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roy918
post Jan 10 2012, 12:16 PM

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Probably hit the top?
I could be wrong but this could be the same situation happened last 3 days when "someone" bought 40k lot at 1.27.
If see closely, "someone" bought 20k lot at 1.13 and stopped.... hmm.gif hmm.gif

roy918
post Mar 27 2012, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(lamken @ Mar 27 2012, 05:41 PM)

Omione, theres nothing to worry about in terms of the new 60million OSK warrants (JCY-CE). The only time to worry will be a few weeks just before expiry date in March 2013. Also this is a 2 for 1 deal which means OSK have hedged (collected at cheap price over the last few weeks since they pressed price down from feb 8) at least 30 million  JCY shares to pay for the warrants when it expires in march 2013. This means their ability to press price down again in March 2013 will be less then in Feb 2012 because the last warrant they issued was 1 for 1 at 80 million warrants so they had to hold min 80m JCY shares.

However, having said that, I dont think they are done playing with the price yet for at least another week or 2. So the answer to your question is no there should be no impact (once they are done playing with price over the next week or so) until march 2013.
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Do they need to hold same amount of JCY shares when they issue call warrant???

If you read the annual reports, OSK holds 7.98M JCY shares as of Jan 31st 2011 while holding 58.2M JCY shares as of Jan 31st 2012.
Meaning they increased 50M++ JCY shares within a year, when the JCY shares stuck at super low prices.
Why do they need to press down the price when their cost is way lower than current price? doh.gif doh.gif

They just need to maintain or push the mother share a little bit up for them to "transfer" all the call warrants to "new holders".
roy918
post Mar 27 2012, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(lamken @ Mar 27 2012, 09:53 PM)
Fact 1:
PC sales is lackluster, Ipad, tablet and smartphone are hot items that selling well out there.

Wrong Wrong Wrong. here are some real facts to prove that.

http://www.practicalecommerce.com/articles...-to-Exceed-PCs-

'For 2011, 364 million personal computers will be sold, says Gartner. Importantly,
468 million smartphones and 63.6 million tablets will be sold. By 2015,
Gartner estimates tablet unit sales will be 326 million, and smartphone unit sales
will be one billion. Tablet sales by 2015 are likely to roughly parallel PC sales.'
-in 2011,  364 million PCs sold as opposed to 63 million tablets.
Why border those forecast?
PCs sales is dropping year by year, new PCs including notebooks are switching to SSD (ultrabook, MPB) and SSD in the market are clearly show HDD is an old technology that going to be replaced sooner or later.

QUOTE(lamken @ Mar 27 2012, 09:20 PM)
Fact 2:
HDD price is slowly going down.

- so wheres the supporting evidence to prove this fact? how much has it fallen and at what rate will it contiune to fall? theres no doubt that HDD prices will normalise in the long run but they have not gone back to their normal levels since flood.


Isn't the price per GB dropping since few years ago (before HDD shortage)?
It is not rocket science and doesn't need evidence. Those with a bit PC knowledge know this pretty well.

QUOTE(lamken @ Mar 27 2012, 09:20 PM)
Fact 4
Share price start it upward trend around RM0.40~0.50 around Oct period, whereby Thailand flooding issue started to arise. While stock market is forward mechanism, it predicted JCY will benefit from the shutdown of HDD manufacturers in Thailand, and price may soar due to short supply, the share price did not wait until JCY reported 2000% increase in profit, only share price start to move.

- JCY did not benefit from the shutdown of HDD manufacturers in thailand. If HDD manufactuers shut down, JCywill be in deep shet. JCY benefited from the impact to its competitors who also make HDD COMPONENTS not HDD's. If the market is a "forward mechinism" ( god I love your use  of that word) then why did JCY's share price not instantly go up to 1.50 in october right after the floods? JCY's share price gradually/progessively climbed (with consisitent news of no impact, profit guidance etc) right up until Feb 8 when the  Q1 results were announced.
If not because of HDD shortage, HDD price shoot up by itself?
If HDD price does not shoot up, how JCY turned profit?
It is clearly JCY benefited from the HDD price shoot up (be it on whatever reason you want to call it).

This post has been edited by roy918: Mar 27 2012, 10:55 PM

 

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