And, will buying a property with master title, will fasten the transfer of ownership title?
WTA: What is a master title?
WTA: What is a master title?
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Nov 26 2009, 12:14 PM, updated 16y ago
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And, will buying a property with master title, will fasten the transfer of ownership title?
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Nov 26 2009, 02:08 PM
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From what i know,
Master title = the big whole title that the developer have to build the whole construction project. To transfer to ownership title, you need to wait for individual title that cut out from the master title. |
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Nov 26 2009, 05:04 PM
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Yup, I think in TS case, the property not yet got individual title.
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Nov 26 2009, 11:12 PM
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Master title = big pie
Strata Title = slices of pie from the big pie |
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Nov 26 2009, 11:27 PM
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In that case, will it make a difference between holding a master and a strata title?
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Nov 26 2009, 11:38 PM
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developer holds the master title. you don't.
once the big pie has been sliced. only you will get the individual title. but that will take years... haha! This post has been edited by Winning11: Nov 26 2009, 11:39 PM |
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Nov 26 2009, 11:53 PM
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if it is a subsale and the property is under master title, compared to the one with a strata title, any difference in the length of the process of ownership transfer?
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Nov 27 2009, 10:20 AM
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ownership from vendor to buyer? no. i don't think there will be any difference.
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Nov 27 2009, 09:09 PM
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ok...thanks ya.....
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Nov 28 2009, 11:02 AM
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In malaysia, the land system that we practice is called the torrens system whereby each and every part of the land is registered with an owner. If the land is huge, and not yet been subdivided it'll be called master title because as stated earlier, every part of the land must be 'registered'.
Once the individual (as in the case of landed property) or strata (multi stories building) title is issued by the relevant land office, the perfection of transfer from the landowner (or developer as the case may be) to respective purchaser must be done via the correct instrument. As what earlier posts have correctly described, master title can be equated as bigger pie but sometimes, direct purchase from the developer also can be individual title, not necessarily be master title. A better answer will be, in master title case, the property that you are staying is still under the name of landowner (or developer as the case may be) whilst for individual title, the property will be held under the respective purchaser's name. Do I make myself clear? Added on November 28, 2009, 11:14 am'if it is a subsale and the property is under master title, compared to the one with a strata title, any difference in the length of the process of ownership transfer?' The answer is depends. Many factors needed to be taken into account. Conventionally, the drafting of the Sale and Purchase Agreement will be 3 months upon confirmation by the landowner (or developer) that the Vendor is the beneficial owner. If there is a delay from the landowner, then the duration will be longer. On the other hand, if it's individual title, the commencement will be date when the SPA is dated and stamped-there isn't a need to get confirmation from the developer because the Vendor is already the owner. The other factor may be the consent (usually leasehold properties). The commencement will start to kick in after obtaining consent from the State Authority in which may take months to get approved. This post has been edited by me_1980s: Nov 28 2009, 11:14 AM |
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Nov 28 2009, 12:13 PM
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QUOTE(me_1980s @ Nov 28 2009, 11:02 AM) In malaysia, the land system that we practice is called the torrens system whereby each and every part of the land is registered with an owner. If the land is huge, and not yet been subdivided it'll be called master title because as stated earlier, every part of the land must be 'registered'. Once the individual (as in the case of landed property) or strata (multi stories building) title is issued by the relevant land office, the perfection of transfer from the landowner (or developer as the case may be) to respective purchaser must be done via the correct instrument. As what earlier posts have correctly described, master title can be equated as bigger pie but sometimes, direct purchase from the developer also can be individual title, not necessarily be master title. A better answer will be, in master title case, the property that you are staying is still under the name of landowner (or developer as the case may be) whilst for individual title, the property will be held under the respective purchaser's name. Do I make myself clear? Added on November 28, 2009, 11:14 am'if it is a subsale and the property is under master title, compared to the one with a strata title, any difference in the length of the process of ownership transfer?' The answer is depends. Many factors needed to be taken into account. Conventionally, the drafting of the Sale and Purchase Agreement will be 3 months upon confirmation by the landowner (or developer) that the Vendor is the beneficial owner. If there is a delay from the landowner, then the duration will be longer. On the other hand, if it's individual title, the commencement will be date when the SPA is dated and stamped-there isn't a need to get confirmation from the developer because the Vendor is already the owner. The other factor may be the consent (usually leasehold properties). The commencement will start to kick in after obtaining consent from the State Authority in which may take months to get approved. |
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Nov 28 2009, 10:00 PM
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No worries.. this is what a forum meant to be. Help each other out and share the knowledge
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Jan 24 2010, 03:45 PM
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my friend's condo will get the individual title from developer and she was asked to pay RM5K++, why is that so much fees? anyone exprience this?
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Jan 25 2010, 09:51 AM
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the old apartment i'm staying. after staying there for almost 20 years, my dad got it, and it cost about 600+
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Jan 25 2010, 07:53 PM
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QUOTE(imax80 @ Jan 24 2010, 03:45 PM) my friend's condo will get the individual title from developer and she was asked to pay RM5K++, why is that so much fees? anyone exprience this? i think it will depend on the property valuehttp://www.iproperty.com.my/news/246/Trans...les-or-be-fined |
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Jan 25 2010, 08:16 PM
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QUOTE(me_1980s @ Nov 28 2009, 11:02 AM) In malaysia, the land system that we practice is called the torrens system whereby each and every part of the land is registered with an owner. If the land is huge, and not yet been subdivided it'll be called master title because as stated earlier, every part of the land must be 'registered'. Thanks for your post. Very clear and helpfull.Once the individual (as in the case of landed property) or strata (multi stories building) title is issued by the relevant land office, the perfection of transfer from the landowner (or developer as the case may be) to respective purchaser must be done via the correct instrument. As what earlier posts have correctly described, master title can be equated as bigger pie but sometimes, direct purchase from the developer also can be individual title, not necessarily be master title. A better answer will be, in master title case, the property that you are staying is still under the name of landowner (or developer as the case may be) whilst for individual title, the property will be held under the respective purchaser's name. Do I make myself clear? Added on November 28, 2009, 11:14 am'if it is a subsale and the property is under master title, compared to the one with a strata title, any difference in the length of the process of ownership transfer?' The answer is depends. Many factors needed to be taken into account. Conventionally, the drafting of the Sale and Purchase Agreement will be 3 months upon confirmation by the landowner (or developer) that the Vendor is the beneficial owner. If there is a delay from the landowner, then the duration will be longer. On the other hand, if it's individual title, the commencement will be date when the SPA is dated and stamped-there isn't a need to get confirmation from the developer because the Vendor is already the owner. The other factor may be the consent (usually leasehold properties). The commencement will start to kick in after obtaining consent from the State Authority in which may take months to get approved. |
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Feb 7 2010, 04:08 PM
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Given that the property I buy is under master title
QUOTE the drafting of the Sale and Purchase Agreement will be 3 months upon confirmation by the landowner (or developer) that the Vendor is the beneficial owner And, my s&p mentioned that: The Completion Period Three (3) months from the date of, either: (a) receipt by the Purchaser's Solicitors of the Developer's Confirmation together with the State Consent to Transfer pursuant to Section 3.02, if applicable or the Developer's and if applicable, the Proprietor’s undertaking under and pursuant to Section 3.04, as the case maybe; or (b) this Agreement whichever is the later. This would mean, the late pymt only comes into effect 3 months from the date my lawyer received confirmation by the developer that the seller is the beneficial owner, instead of the s&p date (which is earlier)? Correct? |
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