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English Clubs Liverpool Football Club- The Kop Talks 2010, Stoke 1-1 Liverpool- CURSED!
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if benitez really wan to bring in VDV & RVN on loan i culd thnk somthin special wuld happen to us tis season.. FA champ maybe
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reason we struggle this season :
1. wrong player on wrong position 2. we dont have a real winger.. juz hybrid average type 3. our team keep changing player..so player cant hav a bond btwn 'em 4. rafa didnt noe how to blood in young player 5. rafa r dumb in transfer market 6. rafa afraid to take a risk & oppurtinity in every match why? 1. babel is nt a winger plus he is right footed kuyt is not a winger benny is AMF aurelio & dessena suit for wing back not a winger 2. kuyt : slow / not creative enuff / decent cross / not atk too much benny : can hold the ball but he hold too long even messi cant do tat / not creative enuff / 2yard crossing player aurelio : slow / cant dribble / only good for tactical formation like 1-2 pass / norm cross / not creative dossena : dam slow / decent cross / still not to creative & cant do anything to change the game babel : can penetrate the def but rafa juz dont like him / inconsistent riera : too decent 3. we almost win the league in 2005 & 2009,, because we stick with out team 4. example : babel / warnock / sissoko / nemeth culd be the next 5. if he fan of lucas why not juz buyin mata/silva instead of aquilani? now aquilani nid more game to gain exp juz like ppl said to lucus 2years ago or swap xabi + arbeloa = VDV / sneijder / robben 6. thus at home against suck team he still use 2DM |
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dont really underestimate spurs cz dey got a complete team unlike us.. until we gt speed & technical can beat 'em
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still i thnk maxi cant do much for us
maybe +10% of atkin creative maybe... i do hope dey can land van der vaart & nistelrooy rafa is stubborn isnt it |
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there's no possible if we wan it even stoke mad an offer for Ruud.. no way total wages of those 4guy only only 40k per week at all...
our team is completely unstable even masch struggle to make impact after upgrading his contract...dont mind sellin him to barca if he wan to.. i dunt mind we not gettin ruud cz we gt ngong can score the goal for us if giv real chance but PLEASE TAKE VAN DER VAART!!!! |
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QUOTE(kamkamparadise @ Jan 5 2010, 07:54 PM) one question spring into my mind when some of us mentioned the name Van Der Vaart. if Rafa were to buy Van der Vaart, where will Rafa play him? in ther center? Rafa got Aquilani and Lucas. Behind Torres? Gerrard position there. the only place possible is left sided as we all know Van der Vaart are quite versatile. It will be a good buy nonetheless and it will provide more option for Rafa and his squad rotation policy. ---------VDV___TORRES___KUYT________AQUAMAN____ GERRO_______ ____________LUCAS____________ INSUA___AGGER__CARRA____GLEN___ ____________PEPE______________ dunt u like tis formation? since lucas like to side pass so tis gonna suit him side left pass to aquaman side right pass to gerro stop usin winger tactic until mata & arda step to anfield This post has been edited by skeleton202: Jan 6 2010, 12:44 AM |
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i dunno why u bother to reply to ppl who obviously dunno anything
btw, to skeleton202. babel is not a winger? hes right footed? so what? do u know babel is LFC's fastest sprinter right now? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1.babel is not real winger.. he is like part time winger who is adapt to be a striker but rafa failed him..juz like henry 2.babel is right foot 3.now i see why cisse play right winger cz he's damn fckin fast & the reason why rafa brought ferrari speedy gonzalez.. hmmm speed with no brain is like ferrari with no stearing BTW it's 2006 .. guess it's the best point we can get except last season thx for correcting |
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jan 6 2010, 01:32 AM) i thnk rafa like hardwork player no lazy player in the team.. i prefer VDV instead of MAXI vdv is technical formation player maxi is technical magical player just like garcia.. i wonder how many magic he can do with us |
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QUOTE(kamkamparadise @ Jan 6 2010, 12:51 AM) a really attacking formation. Glen and insua will support the attack at both flanks. Lucas the midfield general. Aqua and Gerrard roaming around delivering ball into 6 yards area. Lucas got a lots of covering to do in this formation. if u think lucas cant do the job then change to masch..if u think mash is unstable then change to gerrard and put lucas on gerrard position if u think lucas isnt good enough in that position then just sell him.. no nid a player with no actual formation like i said b4 rafa is stubborn he shuld not sell sissoko.. now sissoko is juve fan hero it's not really atkin form actually.. we still can def.. in this case both gerro & aquaman gonna be like transformers,, both players still hav the defend ability instead of atkin minded.. so depend on team we play.. 1.if we can completely ctrl our rival then aquaman & gerro will be atkin mode to get the goal... 2.if we 50-50 againt rival then switch both to normal mode 3.if our rival likely to atk more then gerro to defensive & aquaman to atkin mode for counter atk with tis type of formation guess no more 2 DM against team like pompy This post has been edited by skeleton202: Jan 6 2010, 02:16 AM |
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jan 6 2010, 09:52 AM) On the issue of Ryan Babel being right-footed but playing on the left, so what? Joe Cole is right-footed and constantly plays from the left as did Thierry Henry earlier in his career. Philip Lahm sometimes plays on the left despite being right-footed. Jamie Carragher filled in at left-back for an entire season despite being right-footed. Football these days isn't as clear cut. You don't need a left-footed player on the left, whipping crosses in for tall centreforwards to attack. These days the ball is played on the ground more. Often you see wingers swap wings to add another dimension to the attack allowing them to cut in more especially if you aren't strong in the air. hmmm some player r gifted with two leg capability altough he got prefered foot & some player is only one foot active capability,, babel might be one of those.. just try putting aurelio on right i'm sure he cant made norm cross like he did in left side or maybe he can only make inside curve cross which is hard for striker to heading since the ball is crossing toward the goal... most of our team r 1footed specialist...as a fact, player who right foot playin left side or vice versa mostly use for scoring winger since he got nice angle to score a goal.. tis wat henry was before he be striker & why benitez try to do to babel but benitez juz put him there just too long.. swapping winger is only for a team who got well bonded winger not like us.. just like Cole + Duff / Robben when in Chelski.. dey both got pace & technic which is not argument at all.. searching for player how cut in the def line is hard nowaday since dey all in big team already.. only lavezzi the chance to take but after WC wonder we still cn gt him or not.. ------------------------------------------------------------ about sissoko , i do think he can keep the ball cz he got bravery unlike lucas this is why i like him.. BRAVERY.. his pass r suck but pass can be improved by exp.. but bravery cant be improved it depend on the player viera shine at arsenal why not sissoko ? nowaday it's not bout italian / spanish / english football.. the important is get the right player on the right tactic on the right position .. long ago my fren said torres wuld be failed at liv cz spanish league is different & he put morientes as an example.. now i wonder if he ever said tat again to me.. This post has been edited by skeleton202: Jan 6 2010, 10:38 AM |
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QUOTE(azrulkamal240 @ Jan 6 2010, 11:03 AM) Aurelio cannot cross on right side? u sure or not bro??? i thought Ngog's goal against Wigan is through Aurelio cross from the right side??? oh tat one only? i expect him to do it again against a better team and not to forget Aurelio's goal against manyur last season is a nice free kick from the right side too.. IMO, babel is a good player, but he is selfish.. much more sellfish than C.Ronaldo.. if he can super dribble like ronaldo then i dun mind, but he always lost our ball possesion to our opponents becos of his stupid dribbling.. btw, u better watch again on how babel played. Rafa also already gave chances to babel to play in striker position which he failed to shine although he did scored some great goals for us.. I think u skeleton202 are getting influence by FM2008 la... face the reality bro... babel is useless for us.. accept the fact pls... Added on January 6, 2010, 11:05 am Dun forget to include our Mr. Duracell in your formation... His hard workrate is really crucial for our team.. kuyt cannot be left out from this team... Hail Dirk Kuyt!!! like i said if ur right footed & set in left side u'll get more chance to score a goal because of the angle.. this is wat happen to aurelio when he score the goal... i not FM fan actually cz i'm playin fifa ------------------------ guess the kuyt not my problem |
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jan 6 2010, 11:25 AM) You are right assuming that the only purpose wingers serve is to play crosses. How did Ronaldo manage so many goals for Man Utd then? 1. if u realise ronaldo just change his playing style from dribbler to scorer since 2006-2007 .. he rarely create chance for teammate thus his teammate create chance for him.. his dribbling look cautious too since then not like before Yes this is a fact. I see no harm in playing a right-footed player on the left because these days, fullbacks get forward a whole lot more to join in the attack. When a team is pushing forward, fullbacks act almost as wingers. With wingers cutting in, it gives fullbacks more players to aim for when playing a cross. With defensive midfielders playing a prominant role in today's game, often, forwards are outnumbered in the box, hence the importance of having your wingers in the box as well. One winger I remember who timed his runs into the box very well was a certain Freddie Ljungberg. What do you mean by "well bonded"? Why do they have to be "well bonded" to swap wings? 2. hmmm.. during ljunberg time arsenal got pires on the other side which is great in controling the ball & good pace & good pass & good cross & good vision.. this is called a real winger.. havin tis type of player will give him space to dash forward.. with good pace of SB dey can help to cover the side to give extra option.. if no good winger like pires i not really think ljunberg will do tat great... then again all of these are hard to do for us.. if we hav ribery on right i might think babel gonna be better than ljunberg.. we just dont hav a good winger actually 3. in real football it's hard to do tat if both winger didnt understand each other.. dunt think it easy as in PES set change side tactic then ur player change side.. in real life u nid right timing to swap.. if swap frequently than ur opponent might realize & it'll rubbish.. if u swap rarely then it wont effective.. if swap while other winger not realize then will be 2 winger in left & 0 in right & ur right post got hole.. swap wing actually really gud against team who like marking player.. tis wil make rival will lose their position cz of markin & give chance the SB to dash forward to give a cross... |
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QUOTE(azrulkamal240 @ Jan 6 2010, 11:52 AM) Pacheco is a good dribbler and he is a team player too if u watched him played la. he is a good example for a young player with a lot of potential and dun need 1-2 season to make him stronger, what he need now is just to be place in regular 1st team. babel already being plenty of chances by rafa but he screwed it up... and dun forget none of managers in this world like his players who always complaint this n that. Pacheco is really good dribbler but i not sure wat he gonna be under rafa management.. rafa didnt noe how to refine youngster.. at 1st i tot nemeth was a whizkid but after seeing him loan to aek it kinda confusing me that at 21age still didnt gt team chance.. guess he gonna be normal talent not wonder kid.. most wonderkid got 1st team play at early age of 18/19.. tats y i'm guessin pacheco gonna be normal talent or wonder kid we can get either silva/mata or any other wingers, but it's about financial burden that stop rafa's desirer from buying those good players.. u have to understand that situation bro.. different view from me about Lucas, i see a lot potential from him and i believe he will be a very good midfielder 1 day.. people can see who got potential or not.. i bet u babel will not going anywhere but nothing although he play for others club after this, 1 reason; he is selfish n greedy.. dun mind if the player is selfish like ronaldo or henry etc, but not silly as babel becos he looks like a crazy wild boar (suka2 mau sondol tak kira tempat). if u keep 11m pocket for babel & plus with 20m on keane transfer i do think we hav enough chance to secure the deal... like i said it's hard to train a dribbler to be a great one if dey keep missing juz accept it not to blame it.. greedy is a must for scorer if not dey gonna be mr heskey babel look silly like stupid retard wild crazy dam ugly big-nose boar cz he's always play under pressure.. i noe rafa type.. when he dont the like the player ,he gonna put 'em into trap until the player frustated to play & rafa stated 'em not good enough / not fit to out formation / cant score any goal . so rafa will sell those player i think lucas / guthrie / spearing gonna get better if got real chance.. from wat i expect thse kids gonna be : spearing = agility midfielder guthrie = technical midfielder lucas = 50-50 of those two --------------------------------- bravery is like an original ability from a player.. some player juz too afraid to make a tackle bcos afraid get risk by injury & got a red card.. time by time passing skill can improved slowly just like ronaldo scoring goal for ManuR.. look here isit his goal increasing except the last season ronaldo goal list all u hav to do is keep ur player & hav faith then ur player will serve for his best until real madrid offered a contract This post has been edited by skeleton202: Jan 6 2010, 12:35 PM |
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QUOTE(nshady @ Jan 6 2010, 04:29 PM) Franck Ribery, Robinho, CR, Iniesta, Arshavin are all right-footed players who play on the left side of midfield. Don't have to be a left-footed to be a good left midfielder/wing. Messi is a left-footed player who plays on the right. =x Lahm is comfortable playing on the left for bayern, he moves forward, turns into centre and shoot with his right-foot. hmmm some player r gifted 2leg functional like ribery / ronaldo .. these kind of player able to control both feet perfectly .. which i said tat our team didnt hav tat kind of gem... most our player r sux on their weak foot & almost cant control at all.. if u right foot playin on left is hard to cross the ball unless u wanna score the goaljust like i explained before.. player who left foot playin on right side is more capable toward scoring instead of crossing.. messi / arshavin / robinho which right foot play for left to get more scoring edge tis is wat i state tat rafa wan use on babel but he just failed it.. guess ppl not read thoroughly & just keep blaming |
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Jan 6 2010, 11:32 AM) 2006?FFS, it's ok to be ignorant in some matters but not all.I already told you, we finished 3rd 2006 with 9 points behind Champion and that time Rafa rotates his squad like mad coach.Since when he STICK with the same team in 2006? SINCE WHEN? EPL 05/06U know nuts about the club and u obviously know nuts about sissoko issue.After his eyes were injured, his form dipped and with the arrival of Mascherano and the need of fund to pay for Mascherano's deal, we have no choice but to sell him.Stop moaning over something already done and dusted.Are you going to cry like baby because we lost Arbeloa, Garcia, Alonso and others? 04/05 - 40 05/06 - 9 <--- isnt our 2nd best point we can collected before last season.. we didnt make huge change on team 06/07 -21 <-- rafa start usin rotation 07/08 - 11 <-- ppl start questioning rafa on his policy 08/09 - 4 <--- we dont make huge change in 11team 09/10 - ? who knows guess it might detailed u ----------------------------------------------------- dipped form is norm for player after injury... need to refund on masch then again bought lucas.. i'm not cry i'm juz blaming rafa on his fckoong retard noob in his transfer policy,, |
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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ Jan 6 2010, 11:22 PM) Perhaps the boss' principle is that if you have the right attitude and show it, you will be rewarded with game time. Which is why -although the extent of this being applied is questionable - players like Kuyt, Carragher and Lucas shine under Rafa. With Nemeth you have to understand that we also have Voronin, Kuyt and Ngog who are all adequate backup and competing for the first-team spots. I guess Rafa sees Ngog as a better backup than Nemeth (Considering his advantage in physiques alone against PL teams) and thus sent out Nemeth on loan. It was the right choice though as Ngog repaid with a good scoring record but I hope we don't lose Nemeth as a result. As for Pacheco, I'm keeping my fingers crossed he will be our next wonderkid. Added on January 6, 2010, 11:29 pm If you're right-footed playing left side, your natural instincts would be to cut into the box rather than crossing the ball. I think Rafa wants to develop Babel into an all rounder who could drop back or drift wide when needed but it hasn't come to fruition. Imagine what a player he whould've been playing with Torres upfront. A missed opportunity for him really. Added on January 6, 2010, 11:31 pm 2.winger nowaday got two type : traditional one : dribble the ball & cross > right foot on right side modern one : cutting thru the box & create chance > left foot on right side rafa usin babel on modern one but it seem it just a failure after all.. thats why i wanna urge benitez to use him on right wether he can be good or not.. but then agaiin ppl just keep sayin joe cole / messi / boumsong / bramble which right foot play left side forward foot playin backside... hmmmm |
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Jan 6 2010, 11:56 PM) I don't consider 9 points behind as CLOSE to winning league title and Rafa started rotating his squad since 1st day.I stick with what I said about squad rotating in 05/06 1. at least it positive point compare to 04/05 season Yea, feck Rafa for his noob transfer policy. Who the heck is Reina anyway? Lazy to name the rest but you can guess it.The likes of Arbeloa, Agger, Mascherano, Torres, Benayoun, Insua are all flops.We should have get Gerard Houlier back and sign a couple of Cisse, another couple of Le Tallec, a few Pongolle and hailed GH like GOD! 2. Player From Fee Date Josemi Rey Malaga £2,000,000 26.07.2004 Antonio Nunez Real Madrid £1,500,000* 17.08.2004 Xabi Alonso Real Sociedad £10,700,000 20.08.2004 Luis Garcia Barcelona £6,000,000 20.08.2004 Mauricio Pellegrino Valencia Free 05.01.2005 Fernando Morientes Real Madrid £6,300,000 13.01.2005 Scott Carson Leeds United £1,000,000 21.01.2005 Boudewijn Zenden Free Transfer Free* 04.07.2005 Jose Reina Villareal £6,000,000 04.07.2005 Antonio Barragan Sevilla £240,000 04.07.2005 Mohamed Sissoko Valencia £5,600,000 14.07.2005 Peter Crouch Southampton £7,000,000 20.07.2005 Miki Roque Lleida Unknown 15.08.2005 Jack Hobbs Lincoln City £150,000* 18.08.2005 Besian Idrizaj LASK Linz £190,000* 22.08.2005 Mark Gonzalez Albacete £1,500,000* 20.10.2005 Paul Anderson Hull City Player Exchange* 01.01.2006 Jan Kromkamp Villareal Player Exchange* 04.01.2006 David Martin MK Dons £250,000* 12.01.2006 Daniel Agger Brøndby £5,800,000 12.01.2006 Robbie Fowler Man City Free 27.01.2006 Craig Bellamy Blackburn £6,000,000 01.07.2006 Gabriel Paletta Club Atlético Banfield £2,000,000 04.07.2006 Fábio Aurélio Valencia Free 05.07.2006 Jermaine Pennant Birmingham £6,700,000 26.07.2006 Dirk Kuyt Feyenoord £9,000,000 18.08.2006 Nabil El Zhar St Etienne £200,000 21.08.2006 Astrit Ajdarevic Falkenberg £750,000 11.01.2007 Daniele Padelli Sampdoria On Loan* 12.01.2007 Jordy Brouwer Ajax Undisclosed* 24.01.2007 Francisco Durán Malaga £66,000* 30.01.2007 Álvaro Arbeloa Deportivo £2,500,000 31.01.2007 Javier Mascherano West Ham On Loan 20.02.2007 Lucas Leiva Gremio £5,000,000 11.05.2007 Krisztián Németh MTK Hungaria Undisclosed 25.05.2007 Mikel San José Domínguez Athletic Bilbao £270,000 28.06.2007 Sebastian Leto Club Atlético Lanús £1,800,000 01.07.2007 Fernando Torres Atletico Madrid £20,200,000 04.07.2007 Andriy Voronin Leverkusen Free* 06.07.2007 Yossi Benayoun West Ham £5,000,000 12.07.2007 Ryan Babel Ajax £11,500,000 13.07.2007 Charles Itandje Lens Undisclosed 09.08.2007 Emiliano Insúa Boca Juniors £1,300,000* 26.08.2007 Martin Skrtel Zenit St Petersburg £6,500,000 11.01.2008 Javier Mascherano Media Sports Investment £18,600,000* 29.02.2008 Philipp Degen Dortmund Free* 03.07.2008 Andrea Dossena Udinese £7,000,000 04.07.2008 Diego Cavalieri Palmeiras £3,500,000 11.07.2008 David N'Gog Paris St Germain £1,500,000 24.07.2008 Robbie Keane Tottenham £19,000,000 28.07.2008 Albert Riera Espanyol £8,000,000 31.08.2008 Glen Johnson Portsmouth £17,500,000 26.06.2009 Alberto Aquilani AS Roma £17,100,000* 07.08.2009 Sotirios Kyrgiakos AEK Athens £2,000,000 21.08.2009 Daniel Ayala Sevilla £160,000 17.09.2009 Rafael Benítez bought 55 players for £228,976,000 WOW too many flop.. almost cant see where's torres located lazy to mark success player since to many on list This post has been edited by skeleton202: Jan 7 2010, 12:12 AM |
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jan 7 2010, 12:12 AM) why dont u put ur maths to good use and total up the costs of the flops only? rafa transferlets see if it even reaches 50m? total £228,976,000 i remove the star player Xabi Alonso £10,700,000 garcia £6,000,000 reina £6,000,000 sissoko(?) £5,600,000 crouch(?) £7,000,000 agger £5,800,000 kuyt £9,000,000 arbeloa £2,500,000 leiva £5,000,000 torres £20,200,000 benny £5,000,000 macsh £18,600,000 keane £19,000,000 glen £17,500,000 aquaman £17,100,000 skirtel £6,500,000 ----------------------- 161,500,000 228,976,000 - 161,500,000 = 67,476,000 enough to buy a few graded player Added on January 7, 2010, 12:17 am QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ Jan 7 2010, 12:14 AM) Yes that came from the left but you'll be hard-pressed to find another standout non-super sub performance from Babel. i just edit the post.. not sayin masch is flop.. just lazy search the player & mark it You failed to highlight Mascherano, is he a flop too? This post has been edited by skeleton202: Jan 7 2010, 12:33 AM |
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