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yellowpika
post Dec 11 2009, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(Lord_Ashe @ Dec 11 2009, 11:25 AM)
wow, kyo going V series bravia.

4.2k, ok la for that range.

You don't get so exsaited about Astro HD la, most it will go to is 1080i.

IF at all.

EDIT

PIKA okk, can afford LED tv.
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i'm not OKK lah, i'm just giving a suggestion only blush.gif

QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Dec 11 2009, 11:25 AM)
Yes its (LED) clarity is second to none, but at the same time hurting your eyes more than ever.


Added on December 11, 2009, 11:28 am
SONY? huh.gif

Damn I thought Samsung blush.gif laugh.gif

TO HELL SONY! mad.gif

Seriously unless you are over load with cash, like someone here tongue.gif , you are better off with other brands
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agree.. i heard that sony's panel is OEMed by samsung and some other companies.. hmm.gif
mind to share the source that LED backlit TV will hurt our eyes? icon_question.gif

agreed also! for televisions, i think samsung and sharp are not bad.. thumbup.gif
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post Dec 11 2009, 11:33 AM

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My own opinion. The whole dark/bright and plasma/LCDs are mainly because of their color bias. Plasmas are biased towards warmer colors like red, amber or brighter hues. The LCDs tend to favor the colder color biases, like blue and cyan, which is why you see everywhere, at showooms, you tend to see CGI movies displayed on LCD TVs that tend to bring out the best of the panel quality.

I watch my movies and play my games in total darkness. And my TV is not a plasma here either, and it is more than adequate, it is exemplary. Sony Bravia Z here, while Pioneer Kuro Pro-111FD in my place in Newport, and while I watch the Bravia here in complete darkness, the gaming den's arrangement in LA is such that I cannot watch the Kuro in darkness at all (my better half hates complete darkness), with light streaming from curtains, and at least soft lighting in the background. Either way, they are both fine with me, but this is because, I calibrate them. Any HDTVs, be it plasmas or LCDs are "broken" in its default factory settings, until you calibrate them. Once calibration is complete, and in the environment the HDTV itself is being watched in, it does not make any difference whether it is a plasma or LCD, it is now displaying at its optimum/best.

Also, you cannot compare other people's settings to yours, since your watching environment is never the same as theirs. Even on similarly sized areas, the lighting can be different enough to warrant a complete recalibration.

My Kuro in LA is ISF-calibrated by an ISF-technician there, while my Z here is calibrated by my own hands using the Digital Video Essentials Blu-ray disc.

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Dec 11 2009, 11:43 AM
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post Dec 11 2009, 11:33 AM

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oops..

i thought most HD broadcasting signals definitely will be in 1080i/720p, due to the lack of bandwidth? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(Kyoyagami @ Dec 11 2009, 11:30 AM)
oy oy, ini siapa yang kena fire nih? tongue.gif
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Me.

But then again, I can never go back to the blue-biased Samsung, no matter how much it has improved. It is like once you've seen it, you cannot unsee it.

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String, he meant me lah. tongue.gif
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post Dec 11 2009, 11:36 AM

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Everyone here is overloaded with cash laugh.gif

Except me still using HD Ready TV sad.gif
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post Dec 11 2009, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Dec 11 2009, 11:33 AM)
My own opinion. The whole dark/bright and plasma/LCDs are mainly because of their color bias. Plasmas are biased towards warmer colors like red, amber or brighter hues. The LCDs tend to favor the colder color biases, like blue and cyan, which is why you see everywhere, at showooms, you tend to see CGI movies displayed on LCD TVs that tend to bring out the best of the panel quality.

I watch my movies and play my games in total darkness. And my TV is not a plasma here either, and it is more than adequate, it is exemplary. Sony Bravia Z here, while Pioneer Kuro Pro-111FD in my place in Newport, and while I watch the Bravia here in complete darkness, the gaming den's arrangement in LA is such that I cannot watch the Kuro in darkness at all (my better half hates complete darkness), with light streaming from curtains, and at least soft lighting in the background. Either way, they are both fine with me, but this is because, I calibrate them. Any HDTVs, be it plasmas or LCDs are "broken" in its default factory settings, until you calibrate them. Once calibration is complete, and in the environment the HDTV itself is being watched in, it does not make any difference whether it is a plasma or LCD, it is now displaying at its optimum/best.

Also, you cannot compare other people's settings to yours, since your watching environment is never the same as theirs. Even on similarly sized areas, the lighting can be different enough to warrant a complete recalibration.

My Kuro in LA is ISF-calibrated by an ISF-technician there, while my Z here is calibrated by my own hads using the Digital Video Essentials Blu-ray disc.
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is it pricey to call a ISF-technician to calibrate the TV for you? blush.gif

QUOTE(stringfellow @ Dec 11 2009, 11:34 AM)
Me.

But then again, I can never go back to the blue-biased Samsung, no matter how much it has improved. It is like once you've seen it, you cannot unsee it.
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my eyes are not so discerning.. but i just think that samsung has a really vivid colour unsure.gif
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post Dec 11 2009, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Dec 11 2009, 11:33 AM)
Any HDTVs, be it plasmas or LCDs are "broken" in its default factory settings, until you calibrate them. Once calibration is complete, and in the environment the HDTV itself is being watched in, it does not make any difference whether it is a plasma or LCD, it is not displaying at its optimum/best.

Also, you cannot compare other people's settings to yours, since your watching environment is never the same as theirs. Even on similarly sized areas, the lighting can be different enough to warrant a complete recalibration.

My Kuro in LA is ISF-calibrated by an ISF-technician there, while my Z here is calibrated by my own hads using the Digital Video Essentials Blu-ray disc.
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Quoted for TRUTH.

My 42" Philips FHD tv LOOKED CRAP 5 minutes after putting the cables in. I spent roughly 3 days tweaking till I got something that felt right. While I sometimes like to watch in darkness (1080p Band of Brothers looks damned good to me) most times the LCD is operating in a semi bright environment.

String, how much was the DVE BD?

I soooo want one sad.gif
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QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Dec 11 2009, 11:36 AM)
Everyone here is overloaded with cash laugh.gif

Except me still using HD Ready TV sad.gif
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what brand?
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Well, if he's firing on the Sony camp, I'm in that flock as well. Each and everyone of us has his/her personal preferences, the same case goes here. I cannot push to you that Sony is teh besteztss, and Samsung sucks, it is all up the eye of the beholder. And this poor old tired eyes has said its dues to the Samsung.
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I have a Sony and a Pensonic for SDTV.


Tak kena... tongue.gif But I like the Sony when its plugged on analog. The bass is nice. even though its Mono.
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QUOTE(Lord_Ashe @ Dec 11 2009, 11:38 AM)
Quoted for TRUTH.

My 42" Philips FHD tv LOOKED CRAP 5 minutes after putting the cables in. I spent roughly 3 days tweaking till I got something that felt right. While I sometimes like to watch in darkness (1080p Band of Brothers looks damned good to me) most times the LCD is operating in a semi bright environment.

String, how much was the DVE BD?

I soooo want one sad.gif
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finally another phillips user rclxm9.gif i thought phillips users almost "extinct" already..

off-topic: my dad used to be a phillips employee last time..


Added on December 11, 2009, 11:41 am
QUOTE(Kyoyagami @ Dec 11 2009, 11:40 AM)
I have a Sony and a Pensonic for SDTV.
Tak kena... tongue.gif But I like the Sony when its plugged on analog. The bass is nice. even though its Mono.
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pensonic, you mean our local brand?

you mean the sony TV's built-in speakers? flex.gif

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yeah. the legendary old speakers. Still works today. now that's impressive.
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Dec 11 2009, 11:38 AM)
Well, if he's firing on the Sony camp, I'm in that flock as well. Each and everyone of us has his/her personal preferences, the same case goes here. I cannot push to you that Sony is teh besteztss, and Samsung sucks, it is all up the eye of the beholder. And this poor old tired eyes has said its dues to the Samsung.
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QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Dec 11 2009, 11:50 AM)
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string is talking about me? blush.gif
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QUOTE(Lord_Ashe @ Dec 11 2009, 11:38 AM)
Quoted for TRUTH.

My 42" Philips FHD tv LOOKED CRAP 5 minutes after putting the cables in. I spent roughly 3 days tweaking till I got something that felt right. While I sometimes like to watch in darkness (1080p Band of Brothers looks damned good to me) most times the LCD is operating in a semi bright environment.

String, how much was the DVE BD?

I soooo want one sad.gif
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I want one too to calibrate my CRT flex.gif
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QUOTE(yellowpika @ Dec 11 2009, 11:40 AM)
finally another phillips user rclxm9.gif i thought phillips users almost "extinct" already..

off-topic: my dad used to be a phillips employee last time..


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pensonic, you mean our local brand?

you mean the sony TV's built-in speakers? flex.gif
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I LOVE philips.

Your dad is automatically cool in my book smile.gif

String still tak kasitahu how much DVE BD
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QUOTE(yellowpika @ Dec 11 2009, 11:37 AM)
is it pricey to call a ISF-technician to calibrate the TV for you? blush.gif
my eyes are not so discerning.. but i just think that samsung has a really vivid colour unsure.gif
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The ISF calibration service comes with the purchase, and for 1 year after the date of purchase, should I need to recalibrate it if I move it into a different environment. Otherwise the costs goes about from this quote from ISF forum:-

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Pricing is determined independently by each calibrator. Because of this, there will be pricing variations, based on the specific services included in a calibrator's service offering for different HDTV types, the experience of the calibrator, as well as variations based on geographic location.

But in order to give you some general idea about pricing in the US, calibration of plasma and LCD flat panels will be around U$275 for a single input or memory, with additional inputs/memories charged at U$100-125 each. Some calibrators provide a package price for flat panels displays that will cover calibration of all required inputs/memories at around U$400.

For rear-projection DLP-, LCD- or LCoS-based HDTVs, pricing is generally similar to flat panels.

Digital front-projection calibration pricing generally begins at a base level around U$400, and will increase with the number of inputs/memories requiring calibration.

CRT direct-view pricing will generally be in the same ballpark as digital flat panels.

CRT rear-projection calibration cost is around U$275-300, increasing by U$100 to U$125 per input/memory. Additional fees may be levied for the geometry and convergence work that is required to make these three-gun CRT sets look their best. Again, it's difficult to generalize, but the all-in cost of calibration for a CRT rear-projection TV, for two inputs/memories, will range from U$400 to $500.

Pricing for CRT front projectors is, by far, the most variable, as these devices tend to require a much greater level of expertise and specialization. As a result, prices can vary depending on the scope of work required and the system configuration, such as the number of scan rates, the number of video sources, and the additional adjustments that might be required where a video processor or scaler is present, etc.

Travel is another consideration. Many calibrators define a standard geographic service area where travel is included as part of the base fee. However, for jobs where travel outside the defined service area is required, additional fees may be required to cover the additional time and cost involved in traveling.


QUOTE(Lord_Ashe @ Dec 11 2009, 11:38 AM)
Quoted for TRUTH.

My 42" Philips FHD tv LOOKED CRAP 5 minutes after putting the cables in. I spent roughly 3 days tweaking till I got something that felt right. While I sometimes like to watch in darkness (1080p Band of Brothers looks damned good to me) most times the LCD is operating in a semi bright environment.

String, how much was the DVE BD?

I soooo want one sad.gif
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DVE BD costs USD16 minus shipping. You can get it from Amazon.

One aspect that alot of people fail also to recognize is the player itself. There are benchmarking softwares used to check if your HD players are up to the task of playing back HD content satisfactory, if not exemplary. Calibrator software carried by ISF calibrators can do that, but if you are looking for a consumer-minded application, look for the "HD HQV Benchmark" BD from Silicon Optix. The disc will be able to separate the "men" from the "boys" in terms of quality HD playback and the players that play these contents back, which is why discerning videophiles still swear off entry-level players and go for those with Faroudja DCDi or Silicon Optix Reon-VX HQV video processors available in select players only. Which is the reason why I still keep my Toshiba HD-XA2 as my chosen upscaling DVD player because of its excellent Reon VX processor doing the brunt of the work for you. I went one-level better with my setup in LA with the Denon DVD-A1UDCI as my video upscaling player as well as the BD player, it incorporates the Silicon Optic Realta HQV which is one generation better than the Reon-VX previously mentioned.

All those jargons and terms and model numbers would mean jack shit if your eyes are not cursed as mine. I've seen what these can do, and I can't go back to where I was before I saw what these beasts can do. Some are not discerning while others may not even see any difference. In that case, you in for much savings as you can be completely happy with a PS3 and any Full-HD HDTVs you can opt for. I am, however, cursed with "these eyes" than craves more than it should. sad.gif


Added on December 11, 2009, 12:04 pm
QUOTE(yellowpika @ Dec 11 2009, 11:51 AM)
string is talking about me? blush.gif
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