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skiddtrader
post Aug 6 2010, 12:56 PM

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A CCC replaces the CF which certifies a building/area is safe for occupancy technically.

JCY is occupying a building which has no certification. If it is a clause in the listing requirement, then by Jan 2011 they have to get the CCC or move out of the said building.
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post Aug 6 2010, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(GregPG01 @ Aug 6 2010, 01:13 PM)
How on earth did they end up in a building without the CF in the first place ? It's their building or rented ?
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Maybe they built it themselves. Could be a warehouse or just a storage shed or an extension of a building. I don't think can be rented out if no CCC, I'm just guessing though. hmm.gif
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post Dec 3 2010, 12:23 PM

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After JCY quarterly loss, Notion don't look half as bad. doh.gif


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post Dec 3 2010, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(dt09 @ Dec 3 2010, 05:26 PM)
I suspect this loss is done on purpose to avoid paying additional dividends. Loss amount is just nice to avoid second dividend payment ( dividend policy of 50% of net profit ). I heard some rumour that Yong Yoon Kiong who holds 74% of JCY wants to take it private again since JCY has been underperformed in KLSE. Did anyone hear this rumour ? If it comes true then, there is still a hope.
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If the rumour is true, what makes you think he would pay any higher if he is the kind of person that would report lower profits in the first place to pay less dividends?

I think a more believable conspiracy theory is that the share is subdued so all the call warrants issuers will earn since it is all out of money. 3 call warrants in the market, 2 by OSK 1 by CIMB. I won't be surprised if those two research houses issues SELL calls or lower TP to push down the price further so they don't need to pay anyone anything. 2 of the Call warrants will expire by March next year.

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Added lower TPs because I noticed OSK has a TP of only 85sens in the research for JCY, compared to their strike price of RM1.75 for their call warrant. How convenient.

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post Dec 3 2010, 06:46 PM

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Found a snippet of CIMB research on 1st Dec downgrading JCY.

"We slash our FY11-12 EPS estimates by 20-28%. In view of the murky near-term outlook and P/E compression for HDD suppliers, we cut our target P/E from 12x CY11 to 8x CY12, in line with the industry average. This reduces our target price from RM1.88 to 92 sen.

'We downgrade the stock from Outperform to UNDERPERFORM as the stock could be de-rated by these poor results. Although we remain positive on its long-term prospects, we believe a better time to revisit the stock would be 2H11,' it said."


The JCY-CA issued by them has a strike price of RM1.35 maturing in March 2011. How convenient 2H11 only they will re-look this share and re-rate.
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post Mar 27 2012, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(lamken @ Mar 27 2012, 05:41 PM)
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I only know market is not bullish about HDD price remain at the same elevated level over the long run.

How do you know that? Provide supprting facts and evidence please, anyone can make generalisations and assumptions. Eveything you have said thus far has
not been backed with facts and evidence.  iam still waiting on examples from you of the 2 companies which made 100x increase in earnings but share price did not move.

I'm still waiting for your facts and evidence to show that OSK manipulated the price to maintain it low. hmm.gif Let's not accuse unless we have facts ourselves, am I right?

HDD prices will not maintain. This is not an assumption. If you track HDD prices before the Thai flood and now, you would know that once production for every supplier comes onstream again, HDD prices will without a doubt fall again. It may not be this year, but come 2013 HDD prices will be forced down again. While 2012 will not see a serious challenge from SSD market, it is catching up and growing considerably as prices of RAMs drop. Who knows in 2013/4 what will the prices of SSDs be.

JCY is expanding to absorb the production capacity that will be shifted out of Thailand. This is a good way to cement it's reputation as a huge HDD parts supplier. A lot can happen in 2 years.
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post Mar 27 2012, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(lamken @ Mar 27 2012, 09:20 PM)
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I'm still waiting for your facts and evidence to show that OSK manipulated the price to maintain it low.  hmm.gif  Let's not accuse unless we have facts ourselves, am I right?

Facts/Evidence:

-JCY-CD expiry on 27th Feb.
- Price tested 1.50 on Feb 8th but retraced back to 1.21 by 27th Feb (JCY-CD expiry).
-Price continues to retrace back to a low of 1.07 and last week OSK announces new warrant JCY -CE and share price slowly trickles backup.
-Refer to historical price charts on tradesignum etc please during this time. I cannot be bothered pasting it here for you.
-Also please do some research on warrants and how intistitutions hedge, your lackof knoweldge is a complete waste of my time.
 
Now please give me my 2 examples of companies that have experienced 100x increase earnings and share price has not moved. Stop avoiding this question.

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HDD prices will not maintain. This is not an assumption. If you track HDD prices before the Thai flood and now, you would know that once production for every supplier comes onstream again, HDD prices will without a doubt fall again. It may not be this year, but come 2013 HDD prices will be forced down again. While 2012 will not JCY is expanding to absorb the production capacity that will be shifted out of Thailand. This is a good way to cement it's reputation as a huge HDD parts supplier. A lot can happen in 2 years.see a serious challenge from SSD market, it is catching up and growing considerably as prices of RAMs drop. Who knows in 2013/4 what will the prices of SSDs be.

sorry these generalisations/assumptions  are invalid unless you can back up these claims with facts/ evidences/ sources.
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JCY is expanding to absorb the production capacity that will be shifted out of Thailand. This is a good way to cement it's reputation as a huge HDD parts supplier. A lot can happen in 2 years.

- A very BIG F for fail for you here and further evidence of your lack of knowledge in commenting on something you know absolutely nothing about.. JCY has already stated publicly that it intends to use 80% of the money to buy new machines. If they were shifting their production out of thailand, they dont need to buy new machines, they can simply move the machines out of thailand. And no they are not shifting anything out of thailand because their factory in Saraburi thailand sits on high ground with no threat of flooding. hence they were not impacted by the floods.

Below are facts and supporting evidence which proves you are not only wrong but do not have a clue. 

FACTS/SUPPORTING EVIDENCE.  http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/highlights/...e-19-fold-.html

"to cater for an expected increased demand from its major customers, JCY's board has approved
RM300m capital expenditure to expand its facilities in Malaysia, Thailand and China"

"Some 80% of the money will be used to buy machinery"

So I rest my case and will not be wasting anymore of my precious time because of your lackof knowledge and inability to research.
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You know what, I'm pretty sure there is no way I can even hope to dent the mindset you've already casted over your general view. But here is some examples I wouldn't even bother to search but will just quote.

Example 1:

If a company is making losses for 1 year, how much % in profit did they make if the following year the company makes RM1k in profit compared to last year losses. IS it 1000% profit growth?

And just to clarify what you've quoted and admonished what I've stated about JCYs expansion (note: EXPANSION). I stated that JCY is EXPANDING to absorb the shift in production out of Thailand by other manufacturers. I did not suggest that JCY's own factory is moving out. So your 'a very BIG F for fail' comment is not valid. cool2.gif It is reported in the Thai media, Thailand is expected to lose 10% of it's long term manufacturing tenants in the flood affected regions. These companies will probably look forward to set up base either in Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia or China.


So your 'facts and evidence' on OSK manipulating prices, is actually your opinion based on price charts on trade signum? Interesting. I'm sure the jury will be completely convinced. doh.gif

But you're absolutely right on one thing which is the fact that you shouldn't waste your time on any of us (which don't know anything) anymore.

Cheers. cool.gif


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post Apr 26 2012, 04:24 PM

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So what happen to OSk conspiracy to push the price down? hmm.gif

 

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