some thing sigma can do, some things realtek can do.. thumbup.gif
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I hope this doesn't turn into a Realtek sucks , Sigma rules thread.
If the POHD can't do high reframes, then all the current Realteks can't. The important point here is that there aren't many mkvs out there with high reframes. So dissing the POHD because of that is ridiculous.
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QUOTE(welwitchia @ Jan 9 2010, 11:39 PM)
I hope this doesn't turn into a Realtek sucks , Sigma rules thread.
If the POHD can't do high reframes, then all the current Realteks can't.  The important point here is that there aren't many mkvs out there with high reframes. So dissing the POHD because of that is ridiculous.
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sigma great for H264 and can play HD audio, realtek 1073dd great for RMVB720.. ok. that settles it all..

as for high reframes.. if I see any files with this, I'll just delete it if giving problem.. it's an encoding error by the creator.... can't blame a player if cannot play files due to encode errors..
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haha nothing is perfect. Me settle 4 d wan can play both.
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jan 10 2010, 12:03 AM)
sigma great for H264 and can play HD audio, realtek 1073dd great for RMVB720.. ok. that settles it all..

as for high reframes.. if I see any files with this, I'll just delete it if giving problem.. it's an encoding error by the creator.... can't blame a player if cannot play files due to encode errors..
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Not feeding the fire....but....
My source are mostly MKV hardly any RMVB720, feels missing out on the actions.
hmm.gif Don't mind PM me the URL for RMVB720. Would like to compare their qualities, Can?
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anybody got close contact with the above sets

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That LimHD looks very lim pek ho liao!
Got any url to the original source or manufacturer.
Have a friend going to China this month end. Am going to Singapore for a few weeks next month maybe can find it there with Sg warranty.
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the brochure didnt state BDMV or BDiso,
but the retailer seems to say can play40GB or so BD ripped files, still have to check out 1st, but cost around RM1.3k

i was demo-ed the HDmax something similar to dune,
and she say the 330A PQ and AQ is very much better

will drop by and test later ( once they fully set up ) biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(yangxi @ Jan 12 2010, 07:19 PM)
thanks bro Yangxi....
looks like many OEM sets biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Jan 10 2010, 01:09 PM)
Not feeding the fire....but....
My source are mostly MKV hardly any RMVB720, feels missing out on the actions.
hmm.gif Don't mind PM me the URL for RMVB720. Would like to compare their qualities, Can?
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how to compare realtek with sigma as sigma doesn;'t play RMVB...


Added on January 12, 2010, 10:06 pm
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the brochure didnt state BDMV or BDiso,
but the retailer seems to say can play40GB or so BD ripped files, still have to check out 1st, but cost around RM1.3k

i was demo-ed the HDmax something similar to dune,
and she say the 330A PQ and AQ is very much better

will drop by and test later  ( once they fully set up ) biggrin.gif

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sure you want a player that costs 1.3K , but does it load the BD properly like a real BD player?? not sure cos it's in chinese..
anyway better get the HDx BD1 for less than 1k..
also check if it bitstreams both HD audio?

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how to compare realtek with sigma as sigma doesn;'t play RMVB...
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Oh? Thanks for the carification.
I see forummers talking about RMVB720 but so far the sites I visited don't have. This make me wonder then is it worth getting an other media player that can also play RMVB720?

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maybe can consider get a WD live (better H264 decoding) + a cheapo RMVB 720p player from yangxi (for RMVB 720p decoding)? better than Xtreamer/POHD?
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jan 12 2010, 10:03 PM)
how to compare realtek with sigma as sigma doesn;'t play RMVB...


Added on January 12, 2010, 10:06 pm

sure you want a player that costs 1.3K , but does it load the BD properly like a real BD player?? not sure cos it's in chinese..
anyway better get the HDx BD1 for less than 1k..
also check if it bitstreams both HD audio?
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yup confirm .. it doesnt load the BD menu stuff,
yes would like to have one that does the menu, seriously does the HDX BD1 does the menu stuff

does it come with a separate PSU

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QUOTE(moomoos @ Jan 14 2010, 12:34 AM)

yes would like to have one that does the menu, seriously does the HDX BD1 does the menu stuff

does it come with a separate PSU

why need so advance player? some say watch MKV without BD menu cukup la.. biggrin.gif what's the fuss with all the other extra features in the BD disc?

anyway am sure it comes with external power brick.. too small to fit size for it to have internal PSU like a full width BD deck..
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For me, simple. If it doesn't do HD audio, can forget abt it.

BD1 is one of the best media player, if not the best. At abt RM1K, I don't think any media player comes as close.
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Acherly, why wanna compare 8655 with 1073?
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compare with 8635?
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compare with 8635?
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culprit here haha. I think good comparison thread.. No meh?
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culprit here haha. I think good comparison thread.. No meh?
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congrats on being pinned rclxms.gif biggrin.gif

never into realtek..only sigma for me... biggrin.gif

QUOTE(htkaki @ Jan 14 2010, 01:10 AM)
For me, simple. If it doesn't do HD audio, can forget abt it.

BD1 is one of the best media player, if not the best. At abt RM1K, I don't think any media player comes as close.
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agreed... can't wait for BD1 Feb review... biggrin.gif

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title should edit.

Realtek China Brand vs (AngMo remark brand)

*the same chipset , why sell overprice tongue.gif

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QUOTE(yangxi @ Jan 20 2010, 01:28 AM)
title should edit.

Realtek China Brand vs (AngMo remark brand)

*the same chipset , why sell overprice  tongue.gif
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oversea brand (ac ryan,asus,seagate, MEDE83R ....)
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he meant those western "brands" using realtek also..
but POHD is western meh?
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POHD holland mali wan loh...

QUOTE(ar188 @ Jan 20 2010, 09:29 AM)
he meant those western "brands" using realtek also..
but POHD is western meh?
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bcos lotsa confusion on Sigma & Realtek based media player mah...So individual media players got their own unpinned threads & the General all -in one discussion between the current 2 major media players chipset mfg pinned lor...

OK Will unpinned soon since lotsa complian..haha
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So to pin or not now? haizzz...so siennnnn
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just pin lor.. u taiko mah..
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Wokayy..more wanting to pin now...Not taiko here..Every Mod also can mod here wan dunno why..haha
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Might as well pin this instead:

"REALTEK - NO BD-J and NO HD AUDIO"

Simple, short and sweet.

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Sorry it's comparison thread not bambu another chipset thread..haha
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Ok, then what about this:

REALTEK - RMVB
SIGMA - BD-J + HD AUDIO

Fair enough?
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Too long dy...Anyway that's gooding summary liao...
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Ok, then what about this:

REALTEK - RMVB
SIGMA - BD-J + HD AUDIO

Fair enough?
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quite misleading also.. after people buy used WDTV V1 which has sigma chip, and expect BDJ how? biggrin.gif
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Oh crap. Maybe should add the important words "HIGH END" in front of REALTEK and SIGMA. Can? laugh.gif
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kennot.. what;'s a high end realtek?
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Current highest end Realtek loh...1073. tongue.gif
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dunno.. never tried music files on my players.. tongue.gif
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Walao eh..realtek 1073 no 5.1 channel compare to 1283? haizzzz sure boh? How come my 1073 still can hear surround wan ..haha
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Walao eh..realtek 1073 no 5.1 channel compare to 1283? haizzzz sure boh? How come my 1073 still can hear surround wan ..haha
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You hear surround using the optical out or the HDMI? Do u use an AVR?

What the chart means is it cannot decode 5.1 in the player but I believe it can send out the raw spdif thru optical....
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which other realtek player using 1283? i only know Dvico 6600.. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jan 20 2010, 10:51 PM)
ar188: does any of these chipset plays wma lossless?
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got wma lossless er... i only know FLAC..now feeling noob... blush.gif

QUOTE(ar188 @ Jan 20 2010, 10:55 PM)
dunno.. never tried music files on my players.. tongue.gif
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OT: Listening with Bose must sound nice... tongue.gif

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Dolby lossless and DTS HD are marked as capable for both chipsets... rolleyes.gif
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Then it would be like buying a GT-R but the engine is limited 100bhp with 3 gears disabled because Nissan decided not to pay Getrag licensing fees. laugh.gif
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To add to realtek misery..POHD has witdrwan Toutube from the internet feed..haizzz...also another licensing issue
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Then it would be like buying a GT-R but the engine is limited 100bhp with 3 gears disabled because Nissan decided not to pay Getrag licensing fees. laugh.gif
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getrag gearbox controls engine power to 100HP? hmm.gif
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our own lowyat forummer k8118k damn geng , topic starter for Rtd1073 vs rtd1283 vs sigma8635 at MPC Club

maybe he should be here to enlighten us all
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Link pls...
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here we go....

http://www.mpcclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21464
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Tnx updated on 1st page..
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QUOTE(stimix @ Jan 21 2010, 04:59 PM)
Tnx updated on 1st page..
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Thanks for taking the trouble and initiative to update the 1st post, thus making this thread useful and informative.
Unfortunately I'm even more confuse and that after I visited Sim Lim to tested a few media players. Met a few Singaporeans there also, they are of the opinion of holding off purchasing new/replacement players till July. It seems these media player race is going to intensify.
Mainland China gomen of shutting down dl sites also can't stem the intensity. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(sunnyK @ Jan 21 2010, 04:01 PM)
our own lowyat forummer k8118k damn geng , topic starter for Rtd1073 vs rtd1283 vs sigma8635 at MPC Club

maybe he should be here to enlighten us all
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I don't see anything else to be enlightened.. I tot he just posted what was on the net already..


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luckily you enlightened me or else i might believe he's already a buddha
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And all those information posted by him are just saying it. Anyone can say anything. No proof or anything also.
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its still a good try ,and on second thought , he might just bought our beloved malaysia some fame and glory by rubbing shoulders with Mr Hi -Jack ,the greatest media player reviewer of all time

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liddat also can ar? hahaha!
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jan 21 2010, 09:06 PM)
aiks.. rub what next??
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Hmnn those using media players also gay now..so must switch to BD player now kah..To avoid been gay?
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sigma is for macho
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QUOTE(echoesian @ Dec 19 2009, 11:18 AM)
Translated from chinese to english:

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y...history_state0=

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Added by stimix: (More explanation on the differences from other sources)
Extracted From: http://www.mpcclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21464
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lol this my post..................
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source info quite old . Realtek 1073 software getting better ~ SDK V1.. now V3 already
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Guys,

Don't have times to do a complete write up so I will summarize the results u can see in the attachment. As promised, I checked from a processing point of view if there are any alterations when the media player is sent test patterns in terms of calibration.

The reference files are as they are named and a reference. They were from a PS3 using AVSHD709 test patterns (meter :EyeOne Pro)

The Sigma (8655 chipset) files are results obtained thru a media player that uses the Sigma chipset also using the AVSHD709 test patterns.

Greyscale:
No major differences. The brightness and contrast are essentially unchanged. The sharpness is neutral no additional sharpening added by the processor.
Good results

Gamut (Flagged)
On flagged HD content, there are no differences. Good results.

Gamut (Unflagged)
On any HD content that is not flagged as HD, major problems. All colours, hue, saturation and luminance are clearly out. This is a problem only if the media u are playing is unflagged. So if u suddenly run a video, that has very bright greens, cyans and the reds look weird, it means the content was unflagged and the chipset used the wrong colourspace to do the conversion. HD shd be decoded in Rec709 but the Sigma chipset seems to use Rec601 and still mess up the stuff.

Moral of the story:
If u r using a Sigma chipset media player, u're in good shape if ur content is flagged correctly. Else there might be some problems. The plus is that if it is correctly flagged, it is not altering the picture in any way that is bad. This has been a problem even with older Sigma chipset, they just never fixed it.

I will write more when I have the time and if there are questions.

If someone loans me a Realtek chipset media player I will do the same.

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Attached File  ReferenceGreyscale.pdf ( 120.52k ) Number of downloads: 78
Attached File  SigmaGreyscale.pdf ( 118.49k ) Number of downloads: 57
Attached File  ReferenceGamut.pdf ( 119.23k ) Number of downloads: 32
Attached File  SigmaGamutFlagged.pdf ( 117.66k ) Number of downloads: 32
Attached File  SigmaGamutUnflagged.pdf ( 126.21k ) Number of downloads: 46
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Bro Anfield, mind tell us which media player for that Sigma?
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Bro Anfield, mind tell us which media player for that Sigma?
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Sigma 8655 WDTV Live.

However, the same results can be obtained using any Sigma chipset, old or new. I tested the older ones before. Same results.

HD flagging is important else u will have colour decoding errors.

However, when flagged correctly the Sigma does everything else very well.


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Bro Anfield, wait for the elites to get their BD1...then can test again with newer-gen Sigma chipset. thumbup.gif
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Bro Anfield, wait for the elites to get their BD1...then can test again with newer-gen Sigma chipset. thumbup.gif
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More than willing to do this, if someone is willing to send me the different chipsets for checking.
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More than willing to do this, if someone is willing to send me the different chipsets for checking.
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How long for you to do that checking??

MAybe I can help you on the devices....Xtreamer and HDX BD-1.
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How long for you to do that checking??

MAybe I can help you on the devices....Xtreamer and HDX BD-1.
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It takes me only a couple of hours to do the testing on each media player.

So one day turnaround time if we arrange correctly shd be no problem. Of course, keep in mind that I am in Penang.
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if good results get if free or not? Hahaha
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if good results get if free or not? Hahaha
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Anfiel...

HD Flagged
IIRC u did mention quite long time ago that SMP8635 WDTV do messed up the color space even when the content was HD flagged... n not on the SMP8635 DVico..

or was the prob corrected by the later firmware...
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Anfiel...

HD Flagged
IIRC u did mention quite long time ago that SMP8635 WDTV do messed up the color space even when the content was HD flagged... n not on the SMP8635 DVico..

or was the prob corrected by the later firmware...
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The older sigma chips were the same, unflagged, colour space errors, flagged - perfect.
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Jan 26 2010, 09:51 AM)
The older sigma chips were the same, unflagged, colour space errors, flagged - perfect.
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icic ... thanks.. biggrin.gif
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Just compare the BD1 PQ with the Realtek HD300A & really can see the difference.
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QUOTE(adamw @ Jan 27 2010, 11:50 AM)
Just compare the BD1 PQ with the Realtek HD300A & really can see the difference.
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already mention many times, but realtek sellers don't accept it.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jan 27 2010, 12:10 PM)
already mention many times, but realtek sellers don't accept it..  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(adamw @ Jan 27 2010, 12:55 PM)
Hey! Not all Realtek sellers, please!
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maybe those realtek sellers who don't sell sigma or never used sigma?
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they afraid their realtek stocks keep on collecting dust... tongue.gif


Added on January 27, 2010, 7:23 pm
QUOTE(adamw @ Jan 27 2010, 11:50 AM)
Just compare the BD1 PQ with the Realtek HD300A & really can see the difference.
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got BD1 oredy meh?

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yeah adam got his liao..

our importer need to pick up speed!!
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jan 27 2010, 08:03 PM)
yeah adam got his liao..

our importer need to pick up speed!!
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Yeah, now thinking of continuing with the BULK but must check with HDX 1st whether they still have stock. I kena poison myself, earlier when trying BDISO was thinking of selling off all the units. But after a forum member told me that BDMV also have full menu, I converted the ISO back to BDMV folders & everything perfect!No more lagging or audio problem~ rclxms.gif
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what!?? same sh1t with 6500 and sigma? need to convert to BDMV only can play smoothly?
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o'o...problemo... rclxub.gif

at least got menu... now how baked is this BD1..?
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QUOTE(zerorulez @ Jan 29 2010, 03:01 AM)
o'o...problemo... rclxub.gif

at least got menu... now how baked is this BD1..?
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Yep, main important thing is got Menu. Only around 15mins to extract back to BDMV so no big deal.
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jan 27 2010, 08:03 PM)
yeah adam got his liao..

our importer need to pick up speed!!
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I must chase the Official Distributor to send to me 55...... biggrin.gif

Everything is in order...... icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(adamw @ Jan 29 2010, 11:57 AM)
Yep, main important thing is got Menu. Only around 15mins to extract back to BDMV so no big deal.
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mine was alwiz 20-30 min so n so...... sad.gif
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QUOTE(zerorulez @ Jan 30 2010, 08:32 AM)
mine was alwiz 20-30 min so n so...... sad.gif
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i've tried both... powerISO (extract method) and virtualclone (mount n copy).. n virtualclone seem to be little bit faster...passing 20min marks.. both method done to another HDD..

ur computer more powerful... am only on AMD... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(zerorulez @ Jan 31 2010, 12:32 AM)
i've tried both... powerISO (extract method) and virtualclone (mount n copy).. n virtualclone seem to be little bit faster...passing 20min marks..  both method done to another HDD..

ur computer more powerful... am only on AMD... biggrin.gif
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Any batch convert? ISO to BDMV? new firmware still did not solved the BDISO problem.

New firmware 4.9 solved the stuttering issue on BDISO. rclxms.gif


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Not sure to get popcorn A200 (USD 179 + USD 25 shipping) or HDX BD-1? Any advantage compare both players? I fed up with Xtreamer until ver 2.1.3 still no HD bitstreaming. PQ wise compare to HTPC using i5 + HD 5770, I feel realtek had less image noise.
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QUOTE(pierreye @ Feb 5 2010, 07:38 PM)
Not sure to get popcorn A200 (USD 179 + USD 25 shipping) or HDX BD-1? Any advantage compare both players? I fed up with Xtreamer until ver 2.1.3 still no HD bitstreaming. PQ wise compare to HTPC using i5 + HD 5770, I feel realtek had less image noise.
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Then you should try out the HDX BD1 PQ, it'll blow you away if you try BDMV. Anyway, only if you need BDMV with Menu then go for the BD1. If just MKV any Sigma with Syabas firmware would do.
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I need to bitstream HD audio from m2ts and ts. I don't really care for BDMV with menu. So far, I see the current stage is A-200 can't bitstream from m2ts while BD1 had problem with network share. In pass history, who had the better firmware, popcorn or HDX? I know popcorn new generation is coming with flash menu which should give some sizzle to the layout. How about BD1?
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quick question....i need another media player. should i get wdtv live or acryan mini. only for my dts mkv. no fancy stuff. thanks.
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QUOTE(arremie @ Feb 7 2010, 01:00 AM)
quick question....i need another media player. should i get wdtv live or acryan mini. only for my dts mkv. no fancy stuff. thanks.
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If your TV is 1080p go for WDTV cos Sigma PQ is better especially on 1080p.


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QUOTE(pierreye @ Feb 6 2010, 08:54 PM)
I need to bitstream HD audio from m2ts and ts. I don't really care for BDMV with menu. So far, I see the current stage is A-200 can't bitstream from m2ts while BD1 had problem with network share. In pass history, who had the better firmware, popcorn or HDX? I know popcorn new generation is coming with flash menu which should give some sizzle to the layout. How about BD1?
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Can you be more precise? Do you need to stream from Network or just bitstream HD audio on m2ts & ts locally on the player?

As for firmware, currently HDX seems to be good, almost weekly. As for past history, you cannot judged them because they depends on hand me outs from Syabas the Popcorn owner.

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QUOTE(adamw @ Feb 7 2010, 01:12 PM)
If your TV is 1080p go for WDTV cos Sigma PQ is better especially on 1080p.
tq. yeah my tv capable of that. anybody second that recommendation?
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this one gonna place upstairs or downstairs?

if u dun want to put internal HDD inside the player go for WDTV live..

u can read post #128 by anfieldude on his test on sigma based media player..

happy hunting... biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(zerorulez @ Feb 7 2010, 02:21 PM)
this one gonna place upstairs or downstairs?

if u dun want to put internal HDD inside the player go for WDTV live..

u can read post #128 by anfieldude on his test on sigma based media player..

happy hunting... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(zerorulez @ Feb 7 2010, 02:21 PM)
this one gonna place upstairs or downstairs?

if u dun want to put internal HDD inside the player go for WDTV live..

u can read post #128 by anfieldude on his test on sigma based media player..

happy hunting... biggrin.gif
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this one will put upstairs coz can downmix dts without avr. i dont need internal hdd. all my hdd external. that's why i narrow down to wdtv live or acryan mini. both about same price. the difference is only chipset. so u also think sigma chipset on wdtv live better than acryan realtek? malas nak baca post just need a quick opinion tongue.gif
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QUOTE(adamw @ Feb 7 2010, 03:41 PM)
Wonder if we can get commission from Western Digital?
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that wud be great... rclxms.gif

QUOTE(arremie @ Feb 7 2010, 06:02 PM)
this one will put upstairs coz can downmix dts without avr. i dont need internal hdd. all my hdd external. that's why i narrow down to wdtv live or acryan mini. both about same price. the difference is only chipset. so u also think sigma chipset on wdtv live better than acryan realtek? malas nak baca post just need a quick opinion tongue.gif
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i read it.. but only faham 50% jer..rclxub.gif

planning to connect the old WDTV to 6003 ? brows.gif

I go for sigma... never realtek fan.. biggrin.gif

OT: C.K is back on air... biggrin.gif

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cool. wdtv live it is then. old wdtv already downstairs connected to avr tongue.gif
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I did some reading regarding the chipsets and came across this article. It compares different generation of realtek and sigma chipsets and also what players are using them.

http://www.iboum.com/artkill/chipsets.php

After reading this I have no hesitation in getting wdtv live instead of acryan mini biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(arremie @ Feb 10 2010, 10:47 AM)
After reading this I have no hesitation in getting wdtv live instead of acryan mini biggrin.gif
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bro, get those Sigma chip players...Realtek is a bit fussy with 1080p mkv...trust me...I know..
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Anyone knows Apacer AL460 using what chipset? price is not expensive though

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QUOTE(ShenToN @ Feb 10 2010, 07:16 PM)
Anyone knows Apacer AL460 using what chipset?  price is not expensive though
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From the specs...looks like Realtek.

Realtek outnumber Sigma 10 to 1.

But it doesn't mean the more models means better...experience tells me Sigma is the way to go, unless you are playing RMVB formats
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QUOTE(azbro @ Feb 10 2010, 10:52 AM)
bro, get those Sigma chip players...Realtek is a bit fussy with 1080p mkv...trust me...I know..
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Then in order to play Real media files, get a separate Real media player?
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Jan 24 2010, 11:21 PM)
Guys,

Don't have times to do a complete write up so I will summarize the results u can see in the attachment. As promised, I checked from a processing point of view if there are any alterations when the media player is sent test patterns in terms of calibration.

The reference files are as they are named and a reference. They were from a PS3 using AVSHD709 test patterns (meter :EyeOne Pro)

The Sigma (8655 chipset) files are results obtained thru a media player that uses the Sigma chipset also using the AVSHD709 test patterns.

Greyscale:
No major differences. The brightness and contrast are essentially unchanged. The sharpness is neutral no additional sharpening added by the processor.
Good results

Gamut (Flagged)
On flagged HD content, there are no differences. Good results.

Gamut (Unflagged)
On any HD content that is not flagged as HD, major problems. All colours, hue, saturation and luminance are clearly out. This is a problem only if the media u are playing is unflagged. So if u suddenly run a video, that has very bright greens, cyans and the reds look weird, it means the content was unflagged and the chipset used the wrong colourspace to do the conversion. HD shd be decoded in Rec709 but the Sigma chipset seems to use Rec601 and still mess up the stuff.

Moral of the story:
If u r using a Sigma chipset media player, u're in good shape if ur content is flagged correctly. Else there might be some problems. The plus is that if it is correctly flagged, it is not altering the picture in any way that is bad. This has been a problem even with older Sigma chipset, they just never fixed it.

I will write more when I have the time and if there are questions.

If someone loans me a Realtek chipset media player I will do the same.
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Any test for Realtek 1073 ??


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QUOTE(arremie @ Feb 7 2010, 01:55 PM)
tq. yeah my tv capable of that. anybody second that recommendation?
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Is it really better? Is the difference significant? If yes I might probably consider to change to WDTV live

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QUOTE(echoesian @ Mar 15 2010, 12:02 PM)
Any test for Realtek 1073 ??


Added on March 15, 2010, 12:12 pm

Is it really better? Is the difference significant? If yes I might probably consider to change to WDTV live
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Someone needs to loan me a Realtek player for me to make the checks....
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click here....

Sigma vs Realtek revenue...

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acryan mini really cheap now only 415 at digital mall
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QUOTE(arremie @ Mar 15 2010, 11:47 PM)
acryan mini really cheap now only 415 at digital mall
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Guess all the old batch of realtek based players now have to reduce price since it's confirmed that it'll never ever be able to bitstream HD Audio.
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QUOTE(azbro @ Feb 10 2010, 10:52 AM)
bro, get those Sigma chip players...Realtek is a bit fussy with 1080p mkv...trust me...I know..
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How fussy is it? but I'm able to play >15 mb bit rate mkv movies without any problem wor....
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that is because u haven't encounter one yet whistling.gif
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QUOTE(echoesian @ Mar 17 2010, 03:36 PM)
How fussy is it? but I'm able to play >15 mb bit rate mkv movies without any problem wor....
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Can you find a Transformer 1 1080p movie that can play (without remux) smoothly?
How abt Deep Impact 1080p -DON?
There are a few titles more like Blu Elements - Forsenses, Vertical Limit etc

But as long as you remux it, it should be able to play.

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QUOTE(azbro @ Mar 18 2010, 02:14 PM)
Can you find a Transformer 1 1080p movie that can play (without remux) smoothly?
How abt Deep Impact 1080p -DON?
There are a few titles more like Blu Elements - Forsenses, Vertical Limit etc

But as long as you remux it, it should be able to play.
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I finish watching 2012 mkv. The rate is 1536kbps. The fie size is 16GB 1080p movie. Watching using HDPro. No problem, no jerk no issue. Sound is a DTS 5.1


I have not played anything more than 16G/movie yet. And 1536kbps is the highest I've seen so far.

In the same time, I let my notebook streaming the same movie. No jerk on my notebook too. But I didnt pay attention to my notebook much ha ha ha.
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QUOTE(tracktion3 @ Mar 18 2010, 04:18 PM)
I finish watching 2012 mkv. The rate is 1536kbps. The fie size is 16GB 1080p movie. Watching using HDPro. No problem, no jerk no issue. Sound is a DTS 5.1
I have not played anything more than 16G/movie yet. And 1536kbps is the highest I've seen so far.

In the same time, I let my notebook streaming the same movie. No jerk on my notebook too. But I didnt pay attention to my notebook much ha ha ha.
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Even my old Sigma player can play 2012 at that bit rates, but I'm talking abt specific movies that I mention...have you tried any Transformer 1 movie yet? And why your bitrate so little one? only 1536kbps?...that is for the DTS bro....your 2012 is average 12.1~13.7Mb/s icon_rolleyes.gif
The AVC version is 31.95 Mbps.

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QUOTE(azbro @ Mar 18 2010, 05:13 PM)
Even my old Sigma player can play 2012 at that bit rates, but I'm talking abt specific movies that I mention...have you tried any Transformer 1 movie yet? And why your bitrate so little one? only 1536kbps?...that is for the DTS bro....your 2012  is average 12.1~13.7Mb/s icon_rolleyes.gif
The AVC version is 31.95 Mbps.
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not sure why the bit rate is that low. the file is like 16G mkv. tongue.gif

anyway, I dont have transformers 1. I search and see how.


Added on March 18, 2010, 10:52 pmoh i just realized that the bit rate given is an audio bit rate. not the video. How do I check the video bit rate?


Added on March 18, 2010, 11:04 pmu r right azbro, just check the doc comes with it. is around 12+mb/s.

wow, where can find 31+ mb/s AVC version.. gulp....


Added on March 18, 2010, 11:07 pmfound them on the net. crazy large file. 37GB... tongue.gif

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new WDTV live sold in LYP use what sigma proc ?? 86XX??
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new WDTV live sold in LYP use what sigma proc ?? 86XX??
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Sigma 8655
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http://www.iboum.com/artkill/chipsets.php

HD Media Player Chipsets
This page gives some technical background to the history of Media Player chipsets and lists the key players associated with each.

The first chipset to be capable of decoding 1080p full-HD video was the 863x from a company called Sigma Designs. The Sigma 863x spawned a whole series of Media Players from early 2008 onwards. It was these players that kick-started the Media Player revolution. Manufacturers released machines with modified versions of the original Sigma firmware, so the Sigma 863x machines are not identical. There are differences in all areas, from user interface to marginal decoding performance. The Sigma 863x is clocked at 300Mhz.


Sigma 8634, 8635
CPU Mhz: 300mhz
Sigma 863x
Media Players

The Sigma 863x has now been superseded by newer chipsets, aimed squarely at the growing Media Player market. Limitations of the Sigma 8635 such as slow user interface, limited DTS support, and just general lack of power have been addressed in a new generation of chips released in 2009.

The Realtek 1283 / 1073 chipset range appeared in mid 2009 and is clocked between the old Sigma 863x and the newer Sigma 864x/865x. The Realteks use one CPU, clocked at 400mhz. A flood of cheap Realtek based Media Players arrived through 2009. The 1073 is the same as the 1283 with some DTV functions stripped out, they are otherwise exactly the same chip providing the same performance in a Media Player. The only hardware performance difference amongst the Realteks is that the Xtreamer is clocked at 450mhz rather than 400mhz.

There are Realtek 1073DA and 1073DD variations, with the DA version being an early release that is unable to downmix DTS. The DA variation is becoming increasingly common among the cheaper players. We now differentiate between the two versions in our detailed specifications and comparison table.

The Realtek chipsets provide fast and reliable performance at a low cost. These players can cope with all Media files you are likely to come across with only abnormally high reframe files or some HD audio formats providing any problems. It was revealed in February 2010 that neither the 1073DA, 1073DD, or the 1283 can passthrough (bitstream) Dolby TrueHD or DTS-HD MA. This is a hardware issue and is unlikely to ever be resolved. For most people this is insignificant but if full bitstreaming of these formats is important then we advise avoiding the Realtek chip.


Realtek 1073DA, 1073DD, 1283
CPU Mhz: 400/450mhz
Realtek 1073/1283
Media Players

Sigma released both Sigma 864x series and Sigma 865x series chipsets in late 2009, with the first player featuring the 8643 (Popcorn Hour C-200) shipping in September 2009, and the first 8655 players (WDTV Live / Eminent EM7075) arriving in October 2009. The Sigma 864x and the 865x are related and similar chips with the 864x being the more powerful.


The Sigma 864x contains a 667mhz CPU, a 333mhz IPU (image processing unit), 2* HD video decoding, and three 333mhz Audio DSPs. The 8643 and 8642 are identical except that the 8642 is a Macrovision version allowing for the ability to play copy protected DVD / Blu-Ray.


Sigma 8642, 8643
CPU Mhz: 667mhz
Sigma 864x
Media Players

The Sigma 865x uses a 500mhz CPU, a 333mhz IPU, 1.25x HD video decoding, and one 333mhz Audio DSP. All the 865x variations are similar, with the 8655 being marginally the most powerful. The 8655 uses 64bit RAM whereas the 8653 uses 32bit and the 8655 has six video DACs whereas the 8653 has four. The only benchmarks we could find give identical scores so real world performance is likely near identical. The 8654 and 8652 are copy protection (Macrovision) enabled versions of each allowing for the ability to play copy protected DVD / Blu-Ray.


Sigma 8652, 8653, 8654 8655
CPU Mhz: 500mhz
Sigma 865x
Media Players

One notable deficiency in all the Sigma chips is the inability to play RMVB files.

In 2010 Intel is expected to release it's own new media processor, the 800 MHz Intel CE3100. This chip promises to take everything one stage further towards a single integrated home entertainment hub with computer functions. In some ways it is really just a Pentium M rebadged. It will be interesting to see how this chip compares (including for price) when devices are released utilising it such as the Conceptronic Yuixx.

Other chipsets that we've come across but have little information on are the Amlogic Apollo and MStar D7M26L. When we get more info it will be added to this page.

2009 saw many Media Player chipset developments. The Sigma 863x is now a relic of the past, with more powerful and cheaper chips being available from both Realtek and Sigma. These new chips are both capable of playing flawlessly almost any file you will find in the wild. In this sense, the choice of which chipset you choose has become slightly irrelevant. Of more concern should be the usability of the device and it's price. In the near future we would expect the range of HD formats being used to become much more narrow, largely negating the format issue.

User interface, on-demand content, and additional web-based services will become much more important to the bulk of users.

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just got myself acryan instead of wdtv live. cant resist the low price of 500 (last time i ask it was 650). acryan mini quoted at 410 and wdtv live i think about 450 or 460 cant recall correctly.

with all the fuss regarding sigma better pq than realtek...well im not against that but heck realtek pq not as bad as i thought. anyway the most important thing is i can now view all the 1080p mkv without any prob and dts stereo downmix works perfectly. dont care much about other functions or format. as long as what i wanted works, im as happy as a rat. not to mention better look and remote than wdtv live. cheers cheers.gif
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QUOTE(arremie @ Mar 29 2010, 01:47 AM)
just got myself acryan instead of wdtv live. cant resist the low price of 500 (last time i ask it was 650). acryan mini quoted at 410 and wdtv live i think about 450 or 460 cant recall correctly.

with all the fuss regarding sigma better pq than realtek...well im not against that but heck realtek pq not as bad as i thought. anyway the most important thing is i can now view all the 1080p mkv without any prob and dts stereo downmix works perfectly. dont care much about other functions or format. as long as what i wanted works, im as happy as a rat. not to mention better look and remote than wdtv live. cheers cheers.gif
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How's the PQ quality as many claim that it is mediocre compare to WDTV Live?
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QUOTE(echoesian @ Mar 29 2010, 11:22 AM)
How's the PQ quality as many claim that it is mediocre compare to WDTV Live?
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People claim that RTK PQ is mediocre compared to Sigma? Really that bad?
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post Mar 31 2010, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(echoesian @ Mar 29 2010, 11:22 AM)
How's the PQ quality as many claim that it is mediocre compare to WDTV Live?
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Mar 29 2010, 12:57 PM)
People claim that RTK PQ is mediocre compared to Sigma? Really that bad?
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i used to be worried about that but to be honest pohd pq is very nice. there maybe superiority of sigma over realtek but i think u have to really look for it to spot the difference. so far im really satidfied with pohd (realtek). nothing to complaint about.
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QUOTE(arremie @ Mar 31 2010, 02:08 PM)
i used to be worried about that but to be honest pohd pq is very nice. there maybe superiority of sigma over realtek but i think u have to really look for it to spot the difference. so far im really satidfied with pohd (realtek). nothing to complaint about.
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post Apr 2 2010, 01:18 AM

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post Apr 2 2010, 02:43 AM

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post Apr 2 2010, 09:10 AM

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Apparently, the latest firmware update by WD fixed the unflagged content colour decoding error on the WD Sigma based media players. I think Sigma released a new SDK to finally fix this problem. I will test it when I get the chance, but thats progress in the right direction in my opinion.

Edit : I have confirmed that the latest firmware has fixed the colour decoding error when content is not flagged.

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post Apr 19 2010, 03:50 PM

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i am still looking for a media player that suits my needs.
After going thro' many forums, I am still confused. rclxub.gif
But I have narrowed it down to sigma based players only because of Dolby TrueHD audio or lack there off in RTLK based players.
Please offer any advise or opinion that might help me select.
My prioties are
1) HD video 720P/1080P resolution
2) HD audio viz dts-HDMA and Dolby TrueHD via HDMI to avr. thumbup.gif
3) BDMV/BDremux file playback
4) No streaming or wireless networking required, HDD connected directly to the player. Not savvy enuf to set it up. wub.gif
5) 7.1 surround HT playback if possible as a bonus.

Thank you all!
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post Apr 19 2010, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(klimal @ Apr 19 2010, 03:50 PM)
i am still looking for a media player that suits my needs.
After going thro' many forums, I am still confused. rclxub.gif
But I have narrowed it down to sigma based players only because of Dolby TrueHD audio or lack there off in RTLK based players.
Please offer any advise or opinion that might help me select.
My prioties are
1) HD video 720P/1080P resolution
2) HD audio viz dts-HDMA and Dolby TrueHD via HDMI to avr. thumbup.gif 
3) BDMV/BDremux file playback
4) No streaming or wireless networking required, HDD connected directly to the player. Not savvy enuf to set it up. wub.gif
5) 7.1 surround HT playback if possible as a bonus.

Thank you all!
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I have same requirements as yours and currently I am waiting for HDX BD1's firmware to be stable.

As the temporary measure, I bought a second hand WDTV Gen 1 for normal playback. Quality is not bad for the RM1xx price.

Maybe you could be interested in one of these... if you have more budget.
- HDX BD1
- Popcorn Hour C-200
- Dune BD Prime 3.0

The reviews section of this website is cool
[http://www.mpcclub.com/]
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Can you find a Transformer 1 1080p movie that can play (without remux) smoothly?
How abt Deep Impact 1080p -DON?
There are a few titles more like Blu Elements - Forsenses, Vertical Limit etc

But as long as you remux it, it should be able to play.
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tested on frenz's HD Pro, pixelized occurred on Transformer1
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post Apr 22 2010, 08:36 AM

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QUOTE(Heihachi777 @ Apr 21 2010, 07:29 AM)
tested on frenz's HD Pro, pixelized occurred on Transformer1
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For Transformer 1....99% media players out there got pixelization...the encoders screw up the movie by doing dunno how many reframe rates.

Most of the time, you just need to remux it.
Try
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Should do the trick
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Remux = ?
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QUOTE(azbro @ Apr 22 2010, 08:36 AM)
For Transformer 1....99% media players out there got pixelization...the encoders screw up the movie by doing dunno how many reframe rates.

Most of the time, you just need to remux it.
Try
http://haali.su/mkv/
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http://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolni...vmerge-gui.html

Should do the trick
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I have 720p (deleted), 1080p, and BDISO versions of transformers 1... but both WDTVLIVe and BD1 all played fine and did not notice any pixellated issues - the so called pixellated means we will see distorted areas filling with square boxes with colors is that it? rclxub.gif
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Any review news on Xtreamer Pro? Another times xyz@#$?
May be just settle for HDX-BD1..... rclxub.gif Price is dropping a bit now....


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Hi guys, I'm newbie here biggrin.gif
Right now, I've 42" full HD LCDTV and many Japanesse anime collections with SD quality.
So the questions is what NMT (chipset) should I choose best for upscaling SD quality movies into 42" full HD LCD without showing too much artifact? icon_question.gif
My guess is all NMTs with Sigma Design chipset inside it, but stiil I need confirmation from who had experienced it. icon_idea.gif
Regards

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Hi guys,

I gotta question too. I just got my Popcorn Hour NMT yesterday. Love the speedy open-sourced interface.

After some testing, I got shocked that my unit is capable to play some RMVB files!

Can it be considered as a bug? tongue.gif .... AFAIK, Sigmas dont play RMVB hmm.gif
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I think Realtek PQ is better than the Sigma, but if you want the advance HD player, I think Sigma is the only one here, at least Sigma is a proper HD chipset for audio visual. Realtek, is also consider HD chipset, just the HD audio is the down side, can't even support a single HD format.
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I am using right now Realtek AC97 audio driver package 4.06, It is very nice software, I had before her previous version, It was also nice to work on my PC,
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Erhmm... I think the thread is about HD Media Player's processor. What you mention is more towards audio manager sw.
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can anybody list out prices of these media players....
need to buy after doing some research..thanks
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Guys, I got a question...

The new Xtreamer is now comes with Sidewinder heatsinks and without fan. How do I know if the chipset inside is RTD1283 DD+ ?
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QUOTE(hosiery2u @ May 10 2010, 10:23 AM)
I think Realtek PQ is better than the Sigma, but if you want the advance HD player, I think Sigma is the only one here, at least Sigma is a proper HD chipset for audio visual. Realtek, is also consider HD chipset, just the HD audio is the down side, can't even support a single HD format.
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it's the other way around.. Sigma gives better PQ especially for BD iso/H264.. realtek got HD 720p rmvb..
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jul 19 2010, 10:50 PM)
it's the other way around.. Sigma gives better PQ especially for BD iso/H264..  realtek got HD 720p rmvb..
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Yeah after tested some Sigma 8655 and 8643 based player, I can feel the image is much more sharper than the realtek...but one thing I sit quite close to the 42" TV la...
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QUOTE(echoesian @ Aug 5 2010, 01:19 AM)
Yeah after tested some Sigma 8655 and 8643 based player, I can feel the image is much more sharper than the realtek...but one thing I sit quite close to the 42" TV la...
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Finally had the chance to test a Realtek based media player.

Things to note, I found that the media player clipped both black and white. On this particular media player, there was no choice to change colour space, so no way to see if it can be fixed. There was no colour decoding error that was the positive part (but this is if u do not touch the internal settings). Unfortunately, there is some sharpening out of the box, even if u turn the sharpness on the display all the way down.

Because of the clipping the peak whites cannot hit as high as the display would allow. Another negative point, was that the image was shifted by about 2 pixels bottom and left. I did not know if there was a hidden feature to shift the image. So, if ur display does not have a way to shift, u will lose some info

There are differences between the Sigma and the Realtek chipset. Until I see the new RTK chip, I cannot conclude if these bugs have been fixed.
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Sep 13 2010, 09:35 PM)
Finally had the chance to test a Realtek based media player.

Things to note, I found that the media player clipped both black and white. On this particular media player, there was no choice to change colour space, so no way to see if it can be fixed. There was no colour decoding error that was the positive part (but this is if u do not touch the internal settings). Unfortunately, there is some sharpening out of the box, even if u turn the sharpness on the display all the way down.

Because of the clipping the peak whites cannot hit as high as the display would allow. Another negative point, was that the image was shifted by about 2 pixels bottom and left. I did not know if there was a hidden feature to shift the image. So, if ur display does not have a way to shift, u will lose some info

There are differences between the Sigma and the Realtek chipset. Until I see the new RTK chip, I cannot conclude if these bugs have been fixed.
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why not mention the name of players you're testing?
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Sep 13 2010, 09:35 PM)
Finally had the chance to test a Realtek based media player.

Things to note, I found that the media player clipped both black and white. On this particular media player, there was no choice to change colour space, so no way to see if it can be fixed. There was no colour decoding error that was the positive part (but this is if u do not touch the internal settings). Unfortunately, there is some sharpening out of the box, even if u turn the sharpness on the display all the way down.

Because of the clipping the peak whites cannot hit as high as the display would allow. Another negative point, was that the image was shifted by about 2 pixels bottom and left. I did not know if there was a hidden feature to shift the image. So, if ur display does not have a way to shift, u will lose some info

There are differences between the Sigma and the Realtek chipset. Until I see the new RTK chip, I cannot conclude if these bugs have been fixed.
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I'm not that technical but I hope I understand that what you meant by the white clipping. I've experiencing a "shadowy" white color in my POHD when watching scenes that have a very bright highlights e.g clouds, the white color is not pure white but instead very blur type...
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thanks for the info, bro anfield. very informative indeed.
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why not mention the name of players you're testing?
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It was the HD Media Pro.
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QUOTE(echoesian @ Sep 13 2010, 10:28 PM)
I'm not that technical but I hope I understand that what you meant by the white clipping. I've experiencing a "shadowy" white color in my POHD when watching scenes that have a very bright highlights e.g clouds, the white color is not pure white but instead very blur type...
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In extremely bright white scenes or colour scenes, if the player clips before digital level 235, u will lose details. U can reduce this effect by proper calibration, and there is some evidence that there is content that seems to go at least until digital level 240. Of course, clipping can happen anywhere in the display chain, but in this case I'm sure its the media player as the display had no clipping tilldigital level 252.
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hi guys, which media player got built in compartment for 3.5" hdd, and can drag and drop files over the network...acer rv100 got built in compartment, but according to the users, cannot drag and drop files over network like a NAS...it is using realtek chipset...


Added on October 3, 2010, 8:23 pmbtw, i wan the player to look nice also

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post Oct 14 2010, 08:37 PM

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Just a heads up. The new RTK 1283+ chipset also does not pass BTB and WTW. There is heavy clipping of white before reference white 235. It starts to cut off at 232. Also there is additional EE/Sharpening on the RTK. Still undefeatable. However, the sharpening/EE is not as bad as the older chip.

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post Nov 2 2010, 12:45 AM

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bro i have no idea what u talked about. guess ur communication level way advanced for me to understand.
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QUOTE(arremie @ Nov 2 2010, 12:45 AM)
bro i have no idea what u talked about. guess ur communication level way advanced for me to understand.
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arremie,

I will put it in simpler terms.

Film/Video is encoded at more or less fixed white and black levels. Video reference black is at digital level 16. Reference white is at digital level 235. Proper displays should show all details from 17 - 234. Means that the display should be capable of showing all encoded levels. What you do not want is clipping of levels anywhere in ur chain.

In this case, the RTK chipset, clips white information at above 232. This means for bright scenes u will see less details in RTK chipsets.

BTB - blacker than black (below 16) , WTW - whiter than white (above 235). This is considered headroom area for video. If the display chain has headroom, u can use brightness and contrast to adjust ur levels correctly, else its a stab in the dark as to where to set brightness and contrast.

Sharpness. HD shd not need any more sharpening, what u want is for the player to reproduce details without artifacts. RTK chipsets has additional sharpening that can manifest itself as artefacts and could actually obscure fine detail while seemingly sharp (fake).
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Understood. Does this mean Sigma doesn't has this problem?
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Understood. Does this mean Sigma doesn't has this problem?
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Correct, Sigma does not have this problem. Sigmas problems were colour decoding errors when not properly flagged. However, with the release of Sigma SDK 2.0, this problem was fixed. WDTV Live last firmware update in April fixed this problem and so did Dune in their latest beta. I am not sure of the rest.
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guys, can these player stream files over network? Any performance issues for mkv files with high bitrate?
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Nov 2 2010, 07:28 AM)

Sharpness. HD shd not need any more sharpening, what u want is for the player to reproduce details without artifacts. RTK chipsets has additional sharpening that can manifest itself as artefacts and could actually obscure fine detail while seemingly sharp (fake).
From my understanding of taking digital photos with digital cameras. More detail and sharpness are not necessary the same thing. With more details, you can zoom the picture up and you can still see the details. With sharpness, not necessarily so and in fact for some, when you zoom up, the picture quality deteriorates very fast.

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Nov 14 2010, 05:58 AM)
From my understanding of taking digital photos with digital cameras. More detail and sharpness are not necessary the same thing. With more details, you can zoom the picture up and you can still see the details. With sharpness, not necessarily so and in fact for some, when you zoom up, the picture quality deteriorates very fast.

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U r exactly right. If the display and the source player can correctly resolve an 1080p signal, then the details is preserved. However, if there is artificial sharpening, fine detail can be obscured by artifacts that are detrimental to pq.
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Nov 2 2010, 04:18 AM)
Correct, Sigma does not have this problem. Sigmas problems were colour decoding errors when not properly flagged. However, with the release of Sigma SDK 2.0, this problem was fixed. WDTV Live last firmware update in April fixed this problem and so did Dune in their latest beta. I am not sure of the rest.
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Anfieldude let me ask you something. As I am in the market for a player is what you described as noticible? Because price point is very important to me as a consumer. I also did a little research on iboum's website and I found that Realtek is coming out with new chips. Supposedly these are better?
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QUOTE(eTerNiTyw2o4 @ Nov 17 2010, 05:38 PM)
Anfieldude let me ask you something. As I am in the market for a player is what you described as noticible? Because price point is very important to me as a consumer. I also did a little research on iboum's website and I found that Realtek is coming out with new chips. Supposedly these are better?
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Do u mean the additional sharpening and the inability to pass BTB and WTW?

If ur screen is big enuf and more importantly if u r a person who is picky,yes, else to 99% of the population-no!
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Nov 17 2010, 02:38 AM)
Do u mean the additional sharpening and the inability to pass BTB and WTW?

If ur screen is big enuf and more importantly if u r a person who is picky,yes, else to 99% of the population-no!
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Yes to the sharpening and the inability to pass BTB and WTW. What I'm asking is it a very big difference on my 52" or is it a really small difference that I can't tell unless I really focus on it?
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QUOTE(eTerNiTyw2o4 @ Nov 19 2010, 06:01 PM)
Yes to the sharpening and the inability to pass BTB and WTW. What I'm asking is it a very big difference on my 52" or is it a really small difference that I can't tell unless I really focus on it?
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Inability to pass BTB and WTW just makes it difficult to set the brightness and contrast correctly. Crushing whites u might notice when u see bright images seeming to lose details. The sharpening, I doubt, depending on ur seating distance, u might even like it.
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Normal 720P video, i think the RTK chipsets is just doing fine, but when talk about the full HD 1080P, then the Sigma will be the only recommended chipsets for me. RTK just won't do the job nicely, you see see it through PQ!
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can anyone recommend me a media player? i've read this thread and dont understand more than half of it. budget of not more than rm500?


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QUOTE(-JC- @ Dec 10 2010, 10:00 PM)
can anyone recommend me a media player? i've read this thread and dont understand more than half of it. budget of not more than rm500?
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going to play rmvb? if yes, look for yangxi. rclxms.gif

if you don't need rmvb, just settle for a WDTV. icon_rolleyes.gif

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can anyone recommend me a media player? i've read this thread and dont understand more than half of it. budget of not more than rm500?
thanks! biggrin.gif
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if you don't need networking features, then check out AC Ryan POHD Essential. you can go to Digital Lifestyle Expo at KLCC where it is selling at $299

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f...0#entry34737325


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just a Realtek 1055 chipset (below RM250 can get). without lan.


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yesterday i went to KL and browse around the media player market in low yat, saw a lot of brands like Vbridge, Kwo, Phantom, Meio? But no HiMedia. Actually is there any media player today offers internet browser? I want to use it to surf some internet like reading thestar.com.my

Please help
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yesterday i went to KL and browse around the media player market in low yat, saw a lot of brands like Vbridge, Kwo, Phantom, Meio? But no HiMedia. Actually is there any media player today offers internet browser? I want to use it to surf some internet like reading thestar.com.my

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Try to go to Digital Mall PJ. Go to either Czone (Ah Boy) or AonePlus (Aven). Ask for the media player with Android 2.1 OS built in called 'HDX Bone'.

It can be used not only for surfing internet, but to check email, facebook, msn, download movie, stream movie, play 'Angry Bird'. IT can even do your Excel and Word document. Just like a PC.
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Last 2 weeks, I went to KLCC Pikom digital fair.. Notice that Western Digital launching a new HD media player.. I couln't remember the model.. but the size is about A.C.Ryan... With HDD slot and many extra features. The remote also come with many button.. I hope to heard more review about that and will buy this unit cause WD is the pioneer for Sigma chipset.. Currently im using A.C.Ryan and my sister using WD.. Notice that WD picture quality is much more better than Realtek...
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whats the cheapest sigma based player that can play HD sound and menu for bdmv or bdiso? have lan or wireless..if possible below RM500

kindly recommend...
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so the best Sigma chipset so far for media player is 8642/8643, is it? please correct me if I'm wrong......any new upcoming Sigma based media players?

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been going through this thread and some others...
so is there any player than can do truehd dtshd..? i.e. untouched bluray rip...NOT downmix...

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been going through this thread and some others...
so is there any player than can do truehd dtshd..? i.e. untouched bluray rip...NOT downmix...
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You can try out these few models which can bitstream/passthrough DTS HDMA and Dolby TrueHD: Xtreamer Sidewinder, Xtreamer Pro, iXtreamer, HDX BD1 and also Egreat R6B.
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You can try out these few models which can bitstream/passthrough DTS HDMA and Dolby TrueHD: Xtreamer Sidewinder, Xtreamer Pro, iXtreamer, HDX BD1 and also Egreat R6B.
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anyone can recommend a player that able to play quality until
mkv (1080), rmvb(1080), mp4 (1080), avi (1080).

I have a HD drama series at 1280 *720 and my current KWORLD M102 not able to play such at high resolution..

No need feature such as LAN, WIFI, storage.... An USB port can suport thumbdrive and hardisk will do.

Thanks.
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Since you do not need networking, you can buy any of the Realtek R1055 media players such as HDpro or Datage R1055 from RM199. Search the threads here for details but they function more or less the same, just the input and output ports and the appearance differ.
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Since you do not need networking, you can buy any of the Realtek R1055 media players such as HDpro or Datage R1055 from RM199. Search the threads here for details but they function more or less the same, just the input and output ports and the appearance differ.
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anyone can recommend a player that able to play quality until
mkv (1080), rmvb(1080), mp4 (1080), avi (1080).

I have a HD drama series at 1280 *720 and my current KWORLD M102 not able to play such at high resolution..

No need feature such as LAN, WIFI, storage.... An USB port can suport thumbdrive and hardisk will do.

Thanks.
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Try Egreat R6B. Saw it performance at local retail shop demo. I would say, satisfied with its price.
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Hi Guys,

I've been out of Media Players market for quite sometime.

I need to buy a 1073++ based player below RM250... with good and stable firmware as wedding present.

Any suggestion?


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anyone heard about KWORLD M200, how was it perform?
Found out it meet all my requirement.

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First really affordable Sigma Designs Media Player in Malaysia with Sigma 8643 Chipset

with Apps Market

Unlike other media players in the market, AsiaBox is a new product from Syabas Technology, the designers of award-winning PopCornHour full HD 1080p media players.

With the Apps market, new apps for your to access Internet content are always updated so that a personal computer is not needed.

Apps available currently include Youtube, cnet.tv, Khan Academy, Channels.com, Cowboy Classics, Facebook, Flickr, Gougou, Howcast, Livestation, mkini.tv, PhotoBucket, Picasa, Revision3, RE/MAX, Quiz Master, YUI Library, Big Star, SHOUTcast Radio, TED, TEXAS HOLD’EM, TinPot, Video Detective, WeatherBug, and last but not least AsiaLive VOD and Asia Live TV.

Review Here

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The YouTube app is different from that of other media players such as WD TV Live as you can view all available YouTube content.

With Asia Live VOD, you have access to PPLive library of over 8,600 movies and 2000+ of TV drama from all over the world. You have to see this box in action to appreciate it.

Get a free demo - email me at: asiabox.my@gmail.com or SMS 012-2773430

Now available in Kuala Lumpur, Petaling Jaya and Subang Jaya

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Is it using the same chipset as dune? What type of audio format does it support?

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Dune HD is using Sigma 8642. But there is no difference in the Sigma 864x series. http://www.networkedmediatank.com/showthread.php?tid=30395

There is a smoothness difference between Sigma 864x series and 865x series. 865x series is a bit lack.

A bigger difference should be between realtek and sigma. Sigma is better.

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QUOTE(vchong8 @ Mar 14 2011, 08:44 PM)
First really affordable Sigma Designs Media Player in Malaysia with Sigma 8643 Chipset

with Apps Market

Unlike other media players in the market, AsiaBox is a new product from Syabas Technology, the designers of award-winning PopCornHour full HD 1080p media players.

With the Apps market, new apps for your to access Internet content are always updated so that a personal computer is not needed.

Apps available currently include Youtube, cnet.tv, Khan Academy, Channels.com, Cowboy Classics, Facebook, Flickr, Gougou, Howcast, Livestation, mkini.tv, PhotoBucket, Picasa, Revision3, RE/MAX, Quiz Master, YUI Library, Big Star, SHOUTcast Radio, TED, TEXAS HOLD’EM, TinPot, Video Detective, WeatherBug, and last but not least AsiaLive VOD and Asia Live TV.

Review Here

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


The YouTube app is different from that of other media players such as WD TV Live as you can view all available YouTube content.

With Asia Live VOD, you have access to PPS.tv library of over 6,400 movies and hundreds of TV series from all over the world. You have to see this box in action to appreciate it.

Get a free demo - email me at: asiabox.my@gmail.com or SMS 012-2773430

Now available in Kuala Lumpur, Petaling Jaya and Subang Jaya.

Only  RM599.
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got it today, my 1st meda player. Essentially a dune with video on demand feature. Also can add on via usb a bluray player. Tested on unify, so far the video on demand movies run smoothly except when it is fast forwarded there are some time needed to rebuild the buffer. Thanks to victor who delivered the unit to my apartment and also help to setup and install it for me. Perhaps victor should open a seperate thread for the new affordable sigma player in our market for any updates and patches.

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QUOTE(DannyOP @ Mar 18 2011, 12:46 AM)
got it today, my 1st meda player. Essentially a dune with video on demand feature. Also can add on via usb a bluray player. Tested on unify, so far the video on demand movies run smoothly except when it is fast forwarded there are some time needed to rebuild the buffer. Thanks to victor who delivered the unit to my apartment and also help to setup and install it for me. Perhaps victor should open a seperate thread for the new affordable sigma player in our market for any updates and patches.
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Danny, thanks for positive comments. Nice setup you got there. Wish I could have something similar. Will setup a new post.
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QUOTE(DannyOP @ Mar 18 2011, 01:46 AM)
got it today, my 1st meda player. Essentially a dune with video on demand feature. Also can add on via usb a bluray player. Tested on unify, so far the video on demand movies run smoothly except when it is fast forwarded there are some time needed to rebuild the buffer. Thanks to victor who delivered the unit to my apartment and also help to setup and install it for me. Perhaps victor should open a seperate thread for the new affordable sigma player in our market for any updates and patches.
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Bro, does it support full BD menu?
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Yes tried it with my iso files. The best feature for me is the video on demand with bluray rips. Thousands of movie titles and series from English to Chinese. Now the only thing I need more is time to watch them all lol

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QUOTE(DannyOP @ Mar 18 2011, 04:14 PM)
Yes tried it with my iso files. The best feature for me is the video on demand with bluray rips. Thousands of movie titles and series  from English to Chinese. Now the only thing I need more is time to watch them all lol
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It's free, not sure for how long though.

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QUOTE(DannyOP @ Mar 18 2011, 06:31 PM)
It's free, not sure for how long though.
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ic, so the seller doesn't warrant the asiavod feature as i m interested in pps mostly.
the unit streams pps via malaysia broadband?
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ic, so the seller doesn't warrant the asiavod feature as i m interested in pps mostly.
the unit streams pps via malaysia broadband?
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See screenshots at AsiaBox.
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Hi Guys,

Thinking of buying a HD Media Player to replace my constant habit of buying blurays. I have also subscribed to Unifi VIP10 and wanna fully utilise it by download some 1080p movies.

Can anyone recommend one the fits my requirements?


My requirments are as follow:

1. Must have bit torrent capabilities. Wanna do the downloads from here rather than my PC so must be a stable platform
2. Supports HD Audio (DTS HD and Dolby True HD). I think what I need is the pass through option as I already have a high end Receiver/Amp from Denon.
3. Excellent picture quality.
4. Must support 3.5" hard disk.


My budget is around RM1500 excluding the hard disk.
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Hi Guys,

Thinking of buying a HD Media Player to replace my constant habit of buying blurays. I have also subscribed to Unifi VIP10 and wanna fully utilise it by download some 1080p movies.

Can anyone recommend one the fits my requirements?
My requirments are as follow:

1. Must have bit torrent capabilities. Wanna do the downloads from here rather than my PC so must be a stable platform
2. Supports HD Audio (DTS HD and Dolby True HD). I think what I need is the pass through option as I already have a high end Receiver/Amp from Denon.
3. Excellent picture quality.
4. Must support 3.5" hard disk.
My budget is around RM1500 excluding the hard disk.
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http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1672572&hl=dune


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QUOTE(bashir3 @ Mar 24 2011, 09:43 PM)
Hi Guys,

Thinking of buying a HD Media Player to replace my constant habit of buying blurays. I have also subscribed to Unifi VIP10 and wanna fully utilise it by download some 1080p movies.

Can anyone recommend one the fits my requirements?
My requirments are as follow:

1. Must have bit torrent capabilities. Wanna do the downloads from here rather than my PC so must be a stable platform
2. Supports HD Audio (DTS HD and Dolby True HD). I think what I need is the pass through option as I already have a high end Receiver/Amp from Denon.
3. Excellent picture quality.
4. Must support 3.5" hard disk.
My budget is around RM1500 excluding the hard disk.
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You can look for Popcorn Hour. It may suite your need.



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You can look for Popcorn Hour. It may suite your need.
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Hi,

Thanks for the input. Had a look at the popcorn C-200 but it didn't have the wifi capability by default but required the wifi card to be ordered seperately. Decided to go with the Dune HD Smart D1 with the Dlink Wireless-N DWA-140(rev B2) USB and a WD Green 2TB hard disk. (Total damage for all 3 items was RM1130 from Compuzone) drool.gif

Really happy with the purchase as the picture and sound quality is amazing and almost on par with my blurays when playing 1080p movie downloads. Now have to find some movie files that have DTS-HD or Dolby TrueHD to really test out the sound quality.

Only dissapointment is that the built-in torrent client is very basic and I am unable to use OpenVPN to bypass Streamyx's torrent throttling. Guess have to continue use my macbook for downloads.

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Hi,

Thanks for the input. Had a look at the popcorn C-200 but it didn't have the wifi capability by default but required the wifi card to be ordered seperately. Decided to go with the Dune HD Smart D1 with the Dlink Wireless-N DWA-140(rev B2) USB and a WD Green 2TB hard disk. (Total damage for all 3 items was RM1130 from Compuzone)  drool.gif

Really happy with the purchase as the picture and sound quality is amazing and almost on par with my blurays when playing 1080p movie downloads. Now have to find some movie files that have DTS-HD or Dolby TrueHD to really test out the sound quality.

Only dissapointment is that the built-in torrent client is very basic and I am unable to use OpenVPN to bypass Streamyx's torrent throttling. Guess have to continue use my macbook for downloads.
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Hi,

No problems. Go ahead with your decision as long as the unit suite your need. May be we can do some comparision after you test/explore the unit. Thanks.


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QUOTE(bashir3 @ Apr 2 2011, 05:30 PM)
Hi,

Thanks for the input. Had a look at the popcorn C-200 but it didn't have the wifi capability by default but required the wifi card to be ordered seperately. Decided to go with the Dune HD Smart D1 with the Dlink Wireless-N DWA-140(rev B2) USB and a WD Green 2TB hard disk. (Total damage for all 3 items was RM1130 from Compuzone)  drool.gif

Really happy with the purchase as the picture and sound quality is amazing and almost on par with my blurays when playing 1080p movie downloads. Now have to find some movie files that have DTS-HD or Dolby TrueHD to really test out the sound quality.

Only dissapointment is that the built-in torrent client is very basic and I am unable to use OpenVPN to bypass Streamyx's torrent throttling. Guess have to continue use my macbook for downloads.
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Hi,

Do you store you files in its internal drive or do you stream it from NAS ?
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Hi,

Do you store you files in its internal drive or do you stream it from NAS ?
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Storing it in the internal 2TB drive. I'm still using wireless-G tech which is not fast enough to stream HD content over it.
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Hi sifu-sifu,

Any functions/features that I can surf net through my media player or any 3rd party software?
I would like to maximized my media player features. Going to explore every inch of it. heheh....
I'm planning to make used of the NAS functions. So, my next project is to store all my music files and photos. May need assist from time to time.

Thank you.
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Hello sifus hope y'all can help me. I want to set up a NAS at my house to store my music, movies and photos. I need a media player that can also stream these files to the devices at my house (iPhone, iPad, laptops). Currently I'm considering the r1185 based v10 and asiabox. Which is better? I'm currently using datage 1055 and kinda satisfied with the picture quality. I'm more interested in the stability of the NAS and torrent function. Please help.
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Hey guys whats the cheapest media player using the most powerful chipset? Is it still Sigma 8643/42 ? if yes what Media player can reco? No need HDD enclosure, most important is cheap & really powerful.
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QUOTE(lucifrhun @ Jul 5 2011, 04:10 PM)
Hello sifus hope y'all can help me. I want to set up a NAS at my house to store my music, movies and photos. I need a media player that can also stream these files to the devices at my house (iPhone, iPad, laptops). Currently I'm considering the r1185 based v10 and asiabox. Which is better? I'm currently using datage 1055 and kinda satisfied with the picture quality. I'm more interested in the stability of the NAS and torrent function. Please help.
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Just to share with you, I am using a Synology DS-411slim (4 x 2.5" bay) to serve as both a NAS and also media server. You should check it out as it is the most full featured NAS for home use. I am using it with 2 AsiaBox to download and playback movies, even Bluray ISO directly over my LAN. You need to get min. at least DS-211 (2-bay) or DS411(4-bay) model if you want to use 3.5" hard disk. I got the DS411slim because it is cheaper than the DS411 but then I end up paying more for 2.5" hard disk. One important advantage is 2.5" should perform better even at same RPM due to smaller disk platter.

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Synology DS411slim

It can support Torrent and even NZB downloads directly so no need to burn out your PC. Easy to administer web admin client from anywhere. Also, you can use SynDroid on any Android device to control and select downloads!! rclxms.gif

If you need a NAS for download, this is the best one. Only disadvantage as with all such NAS is you need to install new internal drives. If you use your existing drives already loaded with content, you will have to copy it out first and then copy back.

You can also mount and share external hard disk with USB or e-SATA. No need to copy into the NAS.

Need more info? PM me.

I will outline my setup in http://www.asiabox.my

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hi guys,

wanna ask if you guys know how to fix my Media Player problem. I got a Clamul S6T, (diyomate OEM) bought last year, i believe its using Realtek 1073 chip. THe problem occur recently when i want to play movie, when i press play, the player reboot for no reason. The player can play preview just fine but when i want to play it full screen the problem occur.
Test with mp3 file it run just fine, but Video file the player will reboot...

anyone here encounter this problem with your Realtek 1073 player....? hELP notworthy.gif

is there any reset key combination or firmware tat i can update to fix this problem..

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Why don't u ask yangxi as he's the master of these 1073 player.
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seem like until now realtek still unable to support full BD-iso!!
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QUOTE(feelfree @ Nov 2 2011, 07:47 PM)
seem like until now realtek still unable to support full BD-iso!!
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I prefet Realtek, better sound quality
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Quick update: Realtek 1186 based media player does not clip WTW (Whiter than white) anymore. As I test the accuracy of the chipset, I will report.
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can someone recommend a HD media player that can

1. play MKV format
2. sync wirelessly or buffer wirelessly from my pc
3. can torrent?

3rd is optional, hopefully can be below rm600

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who has any news about RTD1187?
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can someone recommend a HD media player that can

1. play MKV format
2. sync wirelessly or buffer wirelessly from my pc
3. can torrent?

3rd is optional, hopefully can be below rm600
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If you don't need to have internal HDD capability, suggest the HiMedia HD900A. It can playback full HD material from PC without lag. Mine was with HD900A with WiFi version. More info on HiMedia:

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1849024

You can pm ccs221 or toratorabluray for a deal..
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Realtek definitely my choice though not as updated in certain features
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Can Realtek 1185 and 1186 chipset play mkv/m2ts 1080p frame rate 23.976hz with HDMI output native frame rate like Sigma chipset?
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QUOTE(chungf1 @ Mar 20 2012, 06:24 AM)
Thanks, seems like Realtek chipset frame rate issue only happen in NTSC land.
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I'm not sure what's the issue but at least when I set my HiMedia HD900A to HDMI Auto mode, my TV display it as 1080P 24 when I playback the 23.976Hz mkv or m2ts material..
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QUOTE(willkso @ Mar 20 2012, 09:25 PM)
I'm not sure what's the issue but at least when I set my HiMedia HD900A to HDMI Auto mode, my TV display it as 1080P 24 when I playback the 23.976Hz mkv or m2ts material..
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News from AVS forum regarding new realtek chipset playback 23.976fps it will add frame to 24hz not a true frame rate sent to TV info will display as 1080p 24hz according to AVS forum player is inserting an extra frame every 1000 frame on all 23.976 material every 42secs it will cause micro stuttering if you can notice it or maybe your TV auto frame cadence it to 3:2 convert back to 24hz to their native frame rate. They are reverting back to previous firmware 1.0.1.13 which is able to playback output true frame for 2D material but for 3D still at 24hz.

Just curious check mine which is old realtek 1073DD chipset playback 23.976fps with HDMI Auto mode and 24hz set ON but my projector info display show 1080p 24hz. doh.gif Time to upgrade new realtek 1186 but playback frame rate not stable and for sigma chipset can set HDMI specific 1080p 23.976 but expensive. rclxub.gif
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Life is too short for me. I love to watch movies but can't spend too much hours in front of the idiot box.

Sometimes on PC, I watched movies with increased speed, say 1.5X to 1.7X so that I can finished the movie during lunch-time.

Does any media players has such feature?
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Friends,

What are the recommendation for media player ? someone recommended Dune H1, popcorn and some A.C Ryan...confuse on all these model which should pick among
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Popcorn Hour A-300 with sigma 8647

http://www.popcornhour.com/onlinestore/ind...g&mainItemId=45


Added on April 10, 2012, 7:04 pmor
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sigma 8647 is the latest chipset compare to Dune Smart D1 - 8642/8643?


Added on April 11, 2012, 10:09 pmWhat are the improvement ?


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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Jan 18 2012, 08:07 PM)
Quick update: Realtek 1186 based media player does not clip WTW (Whiter than white) anymore. As I test the accuracy of the chipset, I will report.
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Hey, Anfieldude,
Your report done? Interested to know your findings.

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Himedia HD900B test playback mkv/m2ts framerate 23.976 on old firmware 1.0.1.3 with Onkyo amp video processor OFF it works Mitsubishi HC4000 projector display show true native framerate 23.98h and update to new firmware 1.0.4.7 test out projector display info playback framerate show 24.00hz result no different almost same didn't show any video shuttering every 42sec as reported on ntsc land.
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Just curious any1 encounter this problem before??

When u play the movie using PC(media player classic), u can switch the subtitle freely and it appear correctly during the movie was playing
But when u play using the media player, even though there is an option for u to switch the subtitle, but somehow it won't appear or sometimes only 1 type of subtitle can be display.....

any1 know what is this problem or solution to it?
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QUOTE(GrandElf @ Jun 4 2012, 01:05 PM)
Just curious any1 encounter this problem before??

When u play the movie using PC(media player classic), u can switch the subtitle freely and it appear correctly during the movie was playing
But when u play using the media player, even though there is an option for u to switch the subtitle, but somehow it won't appear or sometimes only 1 type of subtitle can be display.....

any1 know what is this problem or solution to it?
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is the naming convention correct?
is it embedded in mkv? correct encoding?
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Jun 4 2012, 02:16 PM)
is the naming convention correct?
is it embedded in mkv? correct encoding?
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the subtitle is embedded in the mkv.....play in PC OK but when play in media player didn't showup at all even though I already choose english/chinese for the subtitle..... rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(GrandElf @ Jun 4 2012, 02:19 PM)
the subtitle is embedded in the mkv.....play in PC OK but when play in media player didn't showup at all even though I already choose english/chinese for the subtitle..... rclxub.gif
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some media player doesn't support embedded subtitle...
unless have the SRT or SUB then u can switch freely in between by using media player
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Hi... is it sustainable or ok for media player to long term playing via USB port?

the 1TB HDD inside my Hornettek Showcase is really not enough and full. i intend to buy a 3TB WD Passport Essential to dedicated connect to it.
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QUOTE(debbierowe @ Oct 19 2012, 06:54 PM)
Hi... is it sustainable or ok for media player to long term playing via USB port?

the 1TB HDD inside my Hornettek Showcase is really not enough and full. i intend to buy a 3TB WD Passport Essential to dedicated connect to it.
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I have both my WD my book 1tb and 2tb plugged into my media player for almost 2 years...still working fine till now. I spent most of my weekend watching muvee at home...from morning till late nite, still working fine.

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QUOTE(melvyn @ Oct 29 2012, 10:13 PM)
I have both my WD my book 1tb and 2tb plugged into my media player for almost 2 years...still working fine till now. I spent most of my weekend watching muvee at home...from morning till late nite, still working fine.
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noted and thank you for your confirmation smile.gif
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QUOTE(debbierowe @ Oct 31 2012, 10:48 AM)
noted and thank you for your confirmation smile.gif
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Be careful. Not ALL media player can support 3TB harddisk...
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any good quality media player < RM200 ?
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Hi where did you guys download those HD or bluray movies? Thanks
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1) What happens when u play a DTS-MA file in a player that doesn't support DTS-MA decoding? We won't get any sound right? What is the cheapest player that can support the playback of DTS-Master?

2) If my AV receiver can support play back of DTS-MA, i can just set the player to pass-through the audio to my AV receiver then i will still get DTS-MA file out put right?

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QUOTE(Bliz @ Jun 8 2014, 02:06 PM)
1) What happens when u play a DTS-MA file in a player that doesn't support DTS-MA decoding? We won't get any sound right? What is the cheapest player that can support the playback of DTS-Master?

2) If my AV receiver can support play back of DTS-MA, i can just set the player to pass-through the audio to my AV receiver then i will still get DTS-MA file out put right?
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1. The player will detect the core DTS in the DTS HDMA. You'll get the 5.1 sound.
2. Yes, provided your player can detect the DTS HDMA audio and bitstream it.
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Looking for replacement multimedia player of hdx bd1. Sigma chipset. I need player which able to support 3D BD-ISO. Any suggestion?
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any suggestion? i need a tvbox for the access of Netflix and youtube only, thanks

 

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