so what's the status about the cracked windscreen problem?...........

and i was told the 2l will not be available til next year.........?

so looks like NOBODY has seen the 2l so far.........

there is so many conflicting stories about the availability of the 2l.........but majority of sa says next year/3 months time.........

oh well..........i will just wait........maybe the cruze will come alone.......not going to put money on anything without testing first.......

by australian standard, the exora would be considered very underpowered.......

and the 1.6l forte/cerato would also be considered the same.......there is only 1 version of the cerato in oz.......2l........

you wouldn't find the 1.5/1.6l latio/tiida or the 2l camry/accord there either......

car prices are so distorted in msia, we are really numbed.......

i think all should realise the cerato 2l cost aud 25k in oz...........

but admittedly, due to nazarisation, this is a car where we need to pay the least tax amongst international c-segment cars...........

actually, the sx perform worse on the road, mainly because of the 17 inch wheels........the broader wheels results in more road friction and hence less power.........and the low profile tyres are hard and bumpy, and road noise is significantly more then the ex.........

i know as i tested both......

unfortunately, there is no 2l to test..........and that's the one i am interested in.......

i was toying with the idea of changing the 17" rims to 16" higher profile tyres for a more comfortable ride.........

the slot is NOT useless........it works on the principle of inductive powering of the rfid chip in the remote, so that it can then transmit the unique code to start the engine........just like the 'ticket card' of the spore mrt.......

1. interior finish is mostly hard plastics, same with all cars at this price range.......fitting is okay.......durability, we will only know with time..........

2. while there is an electronic fc meter giving instant and average fc, it is not very accurate generally......and the official figures also is in test drive conditions.........so you will only know your actual fc after you have driven in you style and traffic condition for a while..........the car weights 1.3 tonne, so would be about the same as equivalent cars eg altis, civic........

if you have a confirmed booking with their s&p order, the price should be fixed.......if there is a price increase, they will have to fix a deadline for the increase.......prospectively, not retrospective........

this happened with the avanza, response was so good, they found their then current year quota was exceded, and they have to then use the next year's quota, and they announced a cut-off date, guaranteeing bookings before the deadline at old price.........

not sure how dealers operate, but branches will have an official booking s&p document, detailing the various prices, and an official booking number, and the official receipt contains this number, which is why the issuance may be delayed pending allocation, which seems centrally controlled........i suspect the branches operates the same way.........

that is standard disclaimer found in all advertised price lists.........but you booking performa is different and a valid legal contract.........

that disclaimer is meant to protect the company from people using an old price list, and demanding to buy at that price........

does anyone know what the price is in langkawi/labuan?..........

the back does not indicate the engine size, just ex or sx........is there any extra badge in the 2l to differentiate from the 1.6l?..........

i know people don't like to read this kind of info........and almost everybody thinks it is good value for money, which it is in the msian context......but it is good to have things in perspective.......

the top of the range 2l forte sells for equivalent rm55k in korea, and the 2.4l +5speed auto version for rm70k in canada.........

this is what i am told......

2l cbu will be available in jan.......but they refuse to say which part.......

there will be allocations of cbu's throughout the country, and if you book now, they can assign one, if the branch/dealer still have their cbu quota.........and i have been assigned one........

maybe because they didn't make the car?..........at this point, they didn't even assemble the car.........

it depends on your branch/dealer........they have allocations from naza........so if there are 2l units allocated to the branch/dealer not assigned, they will then assign one to you........or even if they have no allocation, or no free units left, they can check with naza and can still get one for you........

like most manufacturers with popular cars with waiting lists, inventory and assignment to buyers are done centrally........

heat is transmitted via irr, so that is the important figure.......

uvr is easily blocked, even normal glass will block >90%.......

the trick is how to block irr (and hence heat) while allowing enough visible light through.....and that's where the pigment technology come in, and why v-kool cost 2k+...........

normally, the irr figures should be the same for all glass surfaces, so i am not sure why there are different figures.......

there is little to choose between the 2, if the figures are to be believed.....many cheaper films do not block more than 70-80 % irr while letting 50% of light through.......if they can achieve 90%, that is considered very good.......already v-kool standard.........

while there is no disputing this is a well made car with very good features, it would be foolhardy to think there can be no problems in future, both in the car and the service from naza...........

buy with full expectation that there can be problems, and you will face less heartaches in future......

---

Added on December 13, 2009, 3:17 pm1. that is (or should not be) your problem.........surely, after making so much from the ap, they can foot whatever small change for getting the ap paperwork done.........

2. that also is NOT your problem.........transportation from the main depot/factory to retail branches/dealers is not your problem........it however affects you because allocation is made centrally, and it is likely your branch/dealer has ran out of allocated stock, and is now sourcing your car from another outlet's allocation, in this case, in kl..........they should have car transporters for this purpose like usual, but maybe it's because you want your car fast, and the saleman offer to drive it up directly for you........

This post has been edited by limeuu: Dec 13 2009, 03:17 PM