kelah merah and kelah hijau is almost the same...the differences is their head and their scales....kelah merah scales are slightly smaller and their head are sharper while kelah hijau have bolder head
and slighyly bigger scales...while kelah biru looks like kelah hijau, but their body got a line across from back to front...the most easiest to spot is kelah biru...coz of the line..then, there is also kelah emas
in which their head and the most round shaped/biggest head...but kelah emas not nice la, that's why i felt la..so far i only come across one kelah emas...sold at jalan pasar, those ppl who came by and
sell their fish by the roadside.....they often got some rare fishes that we can't find at any LFS coz their fish was wild caught...
ohhh...is it the one near by the wet market/ sunday pasar malam?

the light same price lo...today brought one gold lighting, RM84

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Added on June 3, 2010, 10:47 pmhttp://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=88271

hmnn, if you have to get em small then its based on trust with the lfs owner oledy....gotta make sure the lfs you get from is a trustable person

sometimes biz is like that wan....no choice but to rely on trust
i know nothing about kelah also lol...but i went ahead to buy the red kelah cuz i trust that lfs which i buy from for long time already

Well, that the cheapest ray i can't ever find in fish shop in kl ..that why i opt to get one for myself

Of course, you can get a much more expensive rays which will cost you a bomb

owh...i just have a thought that waterpump inflow will be too strong for baby aro if i am using this type of filter

or should i just use this type of aquarium sponge filter

**ok, i will not put DBKL inside the aquarium

im trying to get those bio ball. I'm wondering whether i can find this near my place ...
Read from other forum, they also mentions that too many tank mate will also one of the reason
I try not to feed my aro fishes as the fishes will stay on the bottom and i think this is why my aro have droopy eyes

Had been 2 days starving my aro ....
no worms or froggies for 2 more days ....

My FF always kena whack by aro ...pity

dunno lol...the froggies seem to be quite hard to feed haha.....if only i can make them eat the bloodworm whole cube down...ah..then really nutritious froggie there oledy

but at the moment i cant think of any ideas to do so yet >.<

haha thx for the idea

i think wont be good le...duwan the aro to eat flour haha

i was thinking more in the lines like using a small opening device to open the froggie mouth...(just like those use to open the V wide wide) and pour the blood worms down into the froggie gua? hahaha

urs is highback right?  highback will only reach level 5 shine level, max...if u get to reach like quarter of level 6, then u are super lucky edi

yes yes.. ghost shrimp it is... but too fast ady tak sempat take picture.. haha
just the hb sambil eat, sambil got some blood come out from its gill there.
But now no more blood le, den hb oso eating as normal.. now oni feed worm, don dare to try any more tricks...  

@frenly

i dun there is for gold lol...dun think gold needs much tanning rather just normal white tfc light will do guah

They shine best under white light, but while they are young and you wana get them yellow gold looking then use the yellow light tubes loe...

as far as i know, only reds have tanning needs lol

@bensow
i fish at taman desa 'fishing sport'
unless you wana seriously go for the really fresh prawnies and dun mind having to kill them...as in cut them up alive or give them sub-zero freeze death (poor things :'( )  and also dun mind paying rm15 per hour...then come join me lol, i only go like once a month or so wan

for eathworms ar...try to put them in a container with like 1 mm of water for the amt you wana feed...and leave the rest in the dirt first...cuz by putting them in the 1mm water they will by the next day have probly poo out most of the soil in their bodies....

cuz to my experience ar...these earthworm they got those soil trapped inside their bodies wan ar...the aro eat it will also poo out the sand and then you have sand lingering around at the bottom of your tank...have to literally use a dustpan to sweep the soil up and throw away >.<"

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Added on July 4, 2010, 4:13 pmi just was thinking of something...

ye know rite...my water in the tank goes like in a clockwise circular manner....the water pump and the positions of the outlet house from the dual canisters support this...

when my fishes poo rite...on heavy loads...they poo is like rotating round and round in the middle of the tank...

will take some time before its actually gone...

does anyone experience this?

what i was thinking of maybe i can connect a hose to the water pump with a thin cloth sock at the end of the tube to suck all the poo into the sock thingy...where the tube end is at the middle of the tank and the other connected to the suction area of the water pump.....and then extract it like that...through the sock

cuz currently i'm using the water pump directly connected to the sponge to provide some filtration and water circulation...

any better ideas?

hmnnn....adding the air pump there will only just make the poo fly up and circulate back the middle lol

how do you guys circulate your water and ensure the poo gets sucked into the filter fast and effectively?

yea i dun get why silvers from halfway round the world costs rm28 and asians from 4hrs up north cost few thousand... o.o

@leggedy- dunno, maybe old one want to use

@ Jamestan_85

tqtq
haha noler, i just used the ball initially to find dead spots, now i just leave em there to help prevent de
i did leave a corner with very slow and low current flow for the aro to rest at xD

yeah the filter i have double (invested into a lot of those ehiem filter media  ), i thinking of even adding in an over head filter ....but like i dun think my hood has much space inside for that

i use aged water from the danki water stored above the house lol
my wc schedule is 30% every saturday
sometimes i will do on wednesday if i feel up to it but saturdays is a must even if i'm cold/sick/beaten down or anything hahahaha

i love my red 

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i wonder if we can use test tube to mix silver with red and gold etc and see how it comes out like lol

imagine silvers with red scales and red cheeks or gold and got blue base....or even high back and all.....

high back a....1k is a piece withour chip and cert...a highback with chip and cert will cause ya like 1.8k...
golden arowana distinguish by certain types...
there is highback(lowest grade of gold)
then crossback above 3.5k...depends on quality
and now a new breed, gold head...4.5k and above..
sure is a gold head....kin fatt they get their fish this way, this batch red aro, consist of chilli red, blood or super red...
then next batch gold...and so on..

if u guys really wanna get an arowana, go walk like 10-20 aquarium shop before u get one...  lol
coz u will have to see and understand them..or else u will get one that u do not desire for once u know them better..
actually wanna explain these in words are kinda hard..u have to see for urself.. 
i been looking around for aro since early of this year...been to more then 20 lfs..but still looking on...still lots to learn.. 

HB a..no cert around RM900..but kinda hard to find one without cert..with cert about 8 inch is around RM1800
erm..jalan pasar there got 5 shop selling arowana, 2 shops are with low grade arowana selling on overprice...3 shop got good grade aro...
seapark got 2, one is irene aquarium, the other one duno wat name
PGRM, inside there got one..
sungai buloh, at jalan sungai buloh, lot 46-47, their aro are all superb high end aro...
kepong, got 5..hehe~ opposite jusco is legend arowana, they got some good quality aro, but mostly without cert and chip
then nearby there is kin fatt
and further is another one inside housing area...
nearby leisure mall got one, at taman taynton...
then kuchai lama got one, sell some good quality reds...
then the famous XLSH, xian leng shah alam
then inside taman bunga teratai, got 3 selling aro...some good some bad...some prank
pandan indah there got 3...
oh yea, segambut got one, jz by the roadside of jalan kuching
this sunday i gonna go puchong and have a look over there, saw one on paper..havent been before...hehe~