QUOTE(lesliechan19 @ Dec 19 2009, 04:33 PM)
Dude cause I can sense that ur 1st reply full if EM? I told u I jeep on killing because I have my own item. Even if try met me in forest I also can handle them easily. Ulti+skill 2. That's the reason we can farm alot cause we keep on ganking too.It's not I sensitive or what,just I want to make it clear. You not in the game you have no idea how the match goes. No offence with my MSG.I am always friendly as most of them also knew me in hon. Feel free let's play together
Added on December 19, 2009, 4:34 pmDude cause I can sense that ur 1st reply full if EM? I told u I jeep on killing because I have my own item. Even if try met me in forest I also can handle them easily. Ulti+skill 2. That's the reason we can farm alot cause we keep on ganking too.It's not I sensitive or what,just I want to make it clear. You not in the game you have no idea how the match goes. No offence with my MSG.I am always friendly as most of them also knew me in hon. Feel free let's play together
Good, next time got you play together then we will have higher chance to win.
Added on December 19, 2009, 9:35 pmQUOTE(ZeratoS @ Dec 19 2009, 06:15 PM)
Oh I assure you, with a competent scout, the puppetmaster won't have anything more than a pair of shoes. Game would've ended by 20 minutes because there is NO place to farm without getting locked down by scout's unparalled map control abilities.
Scout can counter most of agi/int hero in 1vs1 when undetected by ppl.
Only those strength hero got some chance to win him in 1 vs1.
Puppet is not those solo hero. He can't 1vs1 to most of hero but he is good in 2vs2. Those high dmg hero such like soulstealer,forsaken archer(when she have charge lighting item/frost) when I use second skill on him, he cause the enemy panic. That one panic plus another one that hit by him also panic. Ppl normal reaction is run away when hit by something that he totally cannot counter at all . So most of the time when 2vs2 puppet with another teammate can easily kill 1 to 2 of opponent. When group fight 5vs5 due to second skill, he cause 2 ppl panic and cannot act on that period. It make that 5vs3, after that period, some of them will run away due to panic and some will die, then it is easy to push becos we outnumber them.
Scout mostly hide first, when ppl start fight then only come out to pick those low hp hero such as puppet so puppet mostly die on scout hand is normal thing that why need to use ward when pushing if opponent got scout.
In early time, b4 lvl 6, scout cannot win puppet, after lvl 6 scout can win. In lane area, scout is not easy to win puppet but in jungle then it is much easier for him to kill puppet.
In later game depend on item, puppet must first see the scout to win him, if not most will lose. Puppet seldom walk along when there is scout.
If your scout are that good, then not only puppet master, any int/agi hero that play by opponent will also no chance to farm at all(If you can keep killing them from top to bottom). Some can stun you after you hit him but they cannot run as fast as scout so mostly they will also die. (This not only puppet that weak to scout, is most agi/int heroes and scout is made to kill hero in that way) so far in HON there is very hard for scout to keep ganking and kill whole map opponent and all opponent dunno how to counter it at all. Those experience ppl will put some ward. Even normal ward will useful vs scout, as scout seldom direct invisible then walk from btm to top to kill. They will mostly walk to mid then only start invisible.
Scout can be stopped if ppl take care and focus in starting of the game. A lot of ppl dun even buy ward when facing scout. 200 gold is very cheap compare to you die 1 times(lose gold on dying, lose exp, waste time and also cannot farm on that period).
This post has been edited by diehard1979: Dec 19 2009, 09:35 PM 
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