LYN LG Thread Version 3 - Welcome!

LEOPARD GECKO

The leopard gecko, (Eublepharis macularius), is one of the most commonly kept lizards today. These hardy saurians come in a variety of colors, patterns and sizes. They are a great species for an indoor home pet. Unlike other geckos, Leopard Gecko DOES NOT stick on walls, does not sprint off like lightning when we approach them, they are not aggressive by nature, they have EYE-LIDS which makes them very cool looking and they do have that irresistible smiling look on their faces. Below are some basic information about Leopard Gecko and Link for you to do some intensive further research if you need.

Size
Leopard Gecko are hatched at around 3-4 inches long and on average as an adult they would measure around 8-10 inches.

Life Span
Leopard Gecko can live up to 25 years and some has recorded longer in captivity.

Housing
Leopard Geckos are really easy to care for. Unlike other reptiles Leopard Gecko does not necessary need a very large space to live. They would thrive very well in a 10 gallon tank. The setup is relatively simple.

1. Water Bowl
2. Dish Bowl
3. Calcium Dish Bowl
4. Hide Box
5. Moist Box

Example of a setup:

*Image courtesy from TGS.


Diet
We commonly feed our Leopard Geckos with either MEALWORMS, CRICKETS or SUPERWORMS. It is advisable to gutload your feeder insects before feeding it to your Leopard Gecko. These insects are also dusted with calcium powder + D3 and multi-vitamin between the interval of 2-3 days. It is essential to provide them with Calcium, Vitamin D3, Multi-vitamins in order to keep them at their healthiest form.


Mealworms, Crickets and Superworms

Lighting & Temperature
We are blessed here in Malaysia that we are not a cold country, on the other note, Leopard Geckos DO NOT need any form of heating source. Unlike other reptiles, they do need their warm basking spot. Reason to this, other reptiles depend on heat to digest their food. Leopard Gecko do not need those heating lamps or any form of heater (unless they are it a fully air conditioned environment most of the time).

Leopard Geckos are nocturnal creatures. They are slightly more active during the night compared to the day.

Handling and Temperament
Leopard Geckos are easy to handle, most of them would just lay on the palm of your hands when u hold them, a small bunch of them will wiggle for an escape. But given time, most of the Leopard Geckos will get use to our way of handling. Listening from the many experience and adventure of Leopard Gecko owners, these amazing lizards has been giving us an endless share of fun watching them grow into their personality.

MORPHS & GENETICS

Here is the unique part about Leopard Geckos. They comes in a variety of morphs (meaning coloration, patterns, designs and sizes). How the morphs are determined are based from the genetics that was used to make it. Below are some of the interesting morphs around that you could find today within our Malaysian community.

RAPTOR - Ruby Eye Patternless Tremper ORange


ENIGMA


SNOW


TANGERINE


SUNGLOW


and much much more .......

You could always visit here --- >Leopard Gecko Wiki to know more about Leopard Geckos and their many morphs.

And if you would love to purchase a leopard gecko... you could get from the few breeders around.

Here are some links for some local breeders:
www.thegeckoshop.com

Other forumer breeders around:
billygoatz
meento
luc
mattemily_85
echosmiles


You could also drop in and ask any of us for information and we will be more than happy to guide you through becoming well informed about Leopard Geckos.

The morphs and possibilities are endless...do join us to know more about this wonderful amazing specimen for a pet.....Cheers*

Have a nice day

This post has been edited by echosmiles: Jun 29 2010, 02:06 PM

CONGRATS ON V3!....FINALLY!!!!

Yea~
CongraTz on LG V3=)

Welcome Version III. Cannot wait to start bashing this threads like Ver. 1 & 2...Oi!!!

Congrate for V3, moving fast.

chinchilas, show us your collection!!!!!

The news so fast.... When ready will show.

news in leopard geckos spreads like a plague...hahahaha.......show us at least some la......

my same la like your! Also leopard gecko! Will la, let them shed the skin, then can take photos.

Letter can trade a Leopard gecko with a totoro with you chinchillas...
I bet its your first reptiles is it? just a wild guess...

you must show ALL!...ehehheehehe......no need for them to shed la dei!.....come come come..lai lai lai...

Yes, first reptiles. Completely difference from mammal, no hair, no whiskers, wont jump and is cold.

Your la, put so many photos poison ppl, cause me fall la to your poison!

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Added on November 24, 2009, 1:52 pmRelax Bro. relax....

This post has been edited by Chinchillas: Nov 24 2009, 01:52 PM

how to relax wei..hehehehehe..must see maaaaaaa.....heheheheheh

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Added on November 24, 2009, 2:34 pm




maybe some of you guys dont know where to start, in order to search for the leopard geckos.....you wanna own one?....click on the picture above then!.....

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Added on November 24, 2009, 2:46 pm


just abit poison to some of you guys.........the best rainwater produced by Steve

This post has been edited by luc: Nov 24 2009, 02:46 PM

Congratulation LEO V3

..... ....... .........

ape lagi ash........beli la...

cantik ker that rainwater ?!

This rainwater better...



This post has been edited by echosmiles: Nov 24 2009, 04:08 PM

kipas kurt..kipas...jangan tak kipas......

Dah sedaya upaya dah !!!!! Aku rasa kena upgrade aircon !

Ko tolong sekali la lahabau !

This post has been edited by echosmiles: Nov 24 2009, 04:22 PM

kipas cipet TGs kuat kuat..nanti dia hadiah korang house geko aja...lol

aku kalau kipas....aku do it in PM...wakhahkahkahkahk

haha house gecko pun dah abis siot. aku dah tangkap semua kasi makan colubrids a year ago. takpe, katak dalam longkang still banyak. nanti aku kasi sorang satu buat upah kipas. no worries nugget. ko pun nanti dapat sekor...LMFAO!

actually ini bukan nak kata kipas.... dia sorang jer yang ada rainwater patty kat sini... mana lagi aku nak cari ?

RAPTOR pun sih syaitan jer yang advert....

Nah nih aku support orang lain ...



This is a dreamsickle....

aku taknak support versus!...booooooooooo............LMFAO!!!

LMFAO! Caya la. Actually just support all la.

ok lah...aku support dua orang...TGS and TCG (TheChinchilasGecko)....

ok tak?.....cause i know he's the new player and will give us some geckos for free though!...ehehehehehhe

Support the local breeders la !

NO POLITICS PLS

wahahahha..kecoh sial kurt.....aku tengah bosan..ko cakap aku main politic....cam pepet....so you indirectly telling my i'm a racist?...ha???ha.???/!!!!!! ..|..

This post has been edited by luc: Nov 24 2009, 05:07 PM

Eh...bukan ko main politic siot....

Tak nak sampai jadi politic...LOL

Rilek ler....sayang ok monyet ...

Everybody... jom kipas si luc nie...panas gile... merah monitor screen aku dah.....

Later, we kipas back TGS....

bagus...kipas aku...kipas telur aku skali...incubate telur aku up to 89F......sedap sikit....

Anyway...i wanna give away some free stuff here....

Start the kipas pls !!!!

i dun want ur free stuffs.....

YOU GOT PM!....wahkakhahkahkhkahkahka

Ini "leo" thread ke or "telur" thread ni? Topic makin best la LMAO!

oi azazel..ko pon nak kena maki ke...baik ko join ash kipas telur aku ni....lekas!.....

Ko dah clean shaven ke belum ni bai? Aku takut melayang jer kutu-kutu nanti bila Ash kipas telur ko. Geli siot LMAO!!!

Anyway, to kick off this thread (and before somebody else kena ban again LMAO!), below is the most basic albinos you should know.

In alphabetical order,


Bell/Florida


Rainwater/Las Vegas


Tremper/Texas

With the pictures to compare, I do hope there will be no more question such as below:

"How do you know this is Tremper/Bell/Rainwater albino?"

And "It’s like Pokemon ... you’ve just got to have them all!”...LOL!

Regards

congratz V3...

apasal nak pokemon ya?Hello Kitty pun ok gak hehe...

stop talking about kena ban and start to kipas...yes..cleanshave and it does look cute though!....


thanks for the nice info.. ..im loving it..the first pic...bell

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Added on November 24, 2009, 5:39 pmand you collect Hello Kitty?.....freaking sissy!!!!

This post has been edited by luc: Nov 24 2009, 05:39 PM

bukan setakat Hello Kitty aje,sailor moon,barbie doll dan mcm2 lagi lah....especially Ultraman and Masked Rider.

ok...now i will offically call you MATT THE SISSY....and your company name is MTS!.....

azazel = TGS
chinchilas = TCG
matt = MTS

good?....cool!..hahah

mcm SIAL!!!!

ehh.. I learn 1 thing from my trip to vietnam few months ago for their reptiles expo...

be unite and share the joy together...

we should have a year end gathering guys ?
kat kedai mamak pun jadi...

Bro lu tinggal satu..... GABAN the space cop

Bro Azazel, dont forget to post in TGS if you got those hatchling d....Devil can't never forget when this $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ involve

No worries bro. Will surely do. My hatchlings this year macam tak cukup siot. Terpaksa jual dengan breeders sekali. Next year hoping to produce a few thousands. Don't know what to expect though. All I know is that I am building racks very soon just to accomodate them. Just hentam jer la and tengok apa jadi LOL!

$$$$$ soon to be zero. Rolling bit by bit now.

Cuak ada, satisfaction pun ada. Mix feelings siot.

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Added on November 24, 2009, 6:23 pmYour "Vietnam" has a different power than Malaysia. There are a lot of dedicated players there. And almost all of them are as rich as Hell. I doubt we could achieve such feat in Malaysia. Oh, you must not forget the Perhilitan too.


This is the last hatchling this season from TGS. It's a het DB. I am having trouble to identify it's homozygous form though because just like some of its siblings, it has snake eyes. And since I sold the first hatchling I hatched (Murphy's Patternless Het Rainwater Albino), I will be keeping this one as it is my last.

Regards

This post has been edited by Azazel: Nov 24 2009, 06:23 PM

cantik giler kaler dia,i bet the colouration will be more intense another few months...mcm reverse stripe aje.

p* lah lu azazel... bawak geko pergi mamak pun kena tangkap perhilitan kah ???

koteh ! nanti gua bakar rumah mamak tuu

Thanks for the ideal, at first I never want to own a website about gecko, as i did not do that to chinchilla as well, but now your given name it seem very attractive! (quickly go register! then can potong my neck to ask me buy over your url! )

CONGRRATZ VER 3..

the photos posted here are really poisonous. I am admiring the beautiful colors on the lizards...

wow wow wow...man u guys are damn fast..its V3 and oledi page 3...anyway congrats for V3...btw wanna share something,,while im thingking of getting rid of my animals (selling them off) i discovered that my cats eye is gravid,my gekko smithi which i tought both were female laid eggs after so long of waiting and time nak let go pulak tu..so they are a pair,my lepord gecko eggs hatched out 2day..cute lil buggers...pairings between normal and sunglow.....sigh....

alamak =.= 4 days no online .. sudah v3 ! woohoo ~ I like the 1st page .. much better den v2 ...

hurmmm....cool on the hatchlings azazel........and i think as what nugget suggested, lets do some gathering....

azazel....can we propose to have a BBQ party at your crib?...if you're OK with it lah....since ada compound, rumah depan pon banyak kosong and nak buat bising pon macam no hal...just my 2 cent..

TCG : i dunno that u like the name....so go register it then...thechichilasgecko.com....easy as pie

MTS : hehehehehe..........

sial giler .....dah nampak sgt tak ada keja!

Yup, it's a reverse stripe. It looks like the by-products of Raptors (eg. Tremper albino with carrot head, tangerine & carrot tail etc.) but with snake eyes. Does that mean it's a Raptor? Or reverse stripe blazing blizzard (very unlikely) or simply Snake-eyes, Carrot Head, Reverse stripe, Carrot Tail Tremper Albino?


I was refering to the hobby as a whole.


Indeed they are


Frankly, I had that exact idea already. But the location would be at my new crib which will finish soon (I hope )

kalau new crib dah siap before new year....then we buat house warming....aku bawak cupcakes!!

Looking at the progress, I don't think sempat siap before new year. Maybe early next year la.

early next year it is then.........nanti we plan out lah...buat THEMES la......

Ya great Idea.. ermmmm.......GECKO EGG day

so easy for LUC to kipas the each telors

telor kau aku kipas dulu bro...silap silap aku siap kolom skali nak kasi bersih..... isk!!

Cakap cakap yang camni yg buat aku geli siot. Ko nak kolom pun hush hush la sikit. LMAO!

i'm very loud with my words bro...kalau aku nak kolom..aku declare awal2...so that ash know what to expect later on..nanti tak dapat..dia gak disappointed...i hate to disappoint my fellow friends....wahahahah

Kah kah ......

Bro Azazel,

Noob Q ere... mentioned related to morph describe co-dom... what is that mean?

Condom aku tahu la!!!

This post has been edited by AshJ: Nov 25 2009, 12:37 PM

i like this fella
http://infinitileos.webs.com/apps/photos/p...hotoid=60128782

does HG Tang is sure have a few black marking on head 1 ar?

from my experience on seeing a HG tang real life...they do have spots on head...

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Added on November 25, 2009, 1:28 pmsila buat tempahan anda!...hahahahaha

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Added on November 25, 2009, 1:30 pm





This post has been edited by luc: Nov 25 2009, 01:30 PM

For sale :
1. Mack Snow het Tremper Male Adult
2. APTOR het RAPTOR Male Adult
3. Tremper Albino Juvee TSF
4. Snow Tremper Juvee TSF

PM me if you're interested.

This post has been edited by echosmiles: Nov 25 2009, 01:48 PM

I'm sure if you googled, you would find the answer as below:

"A condition in which both alleles of a gene pair in a heterozygote are fully expressed, with neither one being dominant or recessive"
-www.answers.com-

For info.

Regards

HG tangerine -
HG in full term is?

Hot Gecko

owh!thanks matthew

something to share....

gambar ni nak promote gecko ker Nikon?

aku nak promote Nikon sebenarnya...ahahahahhahah

org baru cni..
sy rasa minat plak nk bela sekor..
cmner nk start eh?
tgk harga2 gecko nih bleh tahan gak mahal..
tp xkesah sgt jnji dia sehat..hehehe

jd sesape leh tolong briefkan pasal gecko ntuk newbie cm sy
Thanks =)

gecko ni adalah seekor cicak yang mempunyai kuku....leopard gecko tidak melekat pada dinding atau siling rumah anda...malah dia memberi anda kepuasa iaitu pada warna badan, warna ekor dan warna mata....tentang penjagaan gecko amat mudah dijika diambil kira tentang kos penjagaan...hanya memakan cacing, cengkerik, kalsium dan juga air....umur yang sesuai untuk membeli atau membela seekor gecko bermula seawal 2 bulan....tentang harga gecko dipasaran, YA, agak meninggi tetapi cuba anda pikir tentang masa hadapan jika anda boleh memperberanak pinakkan gecko gecko ini....keuntungan dan masa depan ditangan anda.....


jika ada sebarang pertanyaan atau persoaalan....tanyalah diruang yang disediakan, kami sedia membantu


yang ikhlas
luc

This post has been edited by luc: Nov 25 2009, 02:14 PM

LMAO!!! I could never have put better words in Malay. Infact to explain about the hobby in Malay language is a b1tch. In English would be 1000 times easier.

then is this the right place for me to ask bout gecko bro luc??

Jawab luc. Haha

yes..obviously is the right place...but dun ask silly question like.....why the leopard gecko got 2 ears yang berlobang....because i dun even know how the fcuk am i suppose to answer tat...hahaha.....

anyway..just enjoy and browse through..just ask any sh!t...we're here to help though.....you know how to ask right?...just write and click the ADD REPLY button...and yuo're ready to go!...

This post has been edited by luc: Nov 25 2009, 02:22 PM

Hi,

Try and browse these articles and see whether they answer your questions:

Article 1

Article 2

Regards

thanks luc & azazel!!
hehe..

thanks thanks gak bro.......you owe us one tonggeng session..tats about it!...

Here we go again . Well you don't owe me a "tonggeng". Just buy my animals and I would be satisfied .

so u guys have extra gecko to sell??
i like the HG tangerine..hahaha!

ok ye ye je...cakap kat aku lain..and now lain plak....macam farid mamak sial ko ni....

Farid tu animals pun dia tibai beb. Ko jgn kasi dia dekat dgn gecko betina ko. Habis dia rodok nanti LMFAO!!!

then kluar la anak....farid nyer morph....aku jual la anak2 dia..takpon aku pijak kasi mati je.....hahahaha....

2 of my eggs hatched today ...

1 of it is a snow tremper...the other is ??!?!?!

Jungle Snow Tremper ?

I'll update the pics later...

OFF TO SEREMBAN I GO !!!! Work work work !!!!

congartz echosmiles..cant wait to see the pics..

another one must be a monster...named it little kurt

Hhahahaaa...finally. U are here !

damn good la bro !

bro, u can visit triunity geckos at kelana jaya Giant there (behind public bank) whole shop selling geckos.. price is quite reasonable there.

you can also visit his webpage @ http://www.triunitygeckos.com/

oh ya.. there are also a lot of breeders in this forum too.. luc matt azazel echosmile and so on... ask for their information instead.

all the best good luck

YO....from the avatar here edi i knew who u are....

hahaha....welcome to our thread.

co- dominant is a trait that can be passed on by either one or both parents and be visible in the first generation of offspring. Co-Dominant traits can also yield a "Super" form if inherited from both parents.

Wah... harvest, good harvest luc.

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Added on November 26, 2009, 9:51 amCan't wait to see their pictures!

This post has been edited by Chinchillas: Nov 26 2009, 09:51 AM

I hope tomorrow u guys won't sembeleh your gecko for Hari Raya..

P/S: I got a few to let go.. Check out my signature MuahHahaha!!!!!

just info to share with you guys.....i've been reading it and i guess its pretty simple to understand though

"NORMAL PHENOTYPE" (DOMINANT)
This refers to the typical leopard gecko coloration of black spots on a variety of base colors. The “normal” phenotype is dominant over all recessive traits (albino, patternless, and blizzard). Therefore, a gecko carrying only one copy of a recessive trait would have at least some degree of black spotting.
Normal morph is a term that is often used to describe wild-type leopard geckos. Wild type leopard geckos are usually heavily spotted on a brownish yellow base color. “Normal” phenotype includes the wild type leopard geckos, but also any other morph that is able to produce black spots, including hypo tangerine, high yellow, lavender, pastel, jungle, etc. To avoid confusion, I will use quotation marks around normal when I am referring to the “normal” (dominant) phenotype, but no quotation marks when referring to the normal (wild-type) morph.


RECESSIVE TRAIT
This refers to traits that are not expressed when combined with a dominant trait. In order for a recessive trait to be expressed (outwardly visible) the gecko must be carrying two copies of that trait. Recessive traits in leopard geckos include all three strains of albino (Tremper, Rainwater (Las Vegas), and Bell), patternless, and blizzard.
Selective breeding cannot create recessive traits. These traits are the result of a mutation of certain genes that control a specific part of the development of the animal. Recessive traits are usually discovered randomly, there is nothing you can do to increase your probability of discovering a new recessive trait, you just need to be lucky!


LINE-BRED TRAIT
This refers to traits that were created through selective breeding over many generations. Traits that are line bred include hypo-melanistic (hypo), tangerine, and jungle.
In the early stages of the development of these morphs the existed as slight variations from the “normal” phenotype. The tangerine morph is an example of a line bred trait and I will use it in my example of how a line-bred trait is created. The development of this trait began with animals that were observed to have a slight amount of tangerine color in the body. These animals were bred together, and some of the babies were showing more tangerine than their parents. These babies were grown up and bred together, and their offspring showing even more tangerine were selected to breed for the next generation. In this manner the intensity of tangerine was increased with each generation, and this process of selection is continuing today.

These traits are not controlled at a single locus (particular location on the chromosome) and hets cannot be created for line-bred traits. Line-bred traits are controlled by increaser-decreaser alleles, meaning the more intense the traits are in the parents the higher the likelihood of observing these traits in their offspring. For example, if you were to breed the nicest super hypo tangerine in the world (super intense orange-red body color with only a few black spots) with the ugliest wild type normal leopard gecko (heavily spotted with black spots on a brownish yellow base color) you would get babies that were likely somewhere in between in coloration and spotting. Babies could be expected to be brighter tangerine and with less spotting than the normal parent, but more spotting and less intense tangerine coloration than the super hypo tangerine parent. There would likely be a spectrum of orange coloration and spotting between the babies, with not all babies appearing exactly the same.
An example of a line bred trait and increaser-decreaser alleles in humans would be height. If a 6-foot tall person were to have children with a 5-foot tall person you would expect the children to fall somewhere in between the parents in terms of their adult height. However, sometimes the children end up taller than their parents as is the case in my family. My father is 5’11” and mother is 5’4”. I am 5’10”, my sister is 5’5”, but my brother is 6’2”. This sort of situation can occur in hypo tangerine leopard geckos as well, where some babies often end up with less spotting and nicer coloration than either of their parents, and is always a welcome surprise!


HET OR HETEROZYGOUS
“Het” is a slang term for “heterozygous” (“hetero” means different). Heterozygous animals carry one copy of a specific recessive trait (albino, patternless, blizzard) and one copy of a “normal” trait. We have two copies of each gene (one from each of our parents), and in the case of a heterozygous animal it has inherited one copy of a recessive gene and one copy of a dominant gene.
Example: If you were to breed an albino leopard gecko with a non-albino (“normal”) animal, all babies would be heterozygous for albinism, carrying one copy of the albino gene and one copy of the non-albino (“normal”) gene. Remember that because the “normal” phenotype is dominant over the albino gene, the appearance of the animal is “normal”. The term heterozygous only applies to recessive traits, and is often used improperly, as in the case of line-bred traits (hypo-melanistic (hypo), tangerine, and jungle).



HOMOZYGOUS
This is the opposite of heterozygous. Homozygous means carrying two copies of the same trait (“homo” means same). A homozygous gecko is carrying two copies of the same trait, one copy inherited from each of its parents. Animals that are homozygous for a specific trait would express it in their phenotype.
Example: A blizzard is homozygous for the blizzard trait, and carrying two copies of the blizzard trait. A patternless albino is homozygous for both albino and patternless, and carrying two copies of the albino trait and two copies of the patternless trait.



This post has been edited by luc: Nov 26 2009, 10:41 AM

perghh...Luc dah jadik sifu lah