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 Sigma vs. Realtek, 2 major media players chipsets Mfg

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arremie
post Feb 7 2010, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(adamw @ Feb 7 2010, 01:12 PM)
If your TV is 1080p go for WDTV cos Sigma PQ is better especially on 1080p.
tq. yeah my tv capable of that. anybody second that recommendation?
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post Feb 7 2010, 02:21 PM

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this one gonna place upstairs or downstairs?

if u dun want to put internal HDD inside the player go for WDTV live..

u can read post #128 by anfieldude on his test on sigma based media player..

happy hunting... biggrin.gif


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post Feb 7 2010, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(zerorulez @ Feb 7 2010, 02:21 PM)
this one gonna place upstairs or downstairs?

if u dun want to put internal HDD inside the player go for WDTV live..

u can read post #128 by anfieldude on his test on sigma based media player..

happy hunting... biggrin.gif
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Wonder if we can get commission from Western Digital?

This post has been edited by adamw: Feb 7 2010, 04:11 PM
arremie
post Feb 7 2010, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(zerorulez @ Feb 7 2010, 02:21 PM)
this one gonna place upstairs or downstairs?

if u dun want to put internal HDD inside the player go for WDTV live..

u can read post #128 by anfieldude on his test on sigma based media player..

happy hunting... biggrin.gif
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this one will put upstairs coz can downmix dts without avr. i dont need internal hdd. all my hdd external. that's why i narrow down to wdtv live or acryan mini. both about same price. the difference is only chipset. so u also think sigma chipset on wdtv live better than acryan realtek? malas nak baca post just need a quick opinion tongue.gif
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post Feb 7 2010, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(adamw @ Feb 7 2010, 03:41 PM)
Wonder if we can get commission from Western Digital?
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that wud be great... rclxms.gif

QUOTE(arremie @ Feb 7 2010, 06:02 PM)
this one will put upstairs coz can downmix dts without avr. i dont need internal hdd. all my hdd external. that's why i narrow down to wdtv live or acryan mini. both about same price. the difference is only chipset. so u also think sigma chipset on wdtv live better than acryan realtek? malas nak baca post just need a quick opinion tongue.gif
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i read it.. but only faham 50% jer..rclxub.gif

planning to connect the old WDTV to 6003 ? brows.gif

I go for sigma... never realtek fan.. biggrin.gif

OT: C.K is back on air... biggrin.gif

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arremie
post Feb 7 2010, 07:14 PM

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cool. wdtv live it is then. old wdtv already downstairs connected to avr tongue.gif
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post Feb 10 2010, 10:47 AM

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I did some reading regarding the chipsets and came across this article. It compares different generation of realtek and sigma chipsets and also what players are using them.

http://www.iboum.com/artkill/chipsets.php

After reading this I have no hesitation in getting wdtv live instead of acryan mini biggrin.gif
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post Feb 10 2010, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(arremie @ Feb 10 2010, 10:47 AM)
After reading this I have no hesitation in getting wdtv live instead of acryan mini biggrin.gif
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bro, get those Sigma chip players...Realtek is a bit fussy with 1080p mkv...trust me...I know..
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post Feb 10 2010, 11:02 AM

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thanks for the insight bro notworthy.gif
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post Feb 10 2010, 07:16 PM

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Anyone knows Apacer AL460 using what chipset? price is not expensive though

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post Feb 12 2010, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(ShenToN @ Feb 10 2010, 07:16 PM)
Anyone knows Apacer AL460 using what chipset?  price is not expensive though
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From the specs...looks like Realtek.

Realtek outnumber Sigma 10 to 1.

But it doesn't mean the more models means better...experience tells me Sigma is the way to go, unless you are playing RMVB formats
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QUOTE(azbro @ Feb 10 2010, 10:52 AM)
bro, get those Sigma chip players...Realtek is a bit fussy with 1080p mkv...trust me...I know..
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Then in order to play Real media files, get a separate Real media player?
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post Mar 15 2010, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Jan 24 2010, 11:21 PM)
Guys,

Don't have times to do a complete write up so I will summarize the results u can see in the attachment. As promised, I checked from a processing point of view if there are any alterations when the media player is sent test patterns in terms of calibration.

The reference files are as they are named and a reference. They were from a PS3 using AVSHD709 test patterns (meter :EyeOne Pro)

The Sigma (8655 chipset) files are results obtained thru a media player that uses the Sigma chipset also using the AVSHD709 test patterns.

Greyscale:
No major differences. The brightness and contrast are essentially unchanged. The sharpness is neutral no additional sharpening added by the processor.
Good results

Gamut (Flagged)
On flagged HD content, there are no differences. Good results.

Gamut (Unflagged)
On any HD content that is not flagged as HD, major problems. All colours, hue, saturation and luminance are clearly out. This is a problem only if the media u are playing is unflagged. So if u suddenly run a video, that has very bright greens, cyans and the reds look weird, it means the content was unflagged and the chipset used the wrong colourspace to do the conversion. HD shd be decoded in Rec709 but the Sigma chipset seems to use Rec601 and still mess up the stuff.

Moral of the story:
If u r using a Sigma chipset media player, u're in good shape if ur content is flagged correctly. Else there might be some problems. The plus is that if it is correctly flagged, it is not altering the picture in any way that is bad. This has been a problem even with older Sigma chipset, they just never fixed it.

I will write more when I have the time and if there are questions.

If someone loans me a Realtek chipset media player I will do the same.
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Any test for Realtek 1073 ??


Added on March 15, 2010, 12:12 pm
QUOTE(arremie @ Feb 7 2010, 01:55 PM)
tq. yeah my tv capable of that. anybody second that recommendation?
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Is it really better? Is the difference significant? If yes I might probably consider to change to WDTV live

This post has been edited by echoesian: Mar 15 2010, 12:12 PM
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post Mar 15 2010, 07:25 PM

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QUOTE(echoesian @ Mar 15 2010, 12:02 PM)
Any test for Realtek 1073 ??


Added on March 15, 2010, 12:12 pm

Is it really better? Is the difference significant? If yes I might probably consider to change to WDTV live
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Someone needs to loan me a Realtek player for me to make the checks....
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post Mar 15 2010, 10:26 PM

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click here....

Sigma vs Realtek revenue...

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post Mar 15 2010, 11:47 PM

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acryan mini really cheap now only 415 at digital mall
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post Mar 17 2010, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(arremie @ Mar 15 2010, 11:47 PM)
acryan mini really cheap now only 415 at digital mall
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Guess all the old batch of realtek based players now have to reduce price since it's confirmed that it'll never ever be able to bitstream HD Audio.
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QUOTE(azbro @ Feb 10 2010, 10:52 AM)
bro, get those Sigma chip players...Realtek is a bit fussy with 1080p mkv...trust me...I know..
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How fussy is it? but I'm able to play >15 mb bit rate mkv movies without any problem wor....
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post Mar 17 2010, 04:45 PM

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that is because u haven't encounter one yet whistling.gif
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post Mar 18 2010, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(echoesian @ Mar 17 2010, 03:36 PM)
How fussy is it? but I'm able to play >15 mb bit rate mkv movies without any problem wor....
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Can you find a Transformer 1 1080p movie that can play (without remux) smoothly?
How abt Deep Impact 1080p -DON?
There are a few titles more like Blu Elements - Forsenses, Vertical Limit etc

But as long as you remux it, it should be able to play.


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