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helangkawi
post Jun 29 2010, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(leong2084 @ Jun 29 2010, 02:14 PM)
hahaha yeah direct from pipe outside the house is high chlorine poisioning chances wan....

The danki water i'm referring to is the water that goes through from the main pipe outside the house to a storage tank located above your house in the roof (usually =.=)

That water is stored there as a backup for you to use wan ma tongue.gif

So being stored there the water is already actually aged...therefore lower chances of chlorine poisoning for your fish smile.gif
If wana move the tank to inside the house is ok also, just that u need to make sure the tap u open is from a pipe that draws water from the danki

For my case i have my aquarium in my bed room tongue.gif my aro sleeps with me haha
So i use a 15ft long hose connected from a tap directly connected from a pipe that draws the water from the danki which the water has been aged there for god knows how long tongue.gif
There was a time when i was total noob...i didnt use ac...i just pour water directly from danki water to the tank and added the fish in....even that time i was lucky there was no issues lol...but plz...'do not try this at home' laugh.gif
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i think while you are sleeping, you aro just open the top cover and swim to your bed and sleep near you tongue.gif


owh that is danki water...

hmm..because i am going to locate my tank in the hall room, i think the best is to pull a hose from the toilet, since the toilet get the water from danki tank also

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Added on June 29, 2010, 2:41 pmbonus question from me tongue.gif

what size is suitable to start make aro eating cricket?

now mine is about 2.5"..and i am thinking to buy a small size cricket to feed it

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post Jun 29 2010, 03:51 PM

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lol..u guys all sifus lor tongue.gif


ok2, i think i gonna start to teach my aro to eat small crickets without leg one tongue.gif



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post Jun 29 2010, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(leggedy @ Jun 29 2010, 07:27 PM)
the reason to tear off cricket legs is becoz at times, cricket legs could tangle to ur arowana.s mouth and their legs had spike,and the tiny little spike could hurt ur aro, giving them a scratch..so the best to feed ur aro with cricket is pulling off it's leg and crush it's head
why crush it head..since ur aro is still small..they cant wholly swallow up the cricket..unless a much bigger aro could swallow it in one go..so SOMETIMES, ur juvenile aro couldnt swallow it all, the cricket will at chances tries to bite ur aro as self defense, hence will causes injury to ur juvenile aro..
Some sifu tot me this..as a precaution if ur aro is still a juvenile..crush cricket head, and pull of it's leg..safer..
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thanks bro for the well advice smile.gif


i already tried to give my tiny aro a small size cricket...and it ate it...looks like my aro very like the cricket so much...i gave 3 crickets just now...i am going to feed it 3 times per day, 3 crickets per meal


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post Jul 2 2010, 10:14 AM

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wow..that chili red drool.gif

owh man, hope i can afford to buy baby chili red someday, really like chili red sad.gif


is it ok to feed small aro with crickets 3 times per day? each meal about 4-5 crickets given
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post Jul 7 2010, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(se_eugene @ Jul 6 2010, 11:37 PM)
guys, i got a question.. how do we rank the arowanas? like which types from the most expensive 1 to the most cheaper 1?
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QUOTE(BenSow @ Jul 6 2010, 11:41 PM)
yea i dun get why silvers from halfway round the world costs rm28 and asians from 4hrs up north cost few thousand... o.o

@leggedy- dunno, maybe old one want to use
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well....let say bmw 3 series 2004 e46 model is around RM97k...and bmw 5 series model is about RM150k and 7 series is around RM200k and new x6 is RM900k for the value...both also have four wheels, 4 doors, engine..both also car...but only the shape, body, quality, shining level, prestige level, is different a bit

same goes to the arowana....but some people prefer certain breed, maybe even the golden highback is really beautiful, but he like black arowana a lot what to do

but here is some useful info for you

http://www.kimkang.com.my/products_knowledge.htm

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post Jul 7 2010, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(jamestan_85 @ Jul 7 2010, 09:52 AM)
I think is because of the supply and demand theory. How many silver there is compared to the golden head arowana? sommore those high grade arowana are hard to get because they go through selective breeding..... i think last time no such thing as a golden head arowana..... but they go through so many selective breeding until they achieve it.... eg. cross back + high back you get an arowaan which has a price in between and you called it the so called super high back..

Leong, do you have a special tank to store water for few days before changing your tank water? I see your tank got many filters menas you give the best to your fish... but i still think if u use aged water and change it everyday is that best.... btw....

Why is dead spot in the aquarium tank not good? I thought this dead spot could be places for the arowana to rest...
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if like that, i am assuming for the next several years, we can have bluebase, highback, crossback breed more cheaper then? because right now bukit merah has been a very popular arowana's farming place, they breed a lot of kind arowana type over there

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i think the price is different it is because of the beautiful of it, and the treatment being use, tanning etc... not because of maybe that type is a common type or not a common type


err...after googling for that farm picture, i found this picture, really beautiful but the eyes is dropped

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post Jul 7 2010, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(saif_bear @ Jul 7 2010, 11:19 AM)
Hopefully it wil be cheaper. But currently the demand for Goldies are high from oversea such as Japan, China, Taiwan, Hong Kong and the current stock is not enough for that. Hopefully Malaysia can produce more aros to cope with the demand locally and internationally.

Regarding the picture, I don't think that aros have DE. Aros looks like half conscious after given transmore and ready for tagging. smile.gif
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haha..i though DE...no wonder the eyes looks like so stim


yeah..japan, korean, china, hongkong..all demanding for golden and red arowana


luckily in US asian arowana is illegal, if it legal just imagine how much the demand will increase brows.gif
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post Jul 7 2010, 12:12 PM

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just about the farm

if let say i have a natural water pond (digging from a trench, make it bigger and some how created a pond)

is it possible to breed an arowana on that kind of water? do i need to inspect on what is the pond requirement? the water specification, filter or anything else needed?


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post Jul 7 2010, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(leong2084 @ Jul 7 2010, 03:24 PM)
lol its 100% aged ler....its definitely more aged than i take direct from the main pipe water outside....

when i take bath the water is from the tap water direct...not from the danki water biggrin.gif

there are only 2 pipes connected to this danki water source (middle upper toilet = the one i use) and master bedroom toilet....and barely anyone uses the danki water storage in my house besides me for my fish wc  laugh.gif

also my danki water is like i think is about 1800L of water so there's plenty of aged water

of course it wud be safer to have 100% guaranteed aged water where you are in direct control of it and able to observe it too, but u will need to have a separate tank for that...

unfortunately i have neither the money nor space to do so.....so my danki water tank is good enuf for me tongue.gif its been doing fine for 2 years and my fish have never gotten chlorine poisoning
so its absolutely no issues for me

unless you have your tank outside where you can have 3ple tier tanks (upper tank for aging water, middle for your aro, bottom for sump). But i want my aro in my bedroom so that is of course a nono..
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inb4 he ask question what is danki water like i do, let me clarify..danki water=tangki air rumah tongue.gif


like i do before...i used to fill this kind of plastic bucket that i put it outside of my house (in the garage)..that water came from direct house pipe, so the water aged before doing water change

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then after i remove the water (50%) and after that i will use this bucket to take water from above bucket

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yeah a little bit of tiring doing it, but if you are afraid then why not, precaution step tongue.gif

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post Jul 7 2010, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(saif_bear @ Jul 7 2010, 04:16 PM)
Why not put a pump in that tong. Better than carry the bucket right? smile.gif
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that tong i filled with direct water from pipe (really high chlorine level), so that one just for WC only...err, pump in that tong? dun understand..pump direct to tank?

QUOTE(se_eugene @ Jul 7 2010, 04:40 PM)
haha.. my frd say those pearl already out.. i dono la, i just listen him say oni~ didn intend to buy such expensive fish oso~
btw.. is highback not regconize? cos i look into all book, they hardly mention about hb 1..

imo, these investment are like new kind of mlm.. island red cafe~ hahah~ jkjk
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well...i must say, it is not about intense to buy an expensive fish, it's about the beauty of arowana...how they swim, how they turn, how the move slowly inside the aquarium..really elegance..no matter what type it is, silver,pearl,black,yellow,green,red,gold it still looks elegance

that investment plan is not alike MLM...just be careful with agent you registered to, if the agent runaway, then you die
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post Jul 8 2010, 07:46 AM

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QUOTE(saif_bear @ Jul 8 2010, 03:51 AM)
Yeap. Use the water pump to transfer the aged water from blue tong into the tank. Much easier right.
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err..that water pump i don't have lor
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post Jul 8 2010, 11:10 AM

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now already near to 3 weeks since i get my baby 2.5" yellow tail..

now it is about 4" and looking good, have a great appetite also...3 meal per day, 4-5 crickets per meal

now i am thinking, becoz of it getting bigger, the waste from it also getting bigger (i mean the fish shit)

so before this, becoz of the size is small, i am afraid to use power head water pump, coz afraid that little guy kenot tahan by the water pulling force

so wanna ask from you guys opinion, should i get a power head now? my aquarium is 2ftx1ft, and i can't put filter box/media box because of there is no space for it

would you guys advice which kind of power head should i get now?
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post Jul 8 2010, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(saif_bear @ Jul 8 2010, 11:20 AM)
If you want to get a power head, get the one with small output 1. So your aro can enjoy the small current created by the powerhead.
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small output, mean the wattage? what is the best wattage for 2 feat aquarium? then i need to check around at local fish shop nearby my house this evening


i am thinking about this kind of power head

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VA302PF GPH: 120 $10.99
Dimensions: 5.5" L x 1.5" W x 2.25" H
Variable flow control: yes
Output Diameter: 1/2", 3/8"
Maximum Head: 27"
Wattage: 6
Cord length: 6’
*Minimum Water Depth for operations: 3 inches (7.5 cm) when placed in aquarium or Terrarium horizontal


or this one

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VA305PF
GPH: 315 $17.99
Dimensions: 7.5" L x 2.15" W x 3" H
UPC: 006903713856
Variable flow control: yes
Output Diameter: 5/8" or 3/4"
Maximum Head: 48"
Wattage: 18
Cord length: 6’

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QUOTE(BenSow @ Jul 8 2010, 10:14 PM)
I jus posted above... it works on my silver aro... someone's aro didnt eat for 2 months b4 i read... they're cold blooded so thy do not nid to eat so much...


Added on July 8, 2010, 10:19 pm

any kind doesnt matter... if its able to handle the bio load its ok.
watch for:

Liters/H- should be trice ur tank volume. (eg tank volume is 200L. ur powerhead should be able to take care at least 600L/H(easily obtained) most powerheads go over 100L/H. The higher the better.

Filter Media - refer to http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/s...ead.php?t=88677

more on filtration - http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/s...ead.php?t=94937

hope this helps  icon_rolleyes.gif  biggrin.gif


Added on July 8, 2010, 10:20 pmwait wait wait, u wanna keep ur aro in a 2 feet tank??!? good thing u're in asia, masaleh will knock ur brains outta u if they heard this
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thanks for the comment thumbup.gif


yup i am going to place my little arowana in 2ftx1ft tank before the size going to be 9-10 inch...after that i shall get a 4ftx1.5ft tank with sump tank icon_rolleyes.gif


i am concern about the power head pulling power will make a strong current then my little guy can't handle the current, but no problem, i am gonna buy the small output internal filter and replace my sponge filter after wc this week


that mat saleh....they never understand how to grow a baby aro sweat.gif
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post Jul 11 2010, 08:22 PM

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just installed new internal water filter brand sun sun, 8wt and affordable to 600L flow

but my 4 inch YT can't take the current, already packed it back rclxub.gif

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post Jul 12 2010, 01:08 AM

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QUOTE(BenSow @ Jul 11 2010, 08:39 PM)
4 inch cant take 600L flow?? my 4inch silver was fine wif my 1000L flow.. mayb ur tank is too small lol... last time my powerhead is in the middle of the tank while my aro at the top.. he will get used to it one, it will let him exercise too thumbup.gif
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i think becoz of my tank is a small tank, 2ftx1ft only...maybe i should wait until he grow up maybe 6-7 inch...really kesian to watch him swimming like that, kena tarik by the current sweat.gif



QUOTE(leong2084 @ Jul 11 2010, 08:56 PM)
u can slow the flow rate a bit by attaching a sponge to the intake of the pump....the lfs shud sell the black sponge ...just ask them to show you how to attach the sponge tongue.gif
if the sponge is too big, u'll just have to get a razor blade to trim it down haha

also you can reduce the flow by turning it sideways if possible and let it only blow from the ground...where the water circulation will be lesser on the top area of the tank where your aro prefers to stay around

however based on your tank size, i wud recommend to start getting a bigger one soon  sweat.gif
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hmm...but still i am afraid lor...maybe later in another month see how, i will try to install the internal water filter back...hehehe..at least not wasting the money, just bought the internal filter not in the good time blush.gif

owh ya, how much current price for 6-7" HB now? can get around RM600-700?
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post Jul 13 2010, 11:06 AM

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HB RM1800 with cert sweat.gif

i better searching for bukit merah farm then
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post Jul 14 2010, 08:20 AM

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QUOTE(se_eugene @ Jul 13 2010, 10:18 PM)
hi bro, i just move my hb to new fibre tank... the ph in aquarium is 7.0 while in the fibre tank is 8.0.. so it is quite dangerous.. what can i do to achieve the normal 7.0 ph?
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i had read somewhere, it say for a new tank, must do water cycle at least 2 times...fill the tank with water, let it cycle and after that rinse back the tank, and add back the water and let it cycle back and do again the same step

at the third, just let the water cycle 24 hours before put in the fish

they said, new tank may have some chemical that came from factory where is the tank has been build
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that is really nice one

how much did you bought it?
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post Jul 14 2010, 03:07 PM

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eh guys,


if you gonna leave your 4 inch arowana for 3 days without anybody going to feed cricket, what life food will you choose?

fishes (ikan longkang or ikan kap)
shrimp (udang putih)

and how much u will buy it, RM1 or RM2

coz i am going for holiday, and will leave my 4 inch YT bout 3 days

suggest me please

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