Hi,

As media can be grab everywhere now ( Online download, online streaming, pirated, bootleg ETC ) Will you all Anime fans still will buy the original DVD? To watch or To keep! Do give me views toward this.

Thanks for your feedback over here =)

P/S : I am Malaysia Wholesales original Anime DVD provider!

This post has been edited by XeonBox: Dec 16 2009, 09:47 AM

If it got free gift, then I can consider buy.

Hi XeonBox, there is nothing worth buying the local distributed anime box. First of all the English subtitles done by the local distributor are the most lausy job I ever seen. Also the picture quality of the anime sucks. Imagine 1 DVD can store up to 25 episods. One must wonder how good is the quality of the anime.

While downloading from fansub provide the best subtitles translation and some even done by fans from Japan. Also the picture quality and sound are at the best with each episod can go up to 200MB.

The only time I have to buy local anime DVD box is when I really lazy to download from our slow Internet connection.

Only if the anime is good enough after watching the fansubs to justify importing it from the U.S. That's as original as it can get for those who only know bits and pieces of Japanese words.

if u can understand what they were talking without the sub, then u are on.

Since original DVD do come with cheesy extra's, I'd buy it.
But i wont be buying every titles i like.

*I have UFO P Valkyrie USA dvd distribution (with english audio n subs mode)
**i never had any Japanese version as of yet

there is no local anime distributor here. all u have had bought so far are bootlegged version (taiwan ver?).
n there is no original DVD that came with 1 DVD which store up to 2 seasons eps. they mostly store up to 4 eps per DVD.

b4 u made a comment bout how bad ori DVD, try learn to differentiate between ori n bootleg DVD 1st.

I wont mind paying a whole load of buck for the series I like

yes, for series that i really like, if it comes with good subtitle, and great packaging at reasonable price. i mean, something around a few hundreds is ok, but rm2000 for a box set? i wouldn't go that far.

hello mod, its just my comment and opinion, i did not say i am expert in anime or anything, this is just how i feel when buying from speedy or popular, why you get so upset about? i dont have the right to express my noob opinion in this forum? give me a break man

no man, you have to understand. theres a lot of people mistaking the local bootleg ones as "originals" and come here to gloat/brag. he just want to make sure you have it right on whats original, and whats bootleg.

those bootleg has bad video quality, low resolution and bad subs. thats all hes saying yo, no need to be mad.

if i have money i will buy it.

This will be insult to Malaysia .. Malaysian does buy the original copyright from Japan.. And the Animation talk in Japanese for almost all the Original DVD that i open and watch. But Malaysia Anime DVD will got 3 subtitles, that is Chinese, English, Malay. And Malaysia Anime DVD is rocks. Why? Cause it is region Free. Worldwide 0. It can be play in worldwide DVD player. Other country copyright owner would not provide a region free DVD. So still.. Malaysia Anime DVD have points.

i buy the DVD if i like the show very much.

no i am not mad, the mod does sound mad at me
anyway i am not expert in anime or whatever bootleg thingy
i am just saying my opinion on what ts ask whether will i buy anime box in the future
so i just saying what i feel cos all the while i been buying from speedy and popular
those anime really have bad quality of subtitles compared to the one download from fansub website
correct me if i am wrong for saying the above
no offence intended to everyone, cheers!

u have the right to express urs, but
i just corrected u bout the part u compare the sub n ur so-called original DVD is bootleg to begin with.
ur giving false information n defaming those original english distributor due to the fact u fail to differentiate between the original n bootleg DVD.

RM 2000 is exaggerated.
A combined purchase of Aria the Animation and Aria the Natural and delivered via FedEx cost me a total of USD 196.72 That would make up to around RM678. A single box set delivered via FedEx will cost less than that.

If you are buying lots of box sets, then it's a whole different story, the RM2k.

If you bothered to research, the ORIGINAL DVD or Blurays at most have 2-3 eps or maximum of 4 per volume. No such thing as 25 eps per disc.

For example, Bakemenogatari Blurays have 2 episodes each. Or Saishuu Heiki Kanojo have 1 episode per volume for 13 episodes run.

Speedy and Popular did not sell original versions, I am afraid.

someone clarify this please. We bought the "orginal copyright from japan?" Never heard of this.

For all I know there is no shop selling Original imported from Japan anime.
The english/chinese/malay subtitled anime? Bootleg for all I know.

My apology its my fault. If anyone have the time please enlighthen me what is original or bootleg thingy. Otherwise I will have to ask Mr. Google.

The boxes I bought is not original? It have sticker from goverment saying its tulen and also a local distributor name in the sticker.

I can get the sticker for free if I treat that gov. officer a nice2 oversea trip vacation or give him a big big "surprise" present consist of either 'okane' or 'onna'.

This post has been edited by Brian O'Connor: Dec 16 2009, 11:06 AM

The only Asian-produced DVD originals are the ODEX brands. Not sure about the Technogram ones though.

All others are rips. They are either:
01. Translated in-house (the ones with crappy undecipherable subs)
02. Ripped from R1 region DVDs

Don't trust the TULEN sticker. They can't differentiate originals from rips.

Kindly refer here.

no.

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Added on December 16, 2009, 11:20 amafraid to inform you, those tulen stickers, are not so tulen after all.

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Added on December 16, 2009, 11:24 amanyways to my own input to the thread, i am buying this:
http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-a7-49-en-70-33lv.html (no, its not affiliate attached, and you guys most probably wont touch this anyways considering the 4 digit price, and no free shipping LOL)

and yes, order has been placed. now pending for PA to dig it up from japan as amazon has ran dry on this. fags buying it and reselling for like 40k+ yen from the original 30k ish yen price, or 25k? amazon discounted price, ROFL! funny how most of em prolly bought it off amazon, and resell again on amazon. :/

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Dec 16 2009, 11:24 AM

Hmm can clarify more on this (the process etc)? Want to hear the distributor side of the story..

he's not that upset and he just told you about what u need to know. if u find it very offensive, that's your problem. everyone here know that the local distributor wasn't selling the original copy of the said anime directly granted from the anime studio themselves.

well refer to steno's and quaz's post. you may learn something about what is bootleg and original copy and the said LICENCE

Original anime medias carry around 2-4 episodes per disc only
Those with more than that are not original, just bootlegs with the tulen sticker, heck every tom, d*** and harry can do that

as for the price, prepare to pay a premium price for original as well. Those from S&M shopping mall and etc....naaahhhhh....

KHEDN need to do some research before giving the ori sticker to the local distributor. Local distributor on the other hand must seek permission to make the copy of some said anime legally and grant to be sold in malaysia soil

Funimation fits 6 to 7 episodes per DVD as their releases are now in 13-episode batches split between 2 DVDs. Of course, they remove all bonus materials other than trailers.

i remember buying a local "original" dvd box set of cowboy bebop. it has all 26 ep and the movie, knocking on heaven's door in one dvd. back then i dont know much about fan subs, original distributor and stuff. i rewatch the dvd recently, and it was horrible. the image quality was extremely bad, and the subs were inaccurate. it was rm50 or something like that. and thinking that i wasnt even supporting the industry but just made some ******* who didnt pay for copyright richer made me pissed.

pic or gtfo

alot of us here have bought original dvd worth 100 over ringgit. so either you show us proof or just shut up

I have bought onegai sensei madman original dvd worth 160 and it have 13 episode over 4 disc

DVD? how about Blu-ray?

fyi, i used to have more than anime dvd set that worth almost RM10k while i was in japan. If the quality can be the same as japan at least like this

then i wont complain


not only the dvd/bd are expensive even for japanese, as we for malaysian, we need to pay more than 3times than the japanese pay in term of buying power

example, lets say:
retail price of 1 tin of coke
japan: 150yen
malaysia: RM1.50
so think 100yen = RM1 for japanese

(in real life 100 Japanese yen = 3.80537559 Malaysian ringgits)
get what i mean?

we need to earn/work 3.8times harder than japanese to buy the same thing lol

wtf? kanon japanese bd with...eng subs? wtf?

Agree - I only purchase Ori when I'm head over heels with the series. It's for collection sake

Most of the DVDs sold in Petaling Street like Hero, Hong Kong Video Shop etc are bootlegs. I guess when you're looking for Ori, there's only AnimeTech.

Like others, Collection Sake. I'm sure that I'd finished watching it somewhere else LOL.

news for you brother, the one they sold at anime tech, speed, sun comic, kedai video ah seng isnt ori, its a rip off bootleg.

Another one bites the dust.

No, sorry to break it in to ya, but AnimeTech is selling bootlegs as well. All of them.

no.

Before running your mouth off and getting embarrased in the process, how about you make some research on more recent Funimation release trends first. I said Funimation, not some other studios like Madman, Nozomi, etc.

All my original animes are imported, so I know what I'm saying. Proof of my imported purchases are provided. Plus, I bought both Tokyo Majin and The Wallflower (both are Funimation releases) where 13 episodes are crammed into two discs.

I'm at my workplace, so no pics readily available but if you want verification, there's always Amazon if you actually take the effort to look it up. I only have the abovementioned proof of purchase (i.e. purchase order) with me as I always have the goods delivered to my office.

Tokyo Majin Season 1 : 2 Discs, 350 minutes (13 Ep)
Kaze no Stigma Part 1 : 2 Discs, 290 minutes (12 Ep)
The Wallflower Part 1 : 2 Discs, 325 minutes (13 Ep)

This post has been edited by Dias: Dec 16 2009, 02:34 PM


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This is so expensive if compare the one release by AnimeLF..
Is them that bad? so far my client never complain for the quality.. Shall try to buy the latest release DVD

Because your client have been deceived by fake products and never got to know how the real original DVD worth of.

wat?

yea, i do hope other japanese package can include english subs and sell worldwide...

if they include dual audio like lucky star did then localized version will be meaningless llolol

How do I pwn thread starter?

First, we look at this Bleach movie 3 that they claimed as original. It's priced at USD 7.40. Looks cheap right?

Second, we look at original Japanese release of the said movie at Amazon. Priced at 7,480 yen or about USD 83 and look at the differences. Of course it doesn't have subtitles. But that's the original stuffs from Japan. Along with the additional stuffs as well as good quality.

You think yours good and original quality? Oh, please...

It's accptable and it is sure got the copyright. And that is how it work

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Added on December 16, 2009, 3:49 pmWould Malaysian spend RM300 on a DVD?

This post has been edited by XeonBox: Dec 16 2009, 03:49 PM

Dude, If Japan did officially sold us the copyright license we would've know by now.

What proof do you have? Is your provider listed as 'authorized' distributors like Funimation or Odex?
Unless you show us they are, we're just gonna keep assuming they're bootleg.

1. Being sure isn't sufficient. Provide us with proof. Otherwise, what everyone else has said stands: your so called ori DVD is about as ori as Sader.

2. Gee, look at the fans here. Many have spent more than that on DVDs and other merchandise.

Earlier you said something along the lines of insulting Malaysia. I suggest you stop insulting our intelligence instead, unless you actually believe that what you're distributing is original, then I have nothing to say.

I will because I can. As well as the others. So what? I don't really care for the price. But I care for originality. Seriously if I can't afford, I won't buy. I know what I want and I will not support these Taiwanese or Hong Kong bootleg products. I've stopped buying pirated/bootleg products for years. So your point is moot.

My advice to you is that you go other way but not here since what you are selling is a lie.

Rich + fluffy tail fetish b@stard spotted

T_T
spice and wolf i dont think got... could be wrong though, but im buying it anyways (so long PA can dig up LOL!)

and yeah, i prefer it, even if its engrish. my basic moon language can help compensate their terribad engrish, so its kewl. and the feeling of buying original, as in, direct from japanese companies, as opposed to foreign license (like SHIT ODEX) feels that much better

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Added on December 16, 2009, 4:00 pmi dont think that is the problem here.

the problem lies in your claims of original content, and being proven to be wrong.

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Dec 16 2009, 04:00 PM

At least ODEX did it right in some sort of way. Unlike these tipu version with pelekat original.

Cause you all dont really understand what is Malaysia. The item is selling on worldwide area. Malaysia is great of his own cheap DVD. It got its copyright in Malaysia even it didnot got the worldwide copyright!

owh wow tell me more about this.. since u understand malaysia so well.

As i know Funimation also copyright some title just in USA. It can not sale out of the country too..

Their item was sold expensive.. cause their living standard is high ( Japan, korea ), currency is big ( USA and other country )

It is on their reasonable pricing, while Malaysia pricing shall be at what we can see here.. check my signature for the anime selling thread.

We are anime lovers. Not necessarily Malaysian. Having a copyright in Malaysian doesn't mean those hardworking people in Japan will receive their royalties. What gives? I don't think you really got the licenses from Japan. F no. Thank you.

The VBG definitely got the copyright and is the right owner in Malaysia!

I don't buy it. Their sources basically from Taiwan and Hong Kong. Not directly from Japan.

it seems somebody is confused on what is copyright, licenses, distribution rights, and international trades. and what is an obvious rip off

Hmm so you mean, VBG got the copyright similar to how Comics House got copyright for their published mangas? ie localization

Now you're just being silly and assertive. Terrible combination. Did you copyright that brand of stupidity in Malaysia only or is it worldwide?

sounds good

This shit is amusing... its been a while since i have witness such stupidity in such level of awesomeness...

TS, you are now against a legion of Maresia Otaku who know their stuff, by know knowing their stuff we really are F*cking know our stuff. A 13/26/52/104 episodes of crappy quality piece of shiet? no thanks

p/s: the bold word means the quality standard, wonder why some of us goes extra miles and buy it directly from the source? because we know yours is ripoff bootleg product that have absolutely NO quality. nothing... you are trying to defend a losing war... we don't need another people like you who are here just to destroy the already severe industry.

Another funny thing when I wiki-ed about that Bleach Movie 3 example, the sole world distributor for it is Toho Company Ltd. and guess what? The English version will only made available in 2010. Pffft. Nice try silly TS.

But.. Is it copyright? VBG do have some copyright direct from Japan too.. All right owner of all country does that.. The different in pricing is cause the currency problem. The video format copyright in Malaysia is always cheaper then in western country.

In Malaysia. A 25 Episod Anime normally is in 3 DVD(s) too.. This to clarify some misunderstand above. And when it is compact.. Nothing wrong to it too.. I would prefer if it can be compact and maintain the quality. I dont think the Malaysian Made Quality is that bad.

Watch out my ebay feedback for the DVD(s) recently



I never receive the complain from client who buy from funimation or odex that our malaysia Anime DVD is worst then them(s). Yet they love to buy from us cause it is nice in packaging.

when it comes with chinese subs...

its a shit-off...

no offense to chinese people (including me)

quoted FTW, not going to bother typing much since this topic has been brought up a few times now with the same conclusion

yes it is.
*munches pop corn*

You're ripping off stupid people on ebay? How do you even sleep at night?

You can choose it Display Chinese, Malay, English. Can be on/off.. Very flexible.. As you like!

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Added on December 16, 2009, 4:25 pmWhy? You think all people is stupid and only you are clever? OMG -.- Self praise and misleading. Alot of DVD import daily from Malaysia to the country like USA, UK, Australia, And ETC.. We Malaysian DVD stores has lots of choice and unlike in other country.. Is only limited titles of Anime DVD available. That's why Malaysia Boleh.. Even at Anime DVD. LOL

This post has been edited by XeonBox: Dec 16 2009, 04:25 PM

As i stated... and clearly you are too stupid to understand

When the choice of Chinese subs is/are available... 80% of the time... it comes from taiwan/hong kong... which would summarize as a bootleg product. it ain't even f*cking original, want to believe? sent an email regarding of your so called distributor to say the Japanese production...

bet me a 1000 friggin yen that they shall answer you with:
"Lol you go die"

every pun is intended

Look at here.

Products and services provided are as follows:

-Translation & Subtitling

-Audio Dubbing & Sound Effect Mixing

-Video & Audio Format Conversion

-Graphic & 3D Animation

-Audio & Video Editing

-Audio & Video Encoding

-VCD & DVD Authoring

You think only hong kong and taiwan know chinese/mandarin is it? We Malaysia Hua Ren all is copycat? OMFGGGG

Right. You still don't get it, do you? It's you who self praising with tipu products. I've given an example above yet your stubborn silly head couldn't comprehend. It's hard to knock some senses into your mind. I give up.

>Will You All Buy An Original Anime DVD to Keep or Watch?

Yes I will. In fact, I will go for the original R2s even though I know jack shit about JP language.

I prefer materials closest to the source, if I am to fork out $ for it.

Plus they have <3 extras. Those are worth paying for most of the time.

[i]now a short moment of off topic because Bakemono vol4 got delayed to Jan 2010. 2009 Christmas no feel liao. [/s]

Dont stop .. never give up.. believe in Malaysia.. Malaysia do got the copyright, right owner, 版权...

I am just got to defend the product. Since get insult from your party.
Is it never low quality. And it got a good recognise copyright cause the copyright is in Malaysia and certified by goverment. 100% Good stuffs but yet peoples still thinking the moon in foreign is more round?

TS has been injected with Malaysia Boleh attitude... too lots of it until he has become to stupid to comprehend...

WHen a shit cost you 5400yen, any f*cking where in the world... it will cost you 5400yen... say in average conversion shall cost you RM142.1052631578947. and 5400 yen is an average price of a Singles OST.

RM142 for 2 songs and 2 acoustic? thats quality and originality... you... are a joke. please hang yourself with a 2 meter bungee cord attach to a bridge tieds to your neck

This post has been edited by Yue: Dec 16 2009, 04:34 PM

Bakemonogatari 1-13 End

This what u means?

Description:
Although there are still traces of the brief period he became a vampire, third year high school student Koyomi Araragi is human again. He happens upon others with their own supernatural problems and finds that he can empathize. Koyomi becomes involved in their lives, seeking to help them and occasionally asking for advice from Meme Oshino, the homeless man who helped him become human again.

Product Detail:
Original Seal and Authentication from Malaysia Government
Region: Free (Compatible most all DVD players)
Language: Japanese
Subtitle: English, Chinese, Malay
1 DVD5 Disc [1-13 End]
Wide Screen

Malaysia GOT!! Out first.. BRB

Look XeonBox. You want us to believe that your products are original. Its very simple, show us proof. So far all you've done is INSIST that your products are original. Can't provide proof? Then don't expect us to believe you. Like Yue said, we KNOW our stuff. Oh, and ebay feedback isn't proof of originality, its just proof that many people don't know about bootlegging.

Heck, one need only walk into AnimeTech and see the tulen sticker reading 'Dragon Ball' pasted on a DVD cover full of moe girls to know that our 'original animes' are a joke.

could you please give your co name to me? i would love to pick up the phone from my office and call ministry that's involved with this matter, and i can also address this issue to the japanese embassy seeking the answer for all this nuisance.

^ isn't it not original already?

who would that be?

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Added on December 16, 2009, 4:39 pmtrue true

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Dec 16 2009, 04:39 PM

If the original DVD isn't even out in Japan yet, you think it'd be out in Malaysia? Now I'm not sure if you're just stupid, of trolling us with your 'Malaysia original' anime. Either way I'm out, this is pointless.

This post has been edited by dishwasher: Dec 16 2009, 04:42 PM

1) can buy from mareshia
2) not really, its cheap to them. just our currency sucks

Do you know what you did not understand? ONLY THE STUDIO THAT CREATED THE ANIME HAS THE COPYRIGHT FOR IT. None of others. What you should have now is DISTRIBUTION LICENSE. But in Japan, usually only its own companies that have the distribution rights. This is why we call you silly.

End of note. Enjoice your silly looking /b/ products.

This is a friggin rock f*cking solid yours is a bootleg product...

Bakemonogatari isn't haven't f*cking finish their production yet... we are at 13 out of 15 episodes, and The Original japanese distribution is only up to Volume 3, which is Suruga Monkey Arc, covering episodes 06-08.

The product you are selling is a ripoff from Television air...

YOU IS LIEEEEEEEEEEEEE

That aint original... you have prove yourself you are selling bootlegged product, now GTFO!

there are licensed taiwan stuffs, that arent bootleg. but as far as this thread goes, its pretty much bootlegs rofl

Dear XeonBox,

Bakemonogatari haven't even finished distributed in Japan itself. You're f***ing silly to say yours as original. What you have is the TV ripped version. You're a f***ing liar. Please die and have fun in Hell.

Here for additional firing from ours.
V

read my second post regarding chinese sub mon... i did wrote 80% of it...

hohoho... TS just pwned himself hard on the arse just now...

I think the picture quality is still ok if watch on tv. When watch on pc, then it's better to watch in higher quality like blueray or mkv because you sit closer to the monitor. Anime is not like movie, the graphics is not complex, no need very high quality source also can watch, I actually watched alot anime streaming online in very low quality, and I still enjoy it.

boleh bootleg alright

dude... did you know you just asking to be flamed at?

not everyone uses TVs from 1980's

Heck those downloaded HDTV rips will be of way better quality than yours

Because from an encoders point of view....naahh, lets just stop right there

After all, DVD is just 480p

This post has been edited by shinjite: Dec 16 2009, 04:56 PM

8/10
good troll attempt