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helangkawi
post May 31 2010, 08:33 AM

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hi guys...i am new to have an arowana

could you guys advise me what arowana to get in price range RM150-250

i am thinking of Yellow tail or Banjar red

Yellow tail around RM160 for 2 inch size and banjar red around RM280 for 3 inch

and also i am thinking of green arowana, but difficult to find this one

for baby arowana (2-3 inch), how to take care of them? how many times per day to feed them? and what is the best food for them?

tq tq
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post Jun 1 2010, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(leggedy @ May 31 2010, 10:25 PM)

to be honest a...fishes that small, have bigger chances of dying...cause they are not that tough yet...if i were u, i will take banjar red... though the redness level wont be extreme..just slightly..
but still, the whole body up to level 4 scale will be pinkish or reddish....while yellow tail only the tail will be yellowish while the body is like more to white pale...
for a 6-8inch banjar red will cost u around 350-380....that's the display price la...i believe further mark down is possible
err...so then how to make the living percentage is higher than dying percentage, in term of water control and quality, filter, tank, feeding blink.gif


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post Jun 1 2010, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(jamestan_85 @ Jun 1 2010, 03:16 PM)
You can say experience is most important to increase chances of the fish not dying.......because just say when your fish acting abnormal..... the expert will know wat to do....eg. change 20% water or add salt or certain medication.....and beginner wont notice that until it is too late.....also things like covering your arowana tank.....is another factor..
.or maybe quarantine your feeder fish before feeding to your arowana to reduce chances of diseases...
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owh shiet...

thanks for the advise btw, but i can't help to get my arowana, feel in love already drool.gif drool.gif


Added on June 1, 2010, 3:44 pmhow long arowana can tahan in the plastic bag filled with water? is it around 6 hours?

i just got some one that might want to sell his 9" green arowana, but that place far away sweat.gif

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post Jun 1 2010, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(marsupilami @ Jun 1 2010, 04:52 PM)
lol, slowly man,
i oso new into arowana, just got my silver last 2 weeks, and it's grow fast that fella
got pic of the green aro?
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lol, never tot u also kaki aro sweat.gif

actually i already have silver arowana back 3 years ago...at that time she's already growth until 2ft plus...i raised her for over 3 years since small, but she died already back in 2007

and now i forgot and scared to raise a new one

that fella selling green arowana from mudah actually

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small size RM68

now 9" RM200
helangkawi
post Jun 3 2010, 12:03 PM

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could someone advise me on this statement?

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A clear example of this is a tank that has been poorly kept for several months. The owner decides to perform a 60% water change with the purest, most perfectly conditioned and correct water. As a result the Arowana becomes unable to swim correctly, starts to rotate in the water and over a week dies. The issue is not the condition of the water but the unexpected change. This same change could be achieved with 10% water changes per week, or even a reduction of the water level and a drip fed increase over several weeks.


so normally how to change the water if got risk like that?

how did you guys do cleaning your tank?
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post Jun 3 2010, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(pigpig @ Jun 3 2010, 12:19 PM)
very simple, "frequent" is the answer to your question.... regular water changes at least once a week and please dont change more than half....  biggrin.gif
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owh...becoz this phrase "This same change could be achieved with 10% water changes per week, or even a reduction of the water level and a drip fed increase over several weeks."

make me scared

thanks for the reply
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post Jun 4 2010, 03:06 PM

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regarding about the filter configuration

i would like to ask about the inside, the decoration

usually let say if i want to put gravel and plant, is it need to consider what type of plant, gravel and filter to be use? especially when to setup a tank for arowana example like picture below

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post Jun 7 2010, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(leong2084 @ Jun 4 2010, 06:15 PM)
hmm.gif having both planted and bare tank before....in my opinion for arowana while its still small (ie. below 6 inch) is ok to have deco and gravel etc
but when its at 8-9 inch onwards its better to have less deco cuz they might injure themselves when they get scared or jump >.<

With regards to gravel, it depends on you...if you wana be hardworking and vacuum the gravel every week then yeah it shud be ok, if not then bare-tank is easier tongue.gif
If you choose to have gravel and plants there are a few pro's and cons....i'll list out those i've experienced:

Cons:
1) uneated food/dead fish/dirt/poo all can get trapped in the gravel - if left in there too long, it begins to rot and bad bacteria / parasites start to develop causing problems
2) have to vacuum the gravel often ....while you doing so you are also siphoning the water out thus you are performing wc as well...to my experience 20-30% wc is not enuf to vacuum the gravel enuf....last time i did it with 50% wc only was soso for gravel cleanliness (50% wc is not recommended for arowana)
3)you can not have aquarium soil under the gravel for your plants....one swing of the big fish like your arowana/bichir/chillid/any big fish...will cause all your aquarium soil to fly around and make the water muddy cloudy and filter can clog with all that soil...thus only small fish tiny fish (ie. tetras) are usually for planted tanks
4) plants require huge co2 to grow well, you'll be having to invest in co2 system which the equipment is quite pricey and the co2 tank will have to be replaced from time to time depending on the size and flow rate
5) plants also tend to require lower temp (ie 23-25 degrees celcius) which is not good for arowana which pref 28-30 deg. cel..
6) having the aquarium soil (which also acts as fertilizer a bit) and the co2 pumped in will lower PH to acidic levels (ie. 6.0-6.4) which causes issues with water chem buffering which is quite a meticulous balancing act...and costly too...oh ya the wood you put in also helps to drop the ph lower as well
7) when you want to change gravel types or remove them completely due to some reason then it will be a very difficult and tiring task as doing so will likely require you to put your fishes in another quarantine tank while you do so as it will make a real mess of your water.....i know this cuz i've changed 40-50kg's of gravel 3 times in my prior 4ft aquarium.......3 sessions of 2 hour massages also not enuf to cover the pain and exhaustion...i'm not kidding  shakehead.gif

Pros:
1) if you are only having gravel no plants.....gravel will make the tank look much nicer
2) dirt is not so easily seen at the bottom as compared to bare-tanks
3) gravel provides more capacity for bb colonization as the gravel themselves provide good surface area for the bb to attach themselves to thus you will have better de-nitrification probably
4) if you are gonna use plants that dont need the aquarium soil to grow well ...you'll most likely be looking at anubias, java ferns, brazillian weed and the likes which can be tied down to a wood piece (found commonly at most lfs)
plz take note this is merely my opinion from my experiences, in the end the choice is yours to make  icon_rolleyes.gif

hope this helps  biggrin.gif
just to show off a bit of my old 4ft semi planted tank ^^
i miss its beauty sometimes tongue.gif
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thanks bro for the instruction notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

btw, i already checked, that kind of plant need CO2 pump to grow them cry.gif
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post Jun 8 2010, 11:44 PM

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after thinking and thinking, i am going to jalan pasar this weekend to buy 1.5" baby yellow tail arowana that will cost RM160.00 (i will try my merchant skill to get it at RM140.00 tongue.gif)


so this little aro will it eat small cricket? or just feed it with blood worm until it grow up to about 3"?

and is it ok to put this 1.5" aro in 2 feet aquarium without any waterpump (just oxygen pump and ikan DBKL)
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post Jun 9 2010, 08:20 AM

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QUOTE(BenSow @ Jun 9 2010, 12:19 AM)
NO. filter very important. DBKL shit a lot and will dirty the tank real quick.... blood worm is ok, but not frozen, it causes digestive problems in small aros... Opt for bigger tank so u do not nid 2 upgrade anymore and it makes ur aro happier
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owh...i just have a thought that waterpump inflow will be too strong for baby aro if i am using this type of filter
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or should i just use this type of aquarium sponge filter
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**ok, i will not put DBKL inside the aquarium sweat.gif

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post Jun 21 2010, 09:09 AM

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hi guys


i bought this baby on last saturday (19/6) at jalan pasar at RM120.00 for 1.5 inch...it's a yellow tail aro and not so very aggressive...been trying to feed this baby with blood worm, but looks like she's not a fan of it...she's more like to chase and catch living fish, so i just gave her a small fishes inside the tank...she can take about 3-4 small fishes for meal time..should be fine right to feed her with that small fishes?

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my tank setup is, 2 feet aquarium with hood, small sponge filter and 1 inch DBKL fish as cleaner
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post Jun 21 2010, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(leong2084 @ Jun 21 2010, 11:45 AM)
Hey haha

Sooooo cccuuuuuteee!!!! super super cute!!!

yeah some feeder fish is ok...just make sure you quaranteen the feeder fish for like a few days first to see if they die off....those feeder fish that die off from 3 days means they are weak and possibly sick so better not feed those...

Keep the feeder fish in a seperate small aquarium. Do make sure to add some salt to wash off some parasites.

Then take the surviving feeders out and change the water for the feeder fish quaranteen tank and then give your aro eat...tongue.gif
Grats on your first aro!!
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thanks mang, yeah it really cute but later it will become a fierce yellow dragon tongue.gif

yeah i do as your advice, i put the feeders away inside another tank, and for a first few hours, already 15-20 of them died. and also i choose a little fishes to feed it

owh i don't know about need to put salt in that water, i didn't put it shocking.gif

and also i still feed her with blood worm, but looks like she's not really interested with it...as uneaten blood worm may cause a pollution to the water i just put 1/8 from the cube after sliced it

now i am in the office and getting worried about that little guy at home unsure.gif
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post Jun 21 2010, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(leong2084 @ Jun 21 2010, 01:08 PM)
hehe is ok wan le, just make sure to do some wc one in a while shud be ok....
if your aro can only eat up to 4 feeders then put in like 6 healthy feeders, therefore the bloodworms will get eaten by the feeder fish lol and also give the aro some playmates  to play with tongue.gif

Usually aro loves bloodworms wan, mine even until now still love it, but since yours is newly brought in, is best to let it settle down first....give it a week and it will have adjusted to its new home and surroundings then will start to eat normally again wan tongue.gif
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ya lor, that bloodworm just fall to the bottom of the tank, and the bandaraya fish ate it

but the interesting part feeding this baby aro is...i bought it on saturday noon, so i gave her first meal around 5pm, at that time she just ate a little bit of the bloodworms...well, she just ate a little, mayb 4-5 bloodworms but i am relief that she is eating...and also during midnight, i gave her again...and this time she just passed thru the bloodworm

but in the morning i noticed the blood worms that floating around is finished, and some how she swim to the bottom and pickup those untouch worms and eat it...so about 11am i gave another shot of bloodworms...and yet the blood worms just floated untouched...


until 5pm, i can see she's still not eating any of the bloodworm..so i ran to fish shop, and bought some small fishes and bring it back..after selected the small fishes, i put it inside the tank, about 4-5...and like a rocket, she just chase and ate it shocking.gif

she had about 4 fishes that time
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post Jun 21 2010, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(leong2084 @ Jun 21 2010, 02:13 PM)
hahaha yeah, probly its not used to frozen blood worms...

if worried about nutrition then feed the blood worms to the feeder fish loe then just after the feeder fish finish eating then give the little aro eat haha

its like that wan i guess...cuz the aro still very small...cant each much tongue.gif
got pleco is good enuf to do clean up liao haha....your pleco sure will go eat the uneaten food, no worries...
but rule of thumb is that uneaten food is best to take out after 15mins if not eaten

Slowly la...once it grows bigger, you will see it eat more and more wan xD
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ohhhoooo...i can't wait mang, just now i am thinking to going off and look at it, damn i am really fell in love laugh.gif


but for the term take out uneaten food after 15 mins, is it ok to do that? afraid of while taking the uneaten food will make the aro scared, is it?
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post Jun 21 2010, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(leong2084 @ Jun 21 2010, 02:25 PM)
nah wont wan...just use the small net thingy to take it out. Just do it slowly loe haha....too fast of course will scare the aro  laugh.gif


Added on June 21, 2010, 2:26 pm
hoho....i think i'll be going tongue.gif
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alrite bro, will follow your advice and rule of thumb brows.gif

btw, promoting green aro, location taiping, if this place near i might want to grab it

9 inch for RM200.00

http://www.mudah.my/Green+Arowana-5658539.htm


it is really hard now to find some one selling green aro in KL, why ah
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post Jun 22 2010, 08:46 AM

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QUOTE(leggedy @ Jun 21 2010, 10:53 PM)
my new mg... biggrin.gif

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wow...even still young MG but already has that beauty thumbup.gif


what is the size bro?
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post Jun 24 2010, 12:16 PM

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i have question, where to get the P.h reader gadget and how much it will cost? the cheapest one will help?


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post Jun 28 2010, 11:09 AM

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i don't know my aro behavior is cute or is not normal


when i tried to feed it, i will turn on the light, as i am looking for dead feeder fish to be take out...

at the moment i opened the hood and open my light, my aro suddenly go to the bottom of the tank and sit down quietly..then after i finished my business, i turn off the light then after few second it will start to swimming again near to the water surface sweat.gif
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post Jun 29 2010, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(leong2084 @ Jun 28 2010, 11:40 AM)
ooh...didnt know thatĀ  hmm.gif

something new for me lol...giving me ideas about tiling the bottom to make it look more....shower room style...like...more pleasant to the eye

do you get like dirt being trapped under?


Added on June 28, 2010, 11:42 am
lol if you are the fish u will also behave like that ma tongue.gif

imagine big giant looking above you....put the hand in and grabbing here and there....scary riteĀ  sweat.gif
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haha..ya lor..so kawaiii....when she start to sit down quietly at the bottom laugh.gif


guys i have a question about WC


for right now, i am doing weekly WC for my aquarium...because of my aquarium setup is not inside my house, so i used to take a water from the direct pipeline

so because of the direct pipeline have a high percentage of chlorine inside it, usually i will prepare the water in another tank for about 12 hours...let say tomorrow at 2pm i will do the water change, so tonight at around 1am i will start to fill the water tank with the water from direct pipeline..and i will pour anti-chlorine a bit then i will leave there until 2pm tomorrow for water change


and i just do about 25% of the water change.


my question is, is it ok to use water from the house tank (refer to the picture)? as the water from house tank also coming from the direct pipeline..but the water inside there should have a low chlorine percentage and not very high like water from direct pipe line right?


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i am thinking to move my aquarium inside my house but i am thinking whether it will become difficult to do WC later on if i use the old method, take water from direct pipe line, then put chlorine and then leave it for 12 hours...but i am afraid to use water from my house tank because of i don't know whether it safe or not from high percentage of chlorine inside there

could some one who has experience help me on this please?

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post Jun 29 2010, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(leong2084 @ Jun 29 2010, 01:49 PM)
hahaha your pic so cute

the water storage u refering to is danki water rite tongue.gif

yeah my experience is for 2 years, i've been using the water directly from the danki water tank to do wc for my fish tanks tongue.gif

my method is remove 30% water, add in ac (just make sure its a good brand like nutrafin etc) then wait for a minute or two...then only pour in water directly from the danki water thru a hose..

but your current method is safer actually....storing the water in a seperate tank and dosing it with ac then next day to do the actual wc....

either way is ok wan in my opinion tongue.gif
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err i draw the picture to make it easy to understand, i also don't know how to describe it sweat.gif laugh.gif


danki water? is it the direct water from the main pipe to our house?

or danki water is the water from the main pipe and go through another pipe to our house water main tank?

ya lor, i thought it more safe to use current method...but it's kinda hard if i want to move my aquarium inside...because lots of water level involve later..it's more easy if i can take water directly from the main tank and just put it inside the aquarium

because last time i have experienced changing water from direct pipe..i do about 45% of WC, but just about 1 hour my fish died sweat.gif cry.gif

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