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Science travel in the speed of light, make you younger? true?

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post Dec 25 2009, 12:03 PM

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i've always been interested in looking at how the larger picture (the universe) is often reflected in the micro (sub atomic universe).

an atom consists of a nucleus with orbiting electrons, just like planets orbiting a star.

what if... WHAT IF... our solar system is actually just an atom in a larger universe? that a whole galaxy actually makes up one object like a grain of sand, and that other universes combine with ours to make a sandy beach?

and as it infinitely grows outward, so it does inwards. what if each atom in our body is a solar system, and its electrons are potential habitable planets?

the mind boggles... lol.
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post Dec 25 2009, 12:23 PM

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In Einstein's theory of relativity, once you reach the speed of light. Time for the object will stop.
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post Dec 26 2009, 09:21 AM

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"In Einstein's theory of relativity, once you reach the speed of light. Time for the object will stop. "

Time stop. But not life. Human still need to regenerate dead cell , etc.... which mean we will age (biologically).
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post Dec 26 2009, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(100n @ Dec 26 2009, 09:21 AM)
"In Einstein's theory of relativity, once you reach the speed of light. Time for the object will stop. "

Time stop. But not life. Human still need to regenerate dead cell , etc.... which mean we will age (biologically).
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Human consciousness of time flow with time, so is our regenerative capability. if time stop, then it means everything stop. we wont notice if time stop at all, because our brain stop when time stop.
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post Dec 27 2009, 12:52 AM

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QUOTE(100n @ Dec 26 2009, 09:21 AM)
"In Einstein's theory of relativity, once you reach the speed of light. Time for the object will stop. "

Time stop. But not life. Human still need to regenerate dead cell , etc.... which mean we will age (biologically).
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talkin about Einstein u need to understand delusion of speed. I show u in simple way..

u and me wearing a stopwatch. let say we start our stopwatch together. you stay there watching me and i start running at the speed of light in straight direction. to ur eyes (witness eyes) i'm gone. but to my eyes everything around me going faster( like video forwarding). you stay there a few years (dengan setianye) waiting for me to coming back. after 5 years i'm back in front of you. we stop our stopwatch together. and you ask me where did im going in five years. I said im not going anywhere just a few step in front of you and my stopwatch record 5 second only.
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post Dec 27 2009, 01:35 AM

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as i understand as you approach the speed of light, so much energy is used to travel the distance that less is used to travel through time as time is the 4th dimension through which we travel. It's theoretically impossible for anything other than electromagnetic waves to achieve the speed of light as far as we know. we don't get younger as age is relative. We never do get younger. We just age at a slower age relative to those travelling at a slower speed.
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technically, tachyon particles move faster than light.
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post Dec 27 2009, 10:47 AM

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post Dec 27 2009, 08:10 PM

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This topic is really interesting. I would love to jump in in the discussion but i dare not to. Wrong conceptions might lead to hazardous consequences, as i am not qualified to speak up my mind on this matter. Do continue the discussion, reading this thread is better than watching movies or reading novels I have to say.
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QUOTE(Kernkraft400 @ Dec 27 2009, 12:10 PM)
This topic is really interesting. I would love to jump in in the discussion but i dare not to. Wrong conceptions might lead to hazardous consequences, as i am not qualified to speak up my mind on this matter. Do continue the discussion, reading this thread is better than watching movies or reading novels I have to say.
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there's a safe way to voice ur opinion.

"put it in a form of a question."

lets say u have a bizarre idea which u dont know whether it is absurd or brilliant. put the statement here and then ask a question. let other clarify or justify it.
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post Dec 28 2009, 02:32 AM

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It's just simple as this.

If you're in a spaceship which travels in a speed of light from point A to point B and the outside of the spaceship calculate the time as 5 years, you will not feel 5 years cause the time stops inside the spaceship. You will feel a split second arrival. When you arrived, people already aged 5 years older than you. Simple as that..
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post Dec 29 2009, 10:26 AM

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"If you're in a spaceship which travels in a speed of light from point A to point B and the outside of the spaceship calculate the time as 5 years, you will not feel 5 years cause the time stops inside the spaceship. You will feel a split second arrival. When you arrived, people already aged 5 years older than you. Simple as that.. "

Thats the statement that bother me. If Im travel Point A to Pont B in 5 sec. That's means I'm travel fast (my biological will grow/regenerate/deteiorate for 5 sec). When I reach Point B. Point B wont age (from what I see) for 5 Years because he didnt travel(constant speed), he just age normally.

Consider this, If I want to go to Mars using light speed, I might reach there in 7 minutes instead of 1-2 years. That doesnt means ppl in earth already aged 1-2 years. I just travel/reach Mars faster.

However, if I travel/warp space faster that speed of light to Pluto. I will reach Pluto in 10 minutes but human in earth will only see me after (maybe 1 month) because the light that reflect back is slower that the speed i move.

Althought previous buddy already said my theory is wrong and einstein is right. Yet, I still unable to understand what Einstein theory said and his support. but i like jswong explaination.

Other suggest that example show in GPRS and Clock (difference) from earth and space. But those are mechanical, which probably affected by gravity, electromagnet and etc. What we are talking now is more like biological. And Biologically, a cell need to duplicate at certain period of time. and the "time" here means the nutrient that its taken, used, and regenerate.

If we can stay younger means we spend less time in Speed of light to reach a certain distance/area. But that doesnt mean that if we travel around the world in speed of light for let say 1 minute, mean those who are constant speed in earth age 1 day. To me, its only we cover the earth (round the world) faster that earth turn.

But of course, Unless the show in Superman really works. Where's Superman fly in speed of light and turn the earth the opposite way (means he went back to the past)...zzz

What do you guys think?

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post Dec 29 2009, 10:58 AM

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distance between stars is calculated in light years which is the amount of time light travels between two stars. so eg if the distance between our sun and another star is one light year it will take one year using speed of light for us to reach to the other star. (do correct me if I'm wrong)

really love science fiction: the time machine (about time travel) and the most recent one, pandorum (space travel w/o light speed)

should read The Forever War too. I haven't read that myself, but it is about a war between two star systems. and the soldiers have to use faster than light travel. so centuries pass as they travel between the stars.
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post Dec 29 2009, 10:22 PM

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I have a question.

why does our biological clock moves slower while moving within/faster than speed of light?

all i can comprehend is that we just move faster with the same speed that light travels.

and.. if our biological clock moves slower than while traveling at the speed of light, does that mean if we manage to stop light from traveling so fast, we might see another form of light?
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post Dec 29 2009, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(100n @ Dec 29 2009, 10:26 AM)
"If you're in a spaceship which travels in a speed of light from point A to point B and the outside of the spaceship calculate the time as 5 years, you will not feel 5 years cause the time stops inside the spaceship. You will feel a split second arrival. When you arrived, people already aged 5 years older than you. Simple as that.. "

Thats the statement that bother me. If Im travel Point A to Pont B in 5 sec. That's means I'm travel fast (my biological will grow/regenerate/deteiorate for 5 sec). When I reach Point B. Point B wont age (from what I see) for 5 Years because he didnt travel(constant speed), he just age normally.

Consider this, If I want to go to Mars using light speed, I might reach there in 7 minutes instead of 1-2 years. That doesnt means ppl in earth already aged 1-2 years. I just travel/reach Mars faster.

However, if I travel/warp space faster that speed of light to Pluto. I will reach Pluto in 10 minutes but human in earth will only see me after (maybe 1 month) because the light that reflect back is slower that the speed i move.

Althought previous buddy already said my theory is wrong and einstein is right. Yet, I still unable to understand what Einstein theory said and his support. but i like jswong explaination.

Other suggest that example show in GPRS and Clock (difference) from earth and space. But those are mechanical, which probably affected by gravity, electromagnet and etc. What we are talking now is more like biological. And Biologically, a cell need to duplicate at certain period of time. and the "time" here means the nutrient that its taken, used, and regenerate.

If we can stay younger means we spend less time in Speed of light to reach a certain distance/area. But that doesnt mean that if we travel around the world in speed of light for let say 1 minute, mean those who are constant speed in earth age 1 day. To me, its only we cover the earth (round the world) faster that earth turn.

But of course, Unless the show in Superman really works. Where's Superman fly in speed of light and turn the earth the opposite way (means he went back to the past)...zzz

What do you guys think?
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If u are going to mars with the speed of light and u reach there in 7 minutes, u won't feel as if u travelled 7 minutes. U feel just a split second. While others who is not on that ship of yours will feel 7 minutes already passed away.

About Superman, that's a fictional character, please don't compare..
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QUOTE(Alone @ Dec 29 2009, 10:22 PM)
I have a question.

why does our biological clock moves slower while moving within/faster than speed of light?

all i can comprehend is that we just move faster with the same speed that light travels.

and.. if our biological clock moves slower than while traveling at the speed of light, does that mean if we manage to stop light from traveling so fast, we might see another form of light?
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If you are moving the same speed with light. Time inside the ship including you will stop.
Even if the ship travels for 1 million years, you'll feel split second.
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post Dec 29 2009, 11:30 PM

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If 1 million years of travel = feel a split second. Does my body age a split second? Or will my body just die.
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post Dec 29 2009, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(Chill4x @ Dec 29 2009, 11:30 PM)
If 1 million years of travel = feel a split second. Does my body age a split second? Or will my body just die.
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Everything stops. Your time, your body your mind. EVERYTHING.

You can read more on Einstein's theory of relativity.
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post Dec 30 2009, 12:58 AM

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We can conclude that time travelling is possible if we(humans) are able to travel in the speed of light.
BUT, what about going back to the past? Is that possible? Explain.
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QUOTE(chenwei89 @ Dec 30 2009, 12:58 AM)
We can conclude that time travelling is possible if we(humans) are able to travel in the speed of light.
BUT, what about going back to the past? Is that possible? Explain.
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If an object can move FASTER than the speed of light, it can go to the past. But I'm pretty not sure about this fact. I have to research it more..

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