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TSeleshoe
post Dec 4 2009, 09:10 AM, updated 16y ago

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Ok guys, no intention to start any flames here, just to share something i saw on the net on the analysis of PS3 and Xbox360.

Round 1: Controller


Rounds 2 & 3: Hardware


Round 4: CPU


Round 5: GPU


Round 6: User Interface

Round 7: Online Experience

Round 8: Media playback

Round 9: Multi-Platform Games

Round 10: Exclusive Games (Part 1)


Round 10: Exclusive Games (Part 2)


Round 11: The Future

Round 12: The Finale


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post Dec 4 2009, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(eleshoe @ Dec 4 2009, 09:10 AM)
Ok guys, no intention to start any flames here, just to share something i saw on the net on the analysis of PS3 and Xbox360.





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these are all good information

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PS3 has Bluray and Xbox don't. `Nuff said
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post Dec 4 2009, 11:12 AM

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This topic will end up with PS3 vs. XBOX 360 flaming war, sooner or later, anyway sweat.gif
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post Dec 4 2009, 11:16 AM

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The only difference that matters to me..
Blu ray Vs No Blu Bray
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post Dec 4 2009, 11:25 AM

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So the media is more important than gaming experience for gaming consoles? hmm.gif
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post Dec 4 2009, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Dec 4 2009, 11:25 AM)
So the media is more important than gaming experience for gaming consoles? hmm.gif
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post Dec 4 2009, 11:47 AM

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from practicality
Xbox 360 -
the placement of HDMI port which is next to the AV out is plain stupid, obviously MS didn't plan for it in the first place, but became kiasu after PS3 came with it on day one
no Wifi inbuilt, perhaps MS should plan this in their next SKU, c'on lar, don't say you don't need Wifi thesedays, even RM700 phone got Wifi already

honestly solely from the hardware POV, Xbox 360 already lose from the start

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post Dec 4 2009, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Dec 4 2009, 11:47 AM)
from practicality
Xbox 360 -
the placement of HDMI port which is next to the AV out is plain stupid, obviously MS didn't plan for it in the first place, but became kiasu after PS3 came with it on day one
no Wifi inbuilt, perhaps MS should plan this in their next SKU, c'on lar, don't say you don't need Wifi thesedays, even RM700 phone got Wifi already

honestly solely from the hardware POV, Xbox 360 already lose from the start
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That's because they want to make extra bucks from selling their ridiculously overpriced accessories shakehead.gif
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post Dec 4 2009, 12:14 PM

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wii win...if talking about game la...not graphic..
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post Dec 4 2009, 12:27 PM

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wii is so tiring to play sweat.gif
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post Dec 4 2009, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Dec 4 2009, 12:27 PM)
wii is so tiring to play sweat.gif
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post Dec 4 2009, 06:44 PM

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loss weight also icon_idea.gif
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post Dec 4 2009, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(lvd @ Dec 4 2009, 12:14 PM)
wii win...if talking about game la...not graphic..
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lol, Wii sucks.

i sit down/lie down play console alsso can tired.

Wii stand up? 1 hour tired liao, how to enjoy~
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post Dec 5 2009, 12:11 AM

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Xbox 360 much more famous here coz can play pirate..pirate and more pirate. Mentality pun become pirate. Dun give me excuse like "im an offline player,so can pirate"

Dun justify pirates FFS!!!


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post Dec 5 2009, 09:53 AM

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WII for grandma to play
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post Dec 6 2009, 02:01 PM

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grandpa also can sweat.gif
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nah! grandpa read newspaper and complain about the world.. thats all
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post Dec 7 2009, 10:13 AM

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nah! grandpa read newspaper and complain about the world.. thats all
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post Dec 7 2009, 10:22 AM

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in terms of hardware ps3 win la,but now like the tides has changed and ps3 is shining wih new exclusives cant wait for GOW3 podewin
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post Dec 7 2009, 02:37 PM

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zzzzz.... please wake me up when this is over.

by the time you guys decide which is betta, i will have enjoyed my gaming 100 times over.

out.
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QUOTE(thurtin @ Dec 7 2009, 03:37 PM)
zzzzz.... please wake me up when this is over.

by the time you guys decide which is betta, i will have enjoyed my gaming 100 times over.

out.
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i agreed. Instead of going for the consoles, go for the games you want to play and get the console related to it.
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post Dec 7 2009, 07:27 PM

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then comes the confusing part, many games are multiplatform nowadays, for eg, RE5, AC2, Dirt2, which platform to go for?

2009 is the year where many fantastic PS3 exclusives come out, Killzone 2, Infamous, Uncharted 2, etc, all scored at least 9.0 in Gamespot.

while Xbox 360 what exclusive have they got, aside from the Halo and GOW franchise

MS really need to push for their console exclusives in order to maintain competitiveness , ain't they got many money to purchase more developers?


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post Dec 8 2009, 08:53 AM

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Round 4 and 5 added.
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post Dec 8 2009, 01:18 PM

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What I like about Sony approach is that they intended PS3 to be made for 10 years to come. Blu-ray, wifi, etc.

Xbox....just innit for the cash.
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post Dec 8 2009, 01:36 PM

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It's obvious when you have two consoles to do the comparison. Try and have a look at the AV port and the HDMI port. I made a fair conclusion from there.
You may want to have a look at the wireless controller too. If you are smart, you ought to find the answer.

Regards, Joey

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post Dec 8 2009, 05:06 PM

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I have X360 but I want PS3 also... sigh no money
both are good video game consoles and I want them both....by d way, Microsoft sucks. X360 is one money sucking consoles, have to pay for Gold membership is just plain suck -sucking what is left in my pocket... damn
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xbox 360 owner here.
agreed with doomHammer. The fact that we had to pay for Gold Memberships is a minus for 360.
another minus -
1 - sound quality for movie is not that great. Max out my speaker, actors script sounds very low, when it comes to action ( explosion, accident etc, ), all out of sudden, it becomes so loud.
2 - the harddisk. Have to use microsoft harddisk, not like ps3 where just need to buy 2'5 inch hdd.

Else, it's a good machine. as for the wifi, it's kinda good tho, u have options as to choose which wifi modem for your xbox. I bought one from Pelican, it cost me half the price.
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QUOTE(DoomHammer @ Dec 8 2009, 05:06 PM)
I have X360 but I want PS3 also... sigh no money
both are good video game consoles and I want them both....by d way, Microsoft sucks. X360 is one money sucking consoles, have to pay for Gold membership is just plain suck -sucking what is left in my pocket... damn
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Online gaming on PS3 free... whistling.gif
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Both console are great. Get both guyz..
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QUOTE(minimize @ Dec 13 2009, 09:06 PM)
Both console are great. Get both guyz..
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You buy for us la.. whistling.gif
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Watched all 5 of it, can't really comment on the controllers (round 1) because I don't have XBOX360

But the rest are all spot on
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post Dec 14 2009, 01:20 AM

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They never mention Xbox controller Dpad and slippery analog (wait until ur hand sweaty)
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post Dec 14 2009, 01:45 AM

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hahaha.. 2010 might not be a good year for Xbox 360
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post Dec 14 2009, 07:51 PM

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lucky i got both..
ps3 - i use it just to play divx movies since i just use usb and play it on my crt tv.
xbox360 - i use it to play games since the games is cheap.

i'm a happy gamer. more cash to spend on anything else.. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(minimize @ Dec 13 2009, 09:06 PM)
Both console are great. Get both guyz..
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post Dec 14 2009, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(eleshoe @ Dec 8 2009, 08:53 AM)
Round 4 and 5 added.
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seriously, what is the objective of opening this kind of thread?

Its a purely a waste of bandwith.

Only losers that cant decide , or dont have the balls do this kind of things.
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fuhh...
always make me happy
seeing more boy day after day

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post Dec 15 2009, 01:27 AM

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I owned both >.< yea! thumbup.gif
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post Dec 15 2009, 07:54 AM

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QUOTE(thurtin @ Dec 7 2009, 02:37 PM)
zzzzz.... please wake me up when this is over.

by the time you guys decide which is betta, i will have enjoyed my gaming 100 times over.

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i'm afraid u will not wake up....EVER laugh.gif
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post Dec 15 2009, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(snipersnake @ Dec 14 2009, 09:59 PM)
seriously, what is the objective of opening this kind of thread?

Its a purely a waste of bandwith.

Only losers that cant decide , or dont have the balls do this kind of things.
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The objective is simple, information sharing.
It is up to individual to interpret it, whether you like information or not, it's all up to you.
But calling people losers and don't have balls is just not right.
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post Dec 15 2009, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(eleshoe @ Dec 15 2009, 12:53 PM)
The objective is simple, information sharing.
It is up to individual to interpret it, whether you like information or not, it's all up to you.
But calling people losers and don't have balls is just not right.
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seriously.

we can get this 'information' you speaketh of, from this thing called the Internets.
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QUOTE(snipersnake @ Dec 15 2009, 10:22 PM)
seriously.

we can get this 'information' you speaketh of, from this thing called the Internets.
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+1 nod.gif

or just don't be shy and go to any game shops endorsed by LYNians n give em a trial run.
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QUOTE(snipersnake @ Dec 15 2009, 10:22 PM)
seriously.

we can get this 'information' you speaketh of, from this thing called the Internets.
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Different people go different places for information, if we all come to the one place i think it will be more convenient for a lot of people.
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post Dec 16 2009, 01:38 PM

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the analysis is neutral, the video creator have included enough info to be fair for both platforms, so.. leave it be

no matter how hard a fanboy trying to stir up flames, a fact still remains a fact
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Relax guys, no harm with information sharing as long as it doesn't screw with the facts. nod.gif
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Different people go different places for information, if we all come to the one place i think it will be more convenient for a lot of people.
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agree with u icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(snipersnake @ Dec 15 2009, 10:22 PM)
seriously.

we can get this 'information' you speaketh of, from this thing called the Internets.
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lol...aren't we on the Internet now?
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post Dec 20 2009, 12:12 PM

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I agree that ps3 is more powerful and that doesn't means it's good.
I agree that xbox 360 is better on online gaming and that doesn't means it's good.


We should really just play games than fighting over . Cons and pros and it'll never end the war. JUST PLAY GAMES =D
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QUOTE(msn83235502 @ Dec 14 2009, 07:51 PM)
lucky i got both..
ps3 - i use it just to play divx movies since i just use usb and play it on my crt tv.
xbox360 - i use it to play games since the games is cheap.

i'm a happy gamer. more cash to spend on anything else.. laugh.gif
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haahaa..bought both of it..solve the prob laugh.gif

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o.O I thought both console only available with ORI games? Thats why i giving up to purchase either 1. Correct me if i wrong.
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Round 6: http://www.technobuffalo.com/blog/gaming/c...-user-interface
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GOW got on XBOX arr?? if no better i buy ps3
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QUOTE(bob_afdlin @ Dec 26 2009, 05:53 PM)
GOW got on XBOX arr?? if no better i buy ps3
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QUOTE(samus_ng @ Dec 26 2009, 05:48 PM)
Thank you. Added.
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YLOD=Yellow Line Of Death=PS3
RROD=Red Ring Of Death=Xbox360

Both of them have its own problems,both of them is bought by me.
But the 360,meninggal dulu la...PS3 is still healthy for 12 months.
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i dont have neither but plan to buy one for my kids.
i found information here is useful for me, the beginner of beginners.
Thank you very much for sharing. Which one cheaper?
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QUOTE(mroys@lyn @ Dec 30 2009, 07:39 AM)
i dont have neither but plan to buy one for my kids.
i found information here is useful for me, the beginner of beginners.
Thank you very much for sharing. Which one cheaper?
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ps3 rolleyes.gif ...i think so
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PS3 is more powerful, but Sony intentionally made the console hardware difficult for programmers.
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QUOTE(Aggroboy @ Jan 1 2010, 10:40 AM)
PS3 is more powerful, but Sony intentionally made the console hardware difficult for programmers.
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how u know its intentionally
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nice information..smile.gif this make me understand more about my console..thanks TS smile.gif
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=383982 PS3 cracked.
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QUOTE(esca_flo @ Jan 5 2010, 03:26 PM)
Its NeoGAF rolleyes.gif
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/me also owned both consoles.I buy PS3 for the sake of MGS4 and buy 360 for the sake of Gears Of War(best game ever!! thumbup.gif ).Planned to buy Wii but the problem is when I played at my friend's house, my hand become tired and some more I have to sit or stand up to play the game(fyi, I usually lie down while playing coz too tired after got back from work).

Will think it again on buying Wii if Fatal Frame 4 coming on English version.
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QUOTE(Aggroboy @ Jan 1 2010, 10:40 AM)
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LOL.

Yeah right.

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The funny side of the comparison.



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Boils down to personal preference ,

I have both machines , somehow , I still prefer the xbox , the way the market place is set up is great , miles better than the PS store .

I notice that the fanboi ' sickness ' is wildly rampant in the Playstation subforum compared to the Xbox subforum .

Love uncharted 2 , hate the gt5 demo , love forza 3 , hate race pro .

same same lah .. if talking about blu-ray , why not just go ahead and buy a blu ray player

one thing that sucks about both

can't play my damn mkv's !
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same same lah .. if talking about blu-ray , why not just go ahead and buy a blu ray player
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blu ray player no wifi.
not all of us have a modem in the same room as the blu ray player.
and pulling an ethernet cable from the 2nd floor to the living room is ridiculous
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but then wifi signal strength would also be affected wouldn't it
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but then wifi signal strength would also be affected wouldn't it
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it's fine for me,both in my room and in the living room.

the wireless router is in the master bedroom above the living room.
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QUOTE(gavind87 @ Jan 7 2010, 08:24 PM)
Boils down to personal preference ,

I have both machines , somehow , I still prefer the xbox , the way the market place is set up is great , miles better than the PS store .

I notice that the fanboi ' sickness ' is wildly rampant in the Playstation subforum compared to the Xbox subforum .

Love uncharted 2 , hate the gt5 demo , love forza 3 , hate race pro .

same same lah .. if talking about blu-ray , why not just go ahead and buy a blu ray player

one thing that sucks about both

can't play my damn mkv's !
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Everyone knows the PS3 is a perfect machine, why compare? mad.gif

If there's anything that's not so perfect about PS3 it's because Sony had intentionally made it so so it can last for 10 years, they announced it even before the PS3 was launch!
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QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Jan 8 2010, 02:56 PM)
Everyone knows the PS3 is a perfect machine, why compare? mad.gif

If there's anything that's not so perfect about PS3 it's because Sony had intentionally made it so so it can last for 10 years, they announced it even before the PS3 was launch!
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QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Jan 8 2010, 02:56 PM)
Everyone knows the PS3 is a perfect machine, why compare? mad.gif

If there's anything that's not so perfect about PS3 it's because Sony had intentionally made it so so it can last for 10 years, they announced it even before the PS3 was launch!
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Yup , Love the statement " PS3 is a perfect machine "... rclxms.gif
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Both PS3 and Xbox have their pro and cons.Including Wii too.I love my PS3 and XBox and I had much fun when playing either both of them.So to me their both perfect.
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the best still snes. a lot of classic moments together. still remember the sweat generated fighting mbison for the first time in sf2.
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I use my XBOX360 to play those multi-platform games and the PS3 solely for PS3 exclusive games.

Recently the PS3 have some really fantastic games. Uncharted 2 is the best game I ever play and the graphics is just drop dead gorgeous. I can wait for GOW3 to release.


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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Jan 10 2010, 01:20 AM)
I use my XBOX360 to play those multi-platform games and the PS3 solely for PS3 exclusive games. 

Recently the PS3 have some really fantastic games.  Uncharted 2 is the best game I ever play and the graphics is just drop dead gorgeous.  I can wait for GOW3 to release.
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still need compare?
PS3 can use 10 years<---it oledi been prove, why?
just see PS2, you will know



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QUOTE(lsn @ Jan 10 2010, 05:33 PM)
still need compare?
PS3 can use 10 years<---it oledi been prove, why?
just see PS2, you will know
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PS2 last 10 years because of its games.

PS3 last 10 years because Sony develops consoles for a 10 year life cycle whistling.gif


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QUOTE(snipersnake @ Jan 9 2010, 11:20 AM)
the best still snes. a lot of classic moments together. still remember the sweat generated fighting mbison for the first time in sf2.
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snes got metal gear? if not, tak best lah laugh.gif
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QUOTE(PhoenixByte @ Jan 10 2010, 11:00 PM)
snes got metal gear? if not, tak best lah  laugh.gif
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snes got metal gear? if not, tak best lah  laugh.gif
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see, PS3 just the best console la, no need think so much
metal gear solid 4 sales just beat halo, mario, zelda in world
just get ps3 and feel fun


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All hail almighty PS3 notworthy.gif
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All hail almighty PS3 notworthy.gif
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agree what you saying
let me tell you why ps3 almighty than other console

- can watch blu ray movie
- can emulate earth
- have 10 year life cycle
- they got Ken Kutaragi & Hirai Kazuo
- "Free" PSN service
- best online communicate platform - PS HOME
- many and many exclusive game like Haze, Lair etc
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QUOTE(lsn @ Jan 11 2010, 06:19 PM)
agree what you saying
let me tell you why ps3 almighty than other console

- can watch blu ray movie
- can emulate earth
- have 10 year life cycle
- they got Ken Kutaragi & Hirai Kazuo
- "Free" PSN service
- best online communicate platform - PS HOME
- many and many exclusive game like Haze, Lair etc
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Ur friend said one, right ??? laugh.gif laugh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

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QUOTE(lsn @ Jan 11 2010, 06:19 PM)
agree what you saying
let me tell you why ps3 almighty than other console

- can watch blu ray movie
- can emulate earth
- have 10 year life cycle
- they got Ken Kutaragi & Hirai Kazuo
- "Free" PSN service
- best online communicate platform - PS HOME
- many and many exclusive game like Haze, Lair etc
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One more thing you forgot to mention ! PS3 the only 1 console educate gamers to play Original Games tongue.gif .
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QUOTE(snipersnake @ Jan 9 2010, 11:20 AM)
the best still snes. a lot of classic moments together. still remember the sweat generated fighting mbison for the first time in sf2.
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i have to agree with sniper about this. the SNES was one of the coolest and really thoroughly enjoyed system for me. especially for SF2. I HATE VEGA (m.bison for some) BUGGER! and balrog (i guess vega...in the other edition).... i still play SF2 on my psp. and also the old dragon ball z game. so nostalgic to tiup dust out of the cartridge.

not the same feeling as wiping the disc. i wonder if cartrige games will ever come back tongue.gif i guess to expensive to make them.

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QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Jan 11 2010, 05:38 PM)
All hail almighty PS3 notworthy.gif
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One more thing you forgot to mention ! PS3 the only 1 console educate gamers to play Original Games  tongue.gif .
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Ur friend said one, right ??? laugh.gif  laugh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
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QUOTE(kyap @ Jan 12 2010, 01:35 PM)
One more thing you forgot to mention ! PS3 the only 1 console educate gamers to play Original Games  tongue.gif .
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xbox also mah, if u play online with pirated disc, once m$ detect it, they ll send u to ban island forever, that time, have to buy another xbox console and original games whistling.gif

what worse is, sometimes they ban the innocent ppl too whistling.gif

PSN never ban ppl.. not at the time of this post
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fake blu-ray shouldn't be that far off
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After i touch it, smell it, lick it....i feel that my PS3 are the best one... this is how i analysis it. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(gavind87 @ Jan 15 2010, 02:56 AM)
fake blu-ray shouldn't be that far off
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already got fake blu ray mah. or are you talking about fake blue ray games and mod chip to mod your ps3. aint no way in hell am i modding my ps3.

QUOTE(nakata101 @ Jan 15 2010, 07:50 AM)
After i touch it, smell it, lick it....i feel that my PS3 are the best one... this is how i analysis it.  biggrin.gif
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nais~ thumbup.gif


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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Jan 14 2010, 08:25 PM)
xbox also mah, if u play online with pirated disc, once m$ detect it, they ll send u to ban island forever, that time, have to buy another xbox console and original games whistling.gif

what worse is, sometimes they ban the innocent ppl too whistling.gif

PSN never ban ppl.. not at the time of this post
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Just want to ask...if banned XBOX can we still play offline and save games? Like PC game...Games for Windows Live will NOT be able to save games if pirated (unless cracked of course). Is it like that??

I only wanna play offline... tongue.gif

Thinking of buying an XBOX360...for my son. biggrin.gif (But hopefully, i can play occasionally also).


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QUOTE(panda-man @ Jan 15 2010, 09:24 AM)
already got fake blu ray mah. or are you talking about fake blue ray games and mod chip to mod your ps3. aint no way in hell am i modding my ps3.
nais~ thumbup.gif
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Got meh? I thought only fake DVD-9 movies with Blu Ray cover? Quality worst than DVD. Bought one before just to try.
doh.gif


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QUOTE(gnsumas @ Jan 10 2010, 06:49 PM)
PS2 last 10 years because of its games.

PS3 last 10 years because Sony develops consoles for a 10 year life cycle whistling.gif
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Wrong. PS3 last 10 years, because SONY is not making money from PS3 and have no money to develop new console. laugh.gif

XBOX360 will last 10 years...because of NATAL....it looks really exciting, way better than WII! You can lift ur leg and do roundhouse kick just like real! Just make sure ur shoe don't fly into the TV screen and break it.

One of the reason i'm thinking of of buying XBOX360 now is because of NATAL...smile.gif

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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Jan 14 2010, 08:25 PM)
xbox also mah, if u play online with pirated disc, once m$ detect it, they ll send u to ban island forever, that time, have to buy another xbox console and original games whistling.gif

what worse is, sometimes they ban the innocent ppl too whistling.gif

PSN never ban ppl.. not at the time of this post
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sure or not whistling.gif

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Jan 15 2010, 10:11 AM)
Just want to ask...if banned XBOX can we still play offline and save games? Like PC game...Games for Windows Live will NOT be able to save games if pirated (unless cracked of course). Is it like that??

I only wanna play offline... tongue.gif

Thinking of buying an XBOX360...for my son.  biggrin.gif (But hopefully, i can play occasionally also).


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Got meh? I thought only fake DVD-9 movies with Blu Ray cover? Quality worst than DVD. Bought one before just to try.
doh.gif


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Wrong. PS3 last 10 years, because SONY is not making money from PS3 and have no money to develop new console.  laugh.gif

XBOX360 will last 10 years...because of NATAL....it looks really exciting, way better than WII! You can lift ur leg and do roundhouse kick just like real! Just make sure ur shoe don't fly into the TV screen and break it.

One of the reason i'm thinking of of buying XBOX360 now is because of NATAL...smile.gif
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about the blu ray. they now got real blu-ray jack sparrow. (blu ray burners been out for a while already) but quite pricey. but no special features or anything. just the movie doh.gif pointless lah i think. the best part of ori is the specials nod.gif

is project natal real? i hear its in research but the release of it is very sceptical. hmm.gif oh well.

i am in full support of ori goods. down with modded machinery : flex.gif
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one of the guys behind natal is that guy who demoed the head tracking for Wii some time ago smile.gif

forgot his name tongue.gif
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QUOTE(panda-man @ Jan 15 2010, 11:00 AM)
about the blu ray. they now got real blu-ray jack sparrow. (blu ray burners been out for a while already) but quite pricey. but no special features or anything. just the movie doh.gif pointless lah i think. the best part of ori is the specials nod.gif

[b]is project natal real? i hear its in research but the release of it is very sceptical. hmm.gif oh well. [/b[

i am in full support of ori goods. down with modded machinery : flex.gif
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It's VERY REAL. MS has confirmed there will be no XBOX 720 for a while..NATAL is the next XBOX....there's tons of videos on it...google lar, dun be lazy.



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the blu ray disc is still expensive... ended the jack sparrow production cost might be 1/2 of an ori blu ray.
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Jan 15 2010, 12:33 PM)
It's VERY REAL. MS has confirmed there will be no  XBOX 720 for a while..NATAL is the next XBOX....there's tons of videos on it...google lar, dun be lazy.
i didnt google it cause i nvr really cared much about it even my ps3 i never google. tongue.gif i just wait till it comes out then i will do the ogling.
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microsoft+sony: we no need function like wii

2009/2010

microsoft: we got natal
sony: we got gem

MS+sony: it will help us pawn wii
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I think this analysis was mean to differentiate the Blue Ray DVD availabilty, but does the BD content quality is different with DVD's ? interms of graphics presentation ? IMHO BD its only a matter of capacity which only advantages for multiswapping games disc and free online gaming.
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QUOTE(enCORe @ Jan 18 2010, 09:36 AM)
I think this analysis was mean to differentiate the Blue Ray DVD availabilty, but does the BD content quality is different with DVD's ? interms of graphics presentation ? IMHO BD its only a matter of capacity which only advantages for multiswapping games disc and free online gaming.
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no its not just a matter of capacity. but is definately good news for large games that one needs to do multi swapping. the BD can support higher quality media. because it can handle larger files and the drive can read more data per second than compared with the DVD. thus it can handle more output in general, whether the data being sent out is audio or video files. if you are into BD movies, the audio files are usually top of the line uncompressed audio. below is some data transfer stats.

data transfer rate:
Data: BD = 36mbps (x1) DVD = 11mbps (x1)
Audio/Video: BD = 54mbps (x1.5) DVD = 10 (<x1)

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QUOTE(enCORe @ Jan 18 2010, 09:36 AM)
I think this analysis was mean to differentiate the Blue Ray DVD availabilty, but does the BD content quality is different with DVD's ? interms of graphics presentation ? IMHO BD its only a matter of capacity which only advantages for multiswapping games disc and free online gaming.
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with the usage of BD and mandatory HDD, PS3 games can be developed in such a way that the textures can be streamed onto video memory from either BD or HDD

xbox 360 do not have mandatory HDD, and DVD9 is limited in storage, so basically, Xbox 360 games have reached its peak for now,

while PS3 games still got room for improvement, games which look better than Uncharted 2 is not impossible for PS3
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But Thats for store media content, it does not much have room for technically graphics content, BDrom has lot of juicy hires uncompresz video but graphics factor is no much different. People does impress with 'video' presentation, hey say 'wah' this graphics is so good. But people not realize those presentation was not render by devices itself because its only plays a store media files. BD does have alots of space for storage but its the hardware capable still almost the same.

Me?, Id prefer realtime 3D render like QTE (Indigo Propechy) than FMV, I mean playing FMV hires video nothing impress because its just a mediafile not a true ingame content wink.gif

QUOTE(dattebayo @ Jan 18 2010, 05:30 PM)
with the usage of BD and mandatory HDD, PS3 games can be developed in such a way that the textures can be streamed onto video memory from either BD or HDD

xbox 360 do not have mandatory HDD, and DVD9 is limited in storage, so basically, Xbox 360 games have reached its peak for now,

while PS3 games still got room for improvement, games which look better than Uncharted 2 is not impossible for PS3
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I am still talking on the real time render texture,

Xbox 360 DVD9 disc need to have some compression for the in-game texture data, while PS3 BD can just store the texture uncompressed, this can save significant time in real time graphic processing. Uncharted 2 was done in this way.

Plus the mandatory HDD for PS3 make it easier to directly stream the texture data from the HDD, which is faster from the disc.

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QUOTE(enCORe @ Jan 18 2010, 09:36 AM)
I think this analysis was mean to differentiate the Blue Ray DVD availabilty, but does the BD content quality is different with DVD's ? interms of graphics presentation ? IMHO BD its only a matter of capacity which only advantages for multiswapping games disc and free online gaming.
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If u said like that, so CD also can make it in Full HD 1080P video quality just it can put few minute movie inside ??? whistling.gif
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QUOTE(nakata101 @ Jan 19 2010, 07:52 AM)
If u said like that, so CD also can make it in Full HD 1080P video quality just it can put few minute movie inside ???   whistling.gif
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Actually, if you're talking about mediafiles, it's true. The CD is like 700MB. You can probably fit a few minutes of uncompressed 1080p blueray rips there. smile.gif


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I am still talking on the real time render texture,

Xbox 360 DVD9 disc need to have some compression for the in-game texture data, while PS3 BD can just store the texture uncompressed, this can save significant time in real time graphic processing. Uncharted 2 was done in this way.

Plus the mandatory HDD for PS3 make it easier to directly stream the texture data from the HDD, which is faster from the disc.
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It depends actually. Texture compression can be done easily in hardware since the days of DirectX 6. The BD may have larger peak throughput, but when you access the files randomly, it is another story. A situation may happens that reading smaller compressed file and decompressing it can be faster than reading larger files on various location on a disc. I don't believe streaming from disc is a good idea at all. However, if it can be stream from the HDD, then it is much more pratical.

Frankly, the graphics between XBOX360 and PS3 is really insignificant...in fact, the most insignificant between the last 3 generations. N64>PS1>Saturn. XBOX > PS2.

Between PS3 and XBOX360, it's more like matter of taste....ATI vs Nvidia...each rendering image output is slightly different due to different architecture. Still, for most part, most cross platform games are usually slightly better on the XBOX360.

By the time the PS3 untapped potential (if any), can be realized, it'll be 2015 and it's time for XBOX 720...... biggrin.gif

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Do not forget that in order to have a good game graphic, it is still depends on the developer, whether they want to invest time, money and most importantly effort to produce a good looking graphic. (correct me if i'm wrong) Xbox 360 is the same architecture as PC, so for most cases for multi-platform games, it is easier to develop; in the case of PS3, it is in different architecture, so to develop in this machine needs other knowledge.

EDIT: Given a powerful machine but if developer didn't invest in effort to build the game, the game graphic can still be bad.

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PS3 have a more inferior GPU compare to Xbox 360, but the special thing about PS3 is some graphic processing tasks can be offloaded to Cell CPU, of course it takes significant effort to optimize all the SPUs, which usually only 1st and 2nd party developers have these dedication

Xbox 360 first mistake is that they abandoned the HDD to be mandatory
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Jan 19 2010, 01:46 PM)
PS3 have a more inferior GPU compare to Xbox 360, but the special thing about PS3 is some graphic processing tasks can be offloaded to Cell CPU, of course it takes significant effort to optimize all the SPUs, which usually only 1st and 2nd party developers have these dedication

Xbox 360 first mistake is that they abandoned the HDD to be mandatory
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Because the RSX was pretty last minute.

IIRC, all graphics processing was supposed to be done on the Cell, but they added the RSX to make devs lives easier.

Basically, they made a fully functional system with decent enough graphics processing capabilities and added in a rather weak GPU.


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